Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - The Journey So Far - June 9th, 2014 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

docnash14 wrote:

notarose wrote:From what I'm reading, Andi cancelled the rest of the cocktail party so the guys who didn't get to talk to her before Eric (Josh did for sure) shouldn't be mad at Nick.

I've grown to like Cody.  Probably all the guys are just getting antsy as it is the half-way point.  Cody and some other guys still hasn't had a 1-1 so they don't know where they stand.  It's the perfect storm conditions for a tiff.

Not sure if it's a matter of whether they "should" be mad or not - fact is they were and we likely don't know all of the contributing factors .  (Let's remember that they had all just witnessed Andi's come apart  and I would imagine they were all trying to process this other side of her that had just revealed itself which had to lead to some ambivalence at best - feeling protective of her but at the same time possibly thinking - uh-oh are we going to see her head start spinning next).  As I said in another post, it appeared to me that the other guys had the impression that they were not supposed to go after Andi - who knows that could have been a function of what they were told by producers - and I am sure they were resentful toward Nick for having done what they themselves wanted to do but it also seemed like to me that some how they felt that Nick had stepped out of line.  And Josh is one of those guys you mentioned, of course, who at that point had not had a 1-1 date.  So, yes, a perfect storm in which I think Nick was also a participant primarily due to what I perceived as his smugness.  That being said, I don't blame Nick for going to comfort Andi irrespective of his reason for doing so.  More power to him.

emad0722 wrote:how is it that nick gets the drama edit (for comforting her!) but that crazy kid andrew doesn't?? he took a girls number haha so weird how they play this all

stuckinsc wrote:

emad0722 wrote:how is it that nick gets the drama edit (for comforting her!) but that crazy kid andrew doesn't?? he took a girls number haha so weird how they play this all

maybe the drama edit is good, since Andi herself was so dramatic when she left JPG in St. Lucia, it may bode well for them together!

emad0722 wrote:how is it that nick gets the drama edit (for comforting her!) but that crazy kid andrew doesn't?? he took a girls number haha so weird how they play this all

emad0722 wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

emad0722 wrote:how is it that nick gets the drama edit (for comforting her!) but that crazy kid andrew doesn't?? he took a girls number haha so weird how they play this all

maybe the drama edit is good, since Andi herself was so dramatic when she left JPG in St. Lucia, it may bode well for them together!

hahaha nah I'm thinking she won't like someone who stands up for himself...

brittany4400 wrote:

emad0722 wrote:how is it that nick gets the drama edit (for comforting her!) but that crazy kid andrew doesn't?? he took a girls number haha so weird how they play this all

 Nick taking the initiative to go check on Andi tells me where he is at.. thinking about her. On the other hand, the guys who were angry about it, despite what just happened with Andi and Eric, tells me they were only concerned about themselves. When they were walking back Nick said "look who I found". He just went to console her and brought her back to the guys. They should be thankful, if not, she may have came back yelling at them again for not caring about her/checking on her. Obviously it meant a lot to her, since she gave him the first rose.

Piper61 wrote:

docnash14 wrote:

notarose wrote:From what I'm reading, Andi cancelled the rest of the cocktail party so the guys who didn't get to talk to her before Eric (Josh did for sure) shouldn't be mad at Nick.

I've grown to like Cody.  Probably all the guys are just getting antsy as it is the half-way point.  Cody and some other guys still hasn't had a 1-1 so they don't know where they stand.  It's the perfect storm conditions for a tiff.

Not sure if it's a matter of whether they "should" be mad or not - fact is they were and we likely don't know all of the contributing factors .  (Let's remember that they had all just witnessed Andi's come apart  and I would imagine they were all trying to process this other side of her that had just revealed itself which had to lead to some ambivalence at best - feeling protective of her but at the same time possibly thinking - uh-oh are we going to see her head start spinning next).  As I said in another post, it appeared to me that the other guys had the impression that they were not supposed to go after Andi - who knows that could have been a function of what they were told by producers - and I am sure they were resentful toward Nick for having done what they themselves wanted to do but it also seemed like to me that some how they felt that Nick had stepped out of line.  And Josh is one of those guys you mentioned, of course, who at that point had not had a 1-1 date.  So, yes, a perfect storm in which I think Nick was also a participant primarily due to what I perceived as his smugness.  That being said, I don't blame Nick for going to comfort Andi irrespective of his reason for doing so.  More power to him.

I agree with all of this and will just say that I don't think Josh was mad at not having one on one alone time because he did.  I believe he stated twice, once to Andi and once to the guys that he would have wanted to go get her as would all of the other guys.  To me, it was more perceiving Nick stepped out of line.  And as Tasos told Nick, he was coming across a bit arrogant and he didn't like that.  His smirk was a bit off putting.  However, at the end of the show during Andi's speech to the guys announcing that they were going to France, I noticed that Nick had his arm across Josh's shoulder/back.  

emad0722 wrote:

brittany4400 wrote:

emad0722 wrote:how is it that nick gets the drama edit (for comforting her!) but that crazy kid andrew doesn't?? he took a girls number haha so weird how they play this all

 Nick taking the initiative to go check on Andi tells me where he is at.. thinking about her. On the other hand, the guys who were angry about it, despite what just happened with Andi and Eric, tells me they were only concerned about themselves. When they were walking back Nick said "look who I found". He just went to console her and brought her back to the guys. They should be thankful, if not, she may have came back yelling at them again for not caring about her/checking on her. Obviously it meant a lot to her, since she gave him the first rose.

i agree its just so funny how the portray it all - like being caring is bad?!?!

black_tears wrote:

emad0722 wrote:

brittany4400 wrote:

emad0722 wrote:how is it that nick gets the drama edit (for comforting her!) but that crazy kid andrew doesn't?? he took a girls number haha so weird how they play this all

 Nick taking the initiative to go check on Andi tells me where he is at.. thinking about her. On the other hand, the guys who were angry about it, despite what just happened with Andi and Eric, tells me they were only concerned about themselves. When they were walking back Nick said "look who I found". He just went to console her and brought her back to the guys. They should be thankful, if not, she may have came back yelling at them again for not caring about her/checking on her. Obviously it meant a lot to her, since she gave him the first rose.

i agree its just so funny how the portray it all - like being caring is bad?!?!

Breaking the bromance/bro-code is a big no no.   

brittany4400 wrote:

black_tears wrote:

emad0722 wrote:

brittany4400 wrote:

emad0722 wrote:how is it that nick gets the drama edit (for comforting her!) but that crazy kid andrew doesn't?? he took a girls number haha so weird how they play this all

 Nick taking the initiative to go check on Andi tells me where he is at.. thinking about her. On the other hand, the guys who were angry about it, despite what just happened with Andi and Eric, tells me they were only concerned about themselves. When they were walking back Nick said "look who I found". He just went to console her and brought her back to the guys. They should be thankful, if not, she may have came back yelling at them again for not caring about her/checking on her. Obviously it meant a lot to her, since she gave him the first rose.

i agree its just so funny how the portray it all - like being caring is bad?!?!

Breaking the bromance/bro-code is a big no no.   

You know.... Josh's outburst did seem a lil random and out of place. At one point I thought he was defending what Nick did. Maybe he meant that towards Andrew or someone else and the edit made it look like he was talking to Nick.

black_tears wrote:

brittany4400 wrote:

black_tears wrote:

emad0722 wrote:

brittany4400 wrote:

emad0722 wrote:how is it that nick gets the drama edit (for comforting her!) but that crazy kid andrew doesn't?? he took a girls number haha so weird how they play this all

 Nick taking the initiative to go check on Andi tells me where he is at.. thinking about her. On the other hand, the guys who were angry about it, despite what just happened with Andi and Eric, tells me they were only concerned about themselves. When they were walking back Nick said "look who I found". He just went to console her and brought her back to the guys. They should be thankful, if not, she may have came back yelling at them again for not caring about her/checking on her. Obviously it meant a lot to her, since she gave him the first rose.

i agree its just so funny how the portray it all - like being caring is bad?!?!

Breaking the bromance/bro-code is a big no no.   

You know.... Josh's outburst did seem a lil random and out of place. At one point I thought he was defending what Nick did. Maybe he meant that towards Andrew or someone else and the edit made it look like he was talking to Nick.

I think so too. Seemed like the attack on Nick was spliced and diced pretty nicely.