Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 8 - HTDs - Jul 07/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

by pander3575 Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:56 am

It's funny but I didn't get the feel it was a Meandi date. She was concerned it wasn't all about Josh and what he was going through instead of all about Aaron. I'm sure this was an exciting time for their family with Aaron and I do believe Josh. I'd love to see with all this dates what's on the cutting room floor.

by stuckinsc Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:56 am

nd4reality wrote:
grace8136 wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:

for her to question her time with his family IMO is so selfish..obviously it's a concern to her?

I don't think it would enter most people's head. It's a fun, exciting time in his family and that's as far as most would see it. Is it actually a burden to attend football games in the VIP section?

She is MeAndi after all. Her self-absorption shone through completely on that date. ugh.

It jus t does not seem likeJosh as F1 now I just don't see that an edit with is so clearly just centered around the sports that their family is so knee deep in is something that Andi can even comprehend.

Seems more and more that instead the guy who plotted and schemed his way to win possibly did- though it could be argued that he really won at the end of it. She is MeAndi after all.

Can't you also see the story for Josh as the bachelor? He has given his all for his family and now Aaron is doing great, Stephanie is greaduating and doing grad school, so Josh can find the one who doesn't need him to cut the apron string but rather to tie herself in.

Plus football, I want football.

Heck, after tonight, I would love a bachelor with Chris, if we can get it at the farm, not the mansion. See if the girls can really be part of his life. LA and all that crap to start with will not show that.

As Chris's interview said, lake house/hunting sometimes does not country make!

by happygolucky Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:57 am

When do the other threads open for posting comments again?

by cindebugg Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:57 am

JBF wrote:
Maggenzm wrote:
JBF wrote:

The plane stunt melted her heart.
He is the Epitome of a Man
When sitting on his lap, everything is massive. (No, I won't go there)
Can become a DA in Cedar Rapids
Says she will be very happy having his sisters as MY sisters
His mother Linda gives her the "experience" that NOBODY else really can
I saw Chris for who he was and SAW A LIFE WITH HIM
She is on Cloud 9... a first for a Bachelorette since Trista on her FRC
Repeat of her "my head is spinning" voice-over in the promos

Hope Josh can hit one out of the ball park post-Iowa.

JBF, for the first time, I think you might be under something. Chris and his family were the bom!!. Go farmer!! He has surpassed Nick.

Under the tractor I guess... stuck in the manure. Ha ha!

I feel they gave us The Reasons She SHOULD Choose Chris. Whether she does or not can still be debated.

His hometown didn't seem like an advertisement for Next Bachelor to me. No "closure" discussion of his college era DUI that the folks on the abc.com messageboard will not stop talking about. All Of America can't accept him without his discussing it, much as Marcus discussed his own hardships.

Worse... Andi wouldn't stop talking future talk with him, another BAD sign for a future Bachelor. If he made the lead, SHE might "boomerang" like Deanna did on Jason's show... and Chris Bukowski on her show.

Nick's hometown felt like it is a set up for All Of America to do a 180 turnaround with him. Mom gave him the pep talk that... yeah... he may get his heart broken. Of course, Ilene gave JP Rosenbaum a similar talk on Ashley's season, but that was resolved when Ilene talked to Ashley. This time the vibe was very different. Maria, the one sister, admitted to Andi that Nick is in an "inflated situation"... another way of saying he's fallen into The Bubble. I think everybody will be sobbing for Nick come finale time. Maybe not enough to be Bachelor like Josh or Marcus. After all, he was a bit of a naughty Teddy Bear earlier... even if I have enjoyed Every Freakin' Minute He Is On Screen. (Nick, I love yah, buddy! You are one of my all time favorite contestants and have provided me endless memorable lines I will forever cherish on this silly TV show.)

Josh's hometown was fun during the baseball part. Alas... JJ cursed him when they talked about Brian in an earlier abc.com "extra". He suggested that Andi would dump Brian if he was too "stuck on" basketball. The camera was focused on Josh when JJ spoke. Unfortunately, baseball and football was emphasized a bit too much on Josh's hometown.

Now... that may not necessarily mean Josh can't be F1. *cough cough*... (Hey! I am trying my best to be As Fair As Possible... *cough cough*) Obviously the editors will really need to show us Andi getting over that obstacle during fantasy date.

Sister Stephanie was very realistic with Andi, saying they may fight as a couple. Now... there are two ways of viewing that conversation. All couples fight, we know. Couples who fight together stay together a.k.a. Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf? Yet why would they include that conversation when we haven't seen them fight before? Does something happen between them in the fantasy date?

Marcus left saying to Andi "I saw a future with you"

Andi said on screen that she saw a future with... Chris. Apparently he was the only one receiving that line this episode. So... we shall see what happens.

In any case, y'awl can send me a screencap of the Venice Hog's Head when Chris gets dumped. I'm sure my PM messages will be full since I am already the naughty one who DARED to suggest the Number 5 Horse had a chance despite walking sideways... LOL!

You must have missed the lie detector group date.

by Piper61 Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:00 am

^^^Right, the one after which Andi had a complete meltdown. giggling

by oliviafish Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:01 am

Is the lead and their final 1 allowed to have any sorts of interaction on SM? Just find it odd that if Nick or Chris were F1 they would be re tweeting and favoriting Andi's tweets.

by Aunties_Love Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:03 am

Tiggerlgh wrote:I don't think there was a clear frontrunner even to Andy I think Nick and Josh were pretty even. I am still confused as to who the F1 is, I am 51% Josh, 49% Nick right now based on the spoiled F2's. I don't think who got what date matters much anymore and to me it makes sense more than anyone that Josh got the baseball date.

What if, Chris is playing more of a role and may actually be in the F2 despite you know who saying otherwise??

by Alanna Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:04 am

pander3575 wrote:It's funny but I didn't get the feel it was a Meandi date. She was concerned it wasn't all about Josh and what he was going through instead of all about Aaron. I'm sure this was an exciting time for their family with Aaron and I do believe Josh. I'd love to see with all this dates what's on the cutting room floor.

That's actually a good point too, she did seen protective of Josh and not wanting him to be forgotten. His mom talked about how he's put himself last so maybe she was also picking up on what she perceived to be unfair family dynamics. I did laugh when everyone was calming her down that it's okay and she will be his first priority laugh out loud

by Tiggerlgh Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:04 am

oliviafish wrote:Is the lead and their final 1 allowed to have any sorts of interaction on SM? Just find it odd that if Nick or Chris were F1 they would be re tweeting and favoriting Andi's tweets.

I think all SM rules have changed the past few years as SM grows/changes. I don't see that as a clue either way.

by jcrbil Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:04 am

Heck, Hy and the entire Dorfman clan would probably go with them.... how many tickets do you think Aaron can get?

Y'all maybe didn't realize that when Chris was "driving" the tractor, his hands weren't on the wheel.... and though Andi's hands were, she wasn't "driving" either. Those things are basically operated by that little screen that Chris kept fiddling with- GPS. My cousin and his son drive those- the hired hands used to laugh at the son because he couldn't plow a straight row- but he can now that GPS operates it.

And there are plenty of things to do for a lawyer in agriculture. Andi might have to give up prosecuting, but contracts, real estate, etc provide a constant stream of business for a lawyer.

Still, I don't think it's Chris who's f1.... I think Josh's htd probably went better than we give it credit for- and I agree that Andi didn't leave Tampa early in spite of the edited shortness of the date. We didn't see her leave. And I think the baseball portion of the DR date was planned well in advance for Josh no matter where he finishes. The part of the HTD that I found especially interesting was the acknowledgement by mama Murray that Josh had put his siblings first (and who knows who else- it really implied even more than that). That's not the Josh we'd been introduced to- and that DR baseball date will fit into an altruistic side. So it might not be the over the top romance, but might show some depth that we haven't seen yet. And frankly, I don't think Josh and Andi need the helicopter and island to stoke their chemistry- if he is expected to be in the final 2, they possibly feel there's still time for romance.

by stuckinsc Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:05 am

Aunties_Love wrote:
Tiggerlgh wrote:I don't think there was a clear frontrunner even to Andy I think Nick and Josh were pretty even. I am still confused as to who the F1 is, I am 51% Josh, 49% Nick right now based on the spoiled F2's. I don't think who got what date matters much anymore and to me it makes sense more than anyone that Josh got the baseball date.
What if, Chris is playing more of a role and may actually be in the F2 despite you know who saying otherwise??

I am not eliminating anyone at this point, but I still want Tigger to go to Arlington next Monday just in case. This man is too good to let get away and that family was awesome.

by Tiggerlgh Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:07 am

Aunties_Love wrote:
Tiggerlgh wrote:I don't think there was a clear frontrunner even to Andy I think Nick and Josh were pretty even. I am still confused as to who the F1 is, I am 51% Josh, 49% Nick right now based on the spoiled F2's. I don't think who got what date matters much anymore and to me it makes sense more than anyone that Josh got the baseball date.
What if, Chris is playing more of a role and may actually be in the F2 despite you know who saying otherwise??

It's possible, I am just not seeing it, but I am not ruling anything out at this point. I love Chris but I see her more torn between Josh and Nick. I don't see Andy moving to Iowa.

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