Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #3

[MVMom39forever]

^^^Umm, but miming isn't fun and the crowd wasn't exactly welcoming. he was probably embarrassed.

[luvlady345]

Agree umm, it's about him pouting/whining and showing his boredom he could have at least fake it for Andi' s sake. She had to look over and see his sour face throughout the date, like just being with her wasn't good enough no matter what they were doing.

[nutty1]

My guess is he wasn't pouting the whole time……you know how they love to show us the bad parts. He told her he was crazy about her on their evening time alone and they cut that out.

[umngirl]

^^^Umm, but miming isn't fun and the crowd wasn't exactly welcoming. he was probably embarrassed.  

And the guys taking off their clothes weren't more embarrassed, with the exception of maybe Cody? They all did it with smiles on their faces and that's what Nick should have done.

[Alanna]

My guess is he wasn't pouting the whole time……you know how they love to show us the bad parts. He told her he was crazy about her on their evening time alone and they cut that out.

Except Andi complained about it on the date and also in her blog, but granted the blog thing is retrospective, after being all cuddled up with a jelly belly f1 all weekend.

[MVMom39forever]

^^^Umm, but miming isn't fun and the crowd wasn't exactly welcoming. he was probably embarrassed.  

And the guys taking off their clothes weren't more embarrassed, with the exception of maybe Cody? They all did it with smiles on their faces and that's what Nick should have done.

Hurray! You Win! You're Right!

Bad boy Nick ...

[Retiredswimmom]

^^^Umm, but miming isn't fun and the crowd wasn't exactly welcoming. he was probably embarrassed.  

And the guys taking off their clothes weren't more embarrassed, with the exception of maybe Cody? They all did it with smiles on their faces and that's what Nick should have done.

Hurray! You Win! You're Right!

Bad boy Nick ...

MVMom, you put a smile on my face with words. :cutesmile!: 

[ElonM]

All my males friends rib each other and me all the time - its all in good fun. I don't think Nick meant to be hurtful but when Cody said it hurt him he quickly apologised. Have you ever meant to be funny and it comes out wrong? I sure have.

This. The scene actually ended up being so awkward and made the whole thing even more ridiculous. Cody starts getting all heated and Nick remains fairly calm and when Nick says, "Cody didn't you and I rag on each other a bunch of times and say things to each other", Cody pretty much says yes. At which point Nick says okay but then admits that he didn't realize Cody was so bothered by what he said and he apologized. At which point Cody's ire deflates and the whole thing seems even more ridiculous but suddenly all this drama is basically over nothing.

eta: Just saw JP's tweet - I knew there was a reason he's always been one of my favorites. JP and I are on the same page here. I said it last night but I really feel like the Nick drama had some bit of producer manipulation behind it. Like maybe there wasn't enough drama and so they started whispering in the other guys' ears.

I have also never been a fan of the "gang-up" on this show towards one contestant. I always often find myself siding with the one being ganged up on because I hate group-think mentality. On top of that, in BOTH instances, the editing showed the guys attacking Nick first. Last week was all Cody and Tasos once they realized they weren't getting any 1 on 1 time with Andi before the rose ceremony and last night, Cody and company were not the least bit subtle when they started the conversation, with the clear intent of leading to basically telling Nick they think he's arrogant because "how dare he - he thinks he's the frontrunner." I'm sorry, I just found the whole thing incredibly juvenile and contrived.

As for group mime stuff, while yes Nick should have just gone with the whole cheesy thing and have fun with it, I think Nick just ultimately thought the whole thing was stupid and didn't think it had anything to do with falling in love with Andi which these ridiculous things rarely do. Going by Nick's own words from the earliest episodes, he already had some skepticism about the whole show process and the ability to really find love in a situation like this. And I think with the whole miming thing he just kind of felt like "this is stupid - "how the hell is hanging around outside, looking ridiculous with a bunch of guys, not saying a word to the woman we're here for, going to help us fall in love with and build a relationship with her?" Yes, I admit it wasn't the most pleasant and fun attitude to have but I might have felt the same which to be fair is why I would never go on a show like this.

Excellent post! My thoughts exactly ... I watched last night with my unspoiled daughter and she thought Cody was being such a meathead and was the one attacking Nick. If you actually listened to words, Cody can apparently dish it out but not take it. I just can't take Cody seriously whatsoever ... just not my cup of tea.

Andi's strong reaction to Nick shows that she has higher expectations for him. Yet, she is the one that put the target on Nick by giving him the FIR, a one on one date AND a group rose date ... when at that point the attacking guys (Cody, Patrick and Andrew) had yet to receive even one of those. I would NOT count Chris in there as he was being very diplomatic with Andi, she was pressuring him while he was trying to minimize the situation.  

While prior "bad boys/girls" such as Courtney, Tierra, Kalon, Vienna, etc., all did something that warranted group backlash, I have yet to see Nick do or say anything other than be the Object of Andi's affection.  

And, I don't blame Nick or any guy for not wanting to participate in the mime date! I was frankly embarrassed to watch. It was sooooo dumb and they looked just foolish. People of Marseilles were clearly not cheering them on. I can't imagine any guy from age 12 and up wanting to participate.

 

 :alltens:   Love this post!!

Post of reason. Love this post!!

[ElonM]

Bow Tie Nick Looking good!

[Maggenzm]

Ill be honest and say I did not like Nicks pouting on the GD. Your there, you can't leave, you signed up for this ridiculous show, I have seen that you usually do have a good sense of humor, so enjoy the scenery and silliness! With that said, I do get the sense that Nick has genuine feeling developing for her and doesn't know how to deal with that. I think he wants to let go but the sceptic in him is holding him back. I also think that the drama from the cocktail party, along with the fact the Cody, and Andrew were on this date made him feel a little uneasy. I'm sure at this point he had picked up in the producer manipulation and that also excellerated his insecurities.

And Cody, I am goin to say this 300 lb meathead who pushed a car up the driveway is not as sensitive and offended by arrogance as he claims to be. I would say he also has some insecurities going on as well. It's guys living together,that's what they do, poke fun of each other. Stop whining and being jealous. I also find it interesting that no one went to Andi about Andrew getting a girls number but they were quick to tattle on Nick for something stupid!

I do agree with Cody, Nick is a great guy... But he cannot handle this situation. I think if he didn't have real feeling developing for her that he would probably ask to go home at this point.


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I just watch his video on youtube trashing Josh. Wow! There is no way that video is fake. So, this doesn't surprise me. What we saw yesterday was the real him. That is his usual self that we don't to see. He is not F1.

[lleyki]

I am not saying Nick is justified on his bad attitude, but come on, how did that group date help anyone  build a connection with Andi? At least basketball date is more fun.

This exactly. Yes while they were playing basketball there was not a lot of 1 on 1 talking with her but at least the basketball was something normal and fun, something that he was probably thinking "yeah I can see myself doing this with my buddies and just hanging out..." In what world would the guy be miming. So I think Nick just felt the entire thing was one giant waste of time and again, sure, not the most positive attitude to have but I can't blame him because I'd probably feel the same.

[nd4reality]

My guess is he wasn't pouting the whole time……you know how they love to show us the bad parts. He told her he was crazy about her on their evening time alone and they cut that out.

Except Andi complained about it on the date and also in her blog, but granted the blog thing is retrospective, after being all cuddled up with a jelly belly f1 all weekend.

That is what got me last season about the Clare interview on the nonspoiled side where most were sure that Clare was F1. I argued that if she was still without closure on the issue during airing then she definitely would not be in touch with the lead since the ending.
This situation is similar. (NOT that Nick and Clare are similar).

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