Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #4

by Kashathediva Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:01 pm

grace8136 wrote:
2boys3girls wrote:I agree, the tweets do lack class. I wasn't debating that at all. I don't know how anyone got that idea from my post.

I understood what you meant. Someone said that on another thread too. No worries.

At this point in filming, I still think Nick was ahead with Andi. Their relationship was farther along and on more levels. I can't help but feel like Nick is who she should be with, but a Josh "trophy husband" type is what she feels is sort of expected of her from her family, if that makes any sense. It's unspoken, but she wants to make her parents proud, happy, etc. When they meet Josh their approval will be instant.

I don't want you to think I am arguing with you, Grace. Smiley

What I don't agree with is her father should not expect anything more from MeandI's future spouse than love and respect for his daughter, to honor her and try to make her happy. MeandI shouldn't have to feel as if she is bringing a trophy home for dad. I would think her parents would be happy with any of the final 4 guys. Smiley

by SueSt Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:02 pm

emusha wrote:
nd4reality wrote:Perhaps there is more to come in the Nick saga in future episodes that we don't yet know about.
.

new sneak peak?

p.s

nick on twitter: Nicholas Viall @viallnicholas28 Apparently sometimes my humor is dryer than a desert

josh on twitter: Josh Murray ‏@jmurbulldog 'Lions do not lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.'

OMG - if this doesn't showcase their key differences, I don't know what will.
One is self-deprecating, charming and funny - totally attractive
The other egotistical, holier than thou and over-confident - unattractive

by Beagle Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:04 pm

nd4reality wrote:Perhaps there is more to come in the Nick saga in future episodes that we don't yet know about.
.

You just know the FDs are not going to be smooth sailing. :shocked!:

by SueSt Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:04 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
grace8136 wrote:
2boys3girls wrote:I agree, the tweets do lack class. I wasn't debating that at all. I don't know how anyone got that idea from my post.

I understood what you meant. Someone said that on another thread too. No worries.

At this point in filming, I still think Nick was ahead with Andi. Their relationship was farther along and on more levels. I can't help but feel like Nick is who she should be with, but a Josh "trophy husband" type is what she feels is sort of expected of her from her family, if that makes any sense. It's unspoken, but she wants to make her parents proud, happy, etc. When they meet Josh their approval will be instant.
I don't want you to think I am arguing with you, Grace.
What I don't agree with is her father should not expect anything more from MeandI's future spouse than love and respect for his daughter, to honor her and try to make her happy. MeandI shouldn't have to feel as if she is bringing a trophy home for dad. I would think her parents would be happy with any of the final 4 guys.

Amen to that Kasha

by stuckinsc Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:07 pm

SueSt wrote:
emusha wrote:
nd4reality wrote:Perhaps there is more to come in the Nick saga in future episodes that we don't yet know about.
.

new sneak peak?

p.s

nick on twitter: Nicholas Viall @viallnicholas28 Apparently sometimes my humor is dryer than a desert

josh on twitter: Josh Murray ‏@jmurbulldog 'Lions do not lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.'
OMG - if this doesn't showcase their key differences, I don't know what will.
One is self-deprecating, charming and funny - totally attractive
The other egotistical, holier than thou and over-confident - unattractive

Awe Sue, I love them both. They are very different men with very different strengths and weaknesses. I don't think either is bad. I understand others do, but I really like all of the F6, I really liked Marquel and Patrick and even shit stirrer JJ. Cody and Andrew weren't my cup of tea.

Andi got some great guys, wish they had a better girl to try to win over.

by nutty1 Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:08 pm

SueSt wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:
grace8136 wrote:

I understood what you meant. Someone said that on another thread too. No worries.

At this point in filming, I still think Nick was ahead with Andi. Their relationship was farther along and on more levels. I can't help but feel like Nick is who she should be with, but a Josh "trophy husband" type is what she feels is sort of expected of her from her family, if that makes any sense. It's unspoken, but she wants to make her parents proud, happy, etc. When they meet Josh their approval will be instant.
I don't want you to think I am arguing with you, Grace.
What I don't agree with is her father should not expect anything more from MeandI's future spouse than love and respect for his daughter, to honor her and try to make her happy. MeandI shouldn't have to feel as if she is bringing a trophy home for dad. I would think her parents would be happy with any of the final 4 guys.
Amen to that Kasha

Andi shouldn't have to feel that way, but does she???

by Alanna Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:11 pm

SueSt wrote:
emusha wrote:
nd4reality wrote:Perhaps there is more to come in the Nick saga in future episodes that we don't yet know about.
.

new sneak peak?

p.s

nick on twitter: Nicholas Viall @viallnicholas28 Apparently sometimes my humor is dryer than a desert

josh on twitter: Josh Murray ‏@jmurbulldog 'Lions do not lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.'
OMG - if this doesn't showcase their key differences, I don't know what will.
One is self-deprecating, charming and funny - totally attractive
The other egotistical, holier than thou and over-confident - unattractive

I don't agree with the negative connotations but I agree with your overall thought. Nick is self-deprecating and sarcastic and funny, Josh is serious and strong and protective. And I think Andi, from everything she has ever shared, definitely wants the latter. I think if things turned out differently and everyone wasn't fighting and subtweeting each other ( Rolling Eyes

), Andi and Nick really could have been great friends, but Josh is the SO she needs and wants.

by sbolduc Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:11 pm

stuckinsc wrote:
SueSt wrote:
emusha wrote:

new sneak peak?

p.s

nick on twitter: Nicholas Viall @viallnicholas28 Apparently sometimes my humor is dryer than a desert

josh on twitter: Josh Murray ‏@jmurbulldog 'Lions do not lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.'
OMG - if this doesn't showcase their key differences, I don't know what will.
One is self-deprecating, charming and funny - totally attractive
The other egotistical, holier than thou and over-confident - unattractive

Awe Sue, I love them both. They are very different men with very different strengths and weaknesses. I don't think either is bad. I understand others do, but I really like all of the F6, I really liked Marquel and Patrick and even shit stirrer JJ. Cody and Andrew weren't my cup of tea.

Andi got some great guys, wish they had a better girl to try to win over.

Agreed neither is bad, they are just completely different people, it is all about personal preference.

by Kashathediva Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:12 pm

SueSt wrote:
emusha wrote:
nd4reality wrote:Perhaps there is more to come in the Nick saga in future episodes that we don't yet know about.
.

new sneak peak?

p.s

nick on twitter: Nicholas Viall @viallnicholas28 Apparently sometimes my humor is dryer than a desert

josh on twitter: Josh Murray ‏@jmurbulldog 'Lions do not lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.'
OMG - if this doesn't showcase their key differences, I don't know what will.
One is self-deprecating, charming and funny - totally attractive
The other egotistical, holier than thou and over-confident - unattractive

Summed up well.

by pavalygurl Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:22 pm

nutty1 wrote:I saw Josh's tweet….wonder what it meant.

I think they are snarking (is that a word?) each other and not really being mad.

by Beagle Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:26 pm

pavalygurl wrote:
nutty1 wrote:I saw Josh's tweet….wonder what it meant.

I think they are snarking (is that a word?) each other and not really being mad.

by Retiredswimmom Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:28 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
grace8136 wrote:
2boys3girls wrote:I agree, the tweets do lack class. I wasn't debating that at all. I don't know how anyone got that idea from my post.

I understood what you meant. Someone said that on another thread too. No worries.

At this point in filming, I still think Nick was ahead with Andi. Their relationship was farther along and on more levels. I can't help but feel like Nick is who she should be with, but a Josh "trophy husband" type is what she feels is sort of expected of her from her family, if that makes any sense. It's unspoken, but she wants to make her parents proud, happy, etc. When they meet Josh their approval will be instant.
I don't want you to think I am arguing with you, Grace.
What I don't agree with is her father should not expect anything more from MeandI's future spouse than love and respect for his daughter, to honor her and try to make her happy. MeandI shouldn't have to feel as if she is bringing a trophy home for dad. I would think her parents would be happy with any of the final 4 guys.

Kasha,
Knowing what side of the fence you're on, I do respect you for saying that. I think her father just wants her to be happy like we do our own kids.

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