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Post by pander3575 Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:48

stuckinsc wrote:
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docnash14 wrote:

Dylan did make a comment that Josh had just had a 1-1 a week and a half ago but I agree that he didn't seem to be directing any anger toward Josh about it.

I don't think anyone was upset with another guy for things that the producers assign to them, such as dates; they were upset with Nick for grabbing extra time than what he was given by producers, especially because he already had more assigned time than the rest of them without it.  Speaking of which, did they even know about him sneaking into her hotel room?  And actually, their major gripe with him was his cocky and dismissive (towards the rest of them) attitude.  I think they have an expectation that if you're "winning", you should show some graciousness about it, which he apparently is not doing.  But of course, the whole thing was no doubt edited to look much worse than it really was.

Just a thought here, but Nick talked about Andi and their connection and how he felt about her.  Josh might not have at all, so he wasn't seen as the real threat that he was?  Which also leads me to speculate (and this is me who loves Josh and the Murrays) that maybe MeAndi had some cause to be concerned that Josh wasn't into her and might break her heart.  If the other guys weren't jealous of the man that she was so upset over and practically bubbling about when he finally gave her falling in love, then they might not have had a clue.  

So it could be Nick was cocky, but on the other hand was Josh deceptive to not talk about his awesome connection with Andi?  Suspect 
In the video of Nick he said Josh didn't talk about it which I think was a very smart, classy way to act. I don't consider Josh being deceptive with the guys.
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Post by atem Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:49

FLChica wrote:
nutty1 wrote:Here is a classy guy!!!!

Loved the experience, but what I miss most of all were the relationships I built with the guys that will live forever. One in particular is my brother @nick_viall28. One of the most genuine guys I've ever met. Light always shines brotha, don't change.  #rideformyboys #realrecognizereal #knowthembeforeujudgethem

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Should we believe Marquel since he actually lived with these guys or should we just stick with what we "know" from watching the show?  That's a tough one...

Sure, but people are going to have their own opinions on what they know.
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Post by ironcat Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:50

stuckinsc wrote:
ironcat wrote:
docnash14 wrote:

Dylan did make a comment that Josh had just had a 1-1 a week and a half ago but I agree that he didn't seem to be directing any anger toward Josh about it.

I don't think anyone was upset with another guy for things that the producers assign to them, such as dates; they were upset with Nick for grabbing extra time than what he was given by producers, especially because he already had more assigned time than the rest of them without it.  Speaking of which, did they even know about him sneaking into her hotel room?  And actually, their major gripe with him was his cocky and dismissive (towards the rest of them) attitude.  I think they have an expectation that if you're "winning", you should show some graciousness about it, which he apparently is not doing.  But of course, the whole thing was no doubt edited to look much worse than it really was.

Just a thought here, but Nick talked about Andi and their connection and how he felt about her.  Josh might not have at all, so he wasn't seen as the real threat that he was?  Which also leads me to speculate (and this is me who loves Josh and the Murrays) that maybe MeAndi had some cause to be concerned that Josh wasn't into her and might break her heart.  If the other guys weren't jealous of the man that she was so upset over and practically bubbling about when he finally gave her falling in love, then they might not have had a clue.  

So it could be Nick was cocky, but on the other hand was Josh deceptive to not talk about his awesome connection with Andi?  Suspect 

Yeah, I suspect Josh didn't talk or brag much about what went on between him and Andi, but I don't see that as a negative, or being deceptive. Rubbing the other guys' noses in how much better your connection is with her than theirs is probably viewed as a greater offense IMO.

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Post by Guest Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:52

It's like laughing in their faces.

Y'all speak the truth. Real gentlemen don't kiss and tell.

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Post by Kashathediva Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:53

Ok--so I am going to put my head on the chopping block. 
With all this Marcus/Josh love on twitter tonight and with them both having been in Cancun, it makes me think they met up while they were both in Cancun.
If so this opens up lots questions. How did they meet up? Was Josh on BIP? If so, did TPTB allow the rest of the cast with their loose lips to realize who the final couple is? Or was Josh on BIP and it was not a safe house visit and MeandI was not there at all.  And if that is the case why would Josh be on BIP if he was part of the final couple?  Praying 
Something to think about.



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Post by stuckinsc Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:54

ironcat wrote:
Yeah, I suspect Josh didn't talk or brag much about what went on between him and Andi, but I don't see that as a negative, or being deceptive.  Rubbing the other guys' noses in how much better your connection is with her than theirs is probably viewed as a greater offense IMO.

I like Josh, but I think there is a little bit of both. Nick was honest about what he felt and didn't hide it from the guys. I am okay with Josh keeping to himself. But had the other boys known how connected Josh and Andi were, would they have been so okay with his second 1:1 date?

I think Nick may have talked too much. I have that problem myself. I have been told many times that I don't have to say everything I think or feel. Probably why I like boards like this, because I can.

Josh is more hesitant to share, that is okay too, but then it kind of gave the other guys a false sense of security with him.
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Post by FLChica Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:56

Josh can barely articulate his feelings for MeAndi to MeAndi.  Hugesmile  To think he would be able or willing to do so with the other contestants is a bit much.  Has nothing to do with being a gentleman...


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Post by stuckinsc Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:56

Kashathediva wrote:Ok--so I am going to put my head on the chopping block. 
With all this Marcus/Josh love on twitter tonight and with them both having been in Cancun, it makes me think they met up while they were both in Cancun.
If so this opens up lots questions. How did they meet up? Was Josh on BIP? If so, did TPTB allow the rest of the cast with their loose lips to realize who the final couple is? Or was Josh on BIP and it was not a safe house visit and MeandI was not there at all.  And if that is the case why would Josh be on BIP if he was part of the final couple?  Praying 
Something to think about.

I would love a big KABOOM this season, so both Josh and Marcus on BiP would make me happy.
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Post by Brill Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:57

Kashathediva wrote:Ok--so I am going to put my head on the chopping block. 
With all this Marcus/Josh love on twitter tonight and with them both having been in Cancun, it makes me think they met up while they were both in Cancun.
If so this opens up lots questions. How did they meet up? Was Josh on BIP? If so, did TPTB allow the rest of the cast with their loose lips to realize who the final couple is? Or was Josh on BIP and it was not a safe house visit and MeandI was not there at all.  And if that is the case why would Josh be on BIP if he was part of the final couple?  Praying 
Something to think about.

It sure does make me wonder Kasha????? :yes: 


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Post by stuckinsc Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:59

FLChica wrote:Josh can barely articulate his feelings for MeAndi to MeAndi.  Hugesmile  To think we would be able or willing to do so with the other contestants is a bit much.  Has nothing to do with being a gentleman...

To me he actually seems kind of stoic talking about his own feelings, but has no problem being effusive in his love for his friends and family. I don't have a problem with Josh.

Just with everyone ragging on Nick, I wanted to present the other side of the coin.

Nick's overt actions and confidence made Andi happy. She was gaga over Josh, but she was giddy over Nick too. I don't think until she finally pulled the falling in love out of Josh tonight that she had actually made it to gaga. She was not going to let herself fall for the guy who didn't love her back, no way, no how!
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Post by docnash14 Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:59

Erin_Elizabeth wrote:It's like laughing in their faces.

Y'all speak the truth. Real gentlemen don't kiss and tell.

Exactly and this is especially true in the south. With Josh keeping mum about his own experiences with Andi, it makes sense that Nick would have been blindsided at the FRC because he believed with 100% certainty that he was closest to Andi and would end up with her. It also makes sense then that he would direct his anger toward Josh.

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Post by Kashathediva Tue 1 Jul 2014 - 0:59

Brill wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:Ok--so I am going to put my head on the chopping block. 
With all this Marcus/Josh love on twitter tonight and with them both having been in Cancun, it makes me think they met up while they were both in Cancun.
If so this opens up lots questions. How did they meet up? Was Josh on BIP? If so, did TPTB allow the rest of the cast with their loose lips to realize who the final couple is? Or was Josh on BIP and it was not a safe house visit and MeandI was not there at all.  And if that is the case why would Josh be on BIP if he was part of the final couple?  Praying 
Something to think about.

It sure does make me wonder Kasha????? :yes: 
And then we don't get any freakin scs to tell us anything we don't already have an idea about concerning the stupid HTD's.



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