Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 7 - Jun 30/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

stuckinsc wrote:

docnash14 wrote:

Alanna wrote:
It means Andi's next fear is that Josh will love and pay more attention to his family than her. Cutting the cord refers to the umbilical cord.

Yep!  I actually am developing a lot of compassion for Andi as I find her so in need of reassurance and validation.  That being said, I can't say that I disagree with the dad in this tweet:

Jennifer Whitaker ‏@jiggy_whit_it 25m
My dad pretends to hate the bachelorette yet I just heard him tell my mom "I don't think Andi is good enough for Josh"

Me too.  I actually don't think she is good enough for Josh, Nick, or Marcus.  I have to actually be shown some more of Chris to think she isn't good enough for him.

And why, oh why, weren't these PMSing little boys mad that Josh got a second 1:1 when both Dylan and Chris had earlier 1:1's than he did?  I mean come on Chris, your 1:1 was the first week of taping and you aren't pissed that Josh who had a 1:1 a mere two weeks ago got another 1:1?  This stinks of the boys being prodded to be mad at Nick.

Dylan did make a comment that Josh had just had a 1-1 a week and a half ago but I agree that he didn't seem to be directing any anger toward Josh about it.

Cecilia wrote:

happygirl77us wrote:

Cecilia wrote:That preview! Chris: you could be a housewife in Iowa. I would die. Please no Chris for bachelor.

that actually made me like him more, but I'm okay with being a housewife since that's what I am

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a housewife. Being a mother is the hardest job. But she's a trained lawyer. You don't give that up just like that.

While I agree, she actually has given it up for a year now and has no definite plans to return to it, that we know of.

Agreed that mother is the hardest job. I always found it odd when single mom's supported Emily. Her schtick as a single mom bugged me so much. To me single mom is someone who struggles to provide and be there for their child/children. Emily and her silver foot in her mouth (I loved Ann Richards!) has never struggled for anything a day in her life.

SafronSahara wrote:I usually mute Nick and Andi's 1 on 1's, but I'll admit that cobblestone street make-out session was kinda hot. Nick doesn't excite me physically so he must be an alright kisser.

When did the tables turn? For so long Josh was admittedly the giddy and nervous one around the Dorf but she has turned a new page. What did Josh do that had Andi acting like that on the second half of the date? You ladies were right... Murray acts like the lead and Andi is the contestant who's evidently super smitten.  

I think she was always like this with him too but tried to play it cool but she's clearly already in love and has kind of lost control over herself to pretend with him. He totally disarms all the many, many defenses she has going.

Also, I just have to say that I'm personally happy that it looks like Josh thinks she's still worthy of being loved and not locked up in a nunnery with the key tossed for needing reassurance and affection. She's doing her best. Ehh. I can forgive a lot, just like I can forgive the guys, including Nick, for all their craziness.

Okay, I am going to bed and will stop harping on MeAndi.

But one last dig. Yet another ugly rose ceremony dress. Tons of beautiful dresses available and these are what she chose? Either the stylist was enjoying the free use of drugs available in nearby Holland or MeAndi has really bad taste.

sophienette wrote:MMMMMM... so seems the guys believe Nick does know every season inside out.... well well (are "told ya so's" allowed?)   

I knew there was something fishing about Nick. How can so many people see the same thing about a guy? These guys lived with him.

Kashathediva wrote:There is such obvious manipulation by the machine this season, I am surprised they didn't pull out a marionette date again for the puppet symbolism.
I have to wonder how much all the guys are are acting, that scene where the guys confronted Nick was a joke with all the bad acting and prompting.

I think a lot of it is them restating stuff they already said and we all know that after we blow steam it just loses it's power the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time saying it.

I didn't see Andi pulling back from Marcus after what he told her about his family. In fact she came to his defense. She definitely wasn't pulling back with them kisses. It doesn't matter what he tells her it doesn't change her mind.

Interesting that Chris, Dylan and Brian all agreed that Josh and Marcus were guaranteed HTDs. ie at worst Marcus was F3 at that point (since Nick already had a rose). So what happens to make Marcus F4? She's never going to move to Iowa--was it maybe a kindness to Marcus not to string him along any more. I don't see him bailing but ...

stuckinsc wrote:Okay, I am going to bed and will stop harping on MeAndi.

But one last dig.  Yet another ugly rose ceremony dress.  Tons of beautiful dresses available and these are what she chose?  Either the stylist was enjoying the free use of drugs available in nearby Holland or MeAndi has really bad taste.

I said it earlier with her hair in that spinster bun and the dress she looked like the Black Widow.

Maggenzm wrote:

sophienette wrote:MMMMMM... so seems the guys believe Nick does know every season inside out.... well well (are "told ya so's" allowed?)   

I knew there was something fishing about Nick. How can so many people see the same thing about a guy? These guys lived with him.

I also think the guys were pushed by TPTB to be mad at him, and quite honestly he made it easy.

I won't criticize him for knowing the show, when all I heard last season was how stupid JPG was to go on the show without knowing it better.

Can't have it both ways, was JPG stupid or is Nick evil and plodding? Or is TPTB messing with people.

Keep in mind, that Andi loved all this stuff that Nick did that made the guys made.

My husband likes to tell me that if you can't come up with specific examples it is usually because you are exaggerating things in your own mind. I kind of saw that tonight. The had almost no specific examples, it was like TPTB had been whispering in their ears and then of course Nick was intent on earning that rose that princess MeAndi pointed out was so important. We have seen Nick all season try to do what is important to MeAndi.

The main dig on Nick was that he had watched the show. Um, if none of the other guys had watched the show, then how were they so excited it was Andi? Something doesn't add up there.

Kashathediva wrote:There is such obvious manipulation by the machine this season, I am surprised they didn't pull out a marionette date again for the puppet symbolism.
I have to wonder how much all the guys are are acting, that scene where the guys confronted Nick was a joke with all the bad acting and prompting.

They did have a mini marionette show in Venice... while Josh was talking... ha ha!

b wrote:The only way I could see Nick voluntarily leaving is if he believed she loved Josh more than him.  

In the plane video it sounds like the person on the other end asks if Andi will change her mind.  Nick then talks about how Jason changed his mind but Andi won't because she's stubborn.  To me it sounds like Andi rejects Nick.  

Maybe Andi does the same thing to Nick she supposedly does to Chris and Josh is the only one at the final rose ceremony?