Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not? part 2

pavalygurl wrote:

Rosepetal wrote:RS revised some of his spoiler today. Josh gets GDR tonight and Andi sends Chris home as F-3 before the overnight portion of the FD.

RS is really doubling down on his spoilers.  Either he has had incredible luck in receiving all this information or he's been foiled.  I don't honestly "know" which it is, but I still have a hard time with all the coincidences/stars aligning in his favor.

Andi says in a voiceover "I love Brussels" and was quoted somewhere (sorry, I can't remember the interview) as saying Brussels was her favorite place on the journey.  It will be interesting at least.   

Me too Pav.

Also - she both said I love Brussels in VO for the episode as well as in an interview post-filming. Her reason given was that she had never been there.
Pretty sure she had never been to France or Italy either   .

JBF wrote:Gotta hand it to RS. He knows everything. Even knew about Zak's fight with Des in the fantasy suite, after eliminating Drew at F4.

All joking aside, I do see the possibility of somebody leaving and coming back after she dumps others unexpectedly.

Oh my JBF is the best

Wait, I thought it was determined from the preview that Chris gets the rose on the lie detector GD tonight. That is more aligned with the JJ/Brian/Chris drama we were shown. Seemed like JJ said he didn't understand why Brian was congratulating Chris. Then Brian defended himself, and Chris chimed in to say JJ was being negative. Marcus and Josh are shown sitting there saying nothing---which to me means that they are staying out of something that they are not involved in (ie Josh did not get the rose). I know the actual rose did not get shown in the preview, but to me, this scenario makes the most sense. I'm not saying that it isn't poosible for Josh to have gotten the rose 9since it was never seen in the previews), but Andi likes to give those roses out as a symbol of her encouragement. If Chris goes to F3, he goes far, and it makes sense that she would have rewarded him for coming forward and telling her he is the secret admirer and she would in turn want to encourage him to continue opening up to her. Josh doesn't need any further encouragement from her. In his mind, he's already married to her. I don't believe this new spoiler from RS is true. I don't believe Josh will get the rose tonight. I think RS is hedging his bets, and somehow he will spin it that he was right. RS typically is so jealous and horrible to the male contestants on this show, but he seems to be having a love affair with Josh. makes me think it is "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" and his kindness is a repayment for the spoilers that Josh's family have given him about the ending of the show. Why else would RS be kind towards Josh. Josh is a good looking, successful, confident male---just the sort of guy that RS loves to knock down a couple of pegs. To me, that is the fishiest part of all this and points to Josh's family as being the source of RS's info. JMHO.

pavalygurl wrote:

Rosepetal wrote:RS revised some of his spoiler today. Josh gets GDR tonight and Andi sends Chris home as F-3 before the overnight portion of the FD.

RS is really doubling down on his spoilers.  Either he has had incredible luck in receiving all this information or he's been foiled.  I don't honestly "know" which it is, but I still have a hard time with all the coincidences/stars aligning in his favor.

Andi says in a voiceover "I love Brussels" and was quoted somewhere (sorry, I can't remember the interview) as saying Brussels was her favorite place on the journey.  It will be interesting at least.   

Yes it certainly appears that someone is feeding him information. Just like they did during Des' season maybe?   :con1: 

Didn't RS love Sean?

I Ithought he "loved" Sean due to the Jeremy/Dallas connection?

pander3575 wrote:Didn't RS love Sean?

Yeah RS snarked on him some but overall he has a pretty positive opinion of Sean and still does to this day.

MiaHawk wrote:Wait, I thought it was determined from the preview that Chris gets the rose on the lie detector GD tonight.  That is more aligned with the JJ/Brian/Chris drama we were shown.  Seemed like JJ said he didn't understand why Brian was congratulating Chris.  Then Brian defended himself, and Chris chimed in to say JJ was being negative.  Marcus and Josh are shown sitting there saying nothing---which to me means that they are staying out of something that they are not involved in (ie Josh did not get the rose).  I know the actual rose did not get shown in the preview, but to me, this scenario makes the most sense.  I'm not saying that it isn't poosible for Josh to have gotten the rose 9since it was never seen in the previews), but Andi likes to give those roses out as a symbol of her encouragement.  If Chris goes to F3, he goes far, and it makes sense that she would have rewarded him for coming forward and telling her he is the secret admirer and she would in turn want to encourage him to continue opening up to her.  Josh doesn't need any further encouragement from her.  In his mind, he's already married to her.  I don't believe this new spoiler from RS is true.  I don't believe Josh will get the rose tonight.  I think RS is hedging his bets, and somehow he will spin it that he was right.  RS typically is so jealous and horrible to the male contestants on this show, but he seems to be having a love affair with Josh.  makes me think it is "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" and his kindness is a repayment for the spoilers that Josh's family have given him about the ending of the show.  Why else would RS be kind towards Josh.  Josh is a good looking, successful, confident male---just the sort of guy that RS loves to knock down a couple of pegs.  To me, that is the fishiest part of all this and points to Josh's family as being the source of RS's info. JMHO.

I hear MIA! 

bilolo wrote:

JBF wrote:Gotta hand it to RS. He knows everything. Even knew about Zak's fight with Des in the fantasy suite, after eliminating Drew at F4.

All joking aside, I do see the possibility of somebody leaving and coming back after she dumps others unexpectedly.

Oh my JBF is the best

nd4reality wrote:

We have to draw the line at some point. There is no way he can get that kind of information without the "help" of production. Those fantasy dates are better monitored than all of the earlier ones. He certainly got plenty of "help" during Des' season.

Information up to hometowns... OK.

Information gathered post-show about Andi caught kissing Josh in K-Mart's Doritos aisle... OK. Remember when Ashley and JP were photographed leaving the same building during her season and only the Canadian edition of Entertainment Tonight reported it?

His batting average with Bachelor, not Bachelorette, is pretty good. Just Brad's season was a bomb for him there. Part of the reason may be because he does more actual sleuthing in November and December (when the holidays may prompt an easing off in regards to production's "hold"). Even when he thinks he knows the end result a few days after FRC and tentatively squeals his spoiler early online, he will still doublecheck himself further.

Unfortunately, he is not at his best in the month of May, during that short two week period between FRC and episode #1's broadcast... and Mike Fleiss knows it. They also know how much more gullible he is to a "set pattern". If there is some sort of twist this season, they can easily plant "evidence" that will convince him this season is the same as others. (For example, we are not even sure if any contestants leave to attend Eric's funeral and come back, which is something Ron... leaving for his friend's death... didn't do but it might be allowed if she wants that guy back.)

Right now, there are several threads on the motherboard (abc.com) discussing Steve Boy's spoilers, even using the initial "RS" in a couple posts. At least two posts I have read say "video leak with Nick kind of sealed it for me".  Another reads "This season is done and over with already. Everyone knows who she will pick." You can find them if you search the right threads.

No effort is made to delete them as in past seasons that had "RS" correct. Why?

One possible reason: they may not "care" anymore.

Another: they do... and are OK because "RS" is wrong.

You can view this either way you want. Of course, Josh fans will view it the first way. Nothing wrong with that. I think they do make a... humorous... couple myself.

One thread labeled "MAJOR SPOILER, if true. Proceed with caution and skepticsm" is all about Chris being the next bachelor thanks to a "popular source". It has been up for two days. Maybe the monitors will delete it later today? They are mighty slow doing so. You can keep checking if it is still there, if you are curious.

On the other hand, another thread suggesting she is moving from Atlanta was deleted several weeks ago... very hastily in fact... until a second thread was started more recently that references the online article claiming she is moving to Hollywood to start an acting career. Of course, you can read all of the sarcastic comments on THAT one.

I don't understand the "psychology" of ABC and Fleiss or why they do certain things... nor will I ever. However, I do recall being firmly convinced that Chris Lambton would wind up with Ali until... a thread about Roberto moving to California suddenly vanished at abc.com and I questioned myself "why?"

These seasons are real puzzle pieces. Sometimes Fleiss isn't terribly concerned if his show is spoiled since he knows it will get the ratings he wants or he isn't that "gooey" about the lead. Other times, he hires his own version of Price Waterhouse Coopers keeping the end result a secret. Again, this would be especially true if there is a twist in the end... even potentially an alternative one.

We didn't actually see Chris with a rose, did we? Do you think we just interpreted it that way because we thought Chris got a rose?

Josh was sitting next to Brian. So I think it was more likely JJ not wanting to congratulate Josh and Chris saying how that's sour grapes or whatever. Chris kept on referring to "him" and pointing over in the direction by Brian and Josh. My two cents.

Sprite wrote:

1funnyfish wrote:

Sarah_XV wrote:Josh getting the GDR tonight makes me think Chris will get the second 1on1 in Belgium.

I don't know about that, since RS said that Andi eliminates Chris before the overnight, probably b/c she has a stronger connection w/ Nick and Josh. They both probably got two dates.

I don't recall RS saying that Chris is eliminated before the overnight...just that he is F3 and eliminated after the FD. Where did you see this?

And I thought it was Chris that got the GDR tonight.....