Re: Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #3

[Catdwoman50]

How was the leak easy and a set up? I don't think they assumed they would get caught using Snapchat because it hasn't happened before! Also this isn't the only slip up this season. You have Marcus and Chris following Andi on twitter when they're not supposed to.

Not proven to be him.

Why can't contestants follow the lead? Curious.

[MiaHawk]

IMO, MF could collect on that 5 million confidentiality breach, but he probably makes more money if the season gets spoiled.

I do believe Andi picked Josh, but I believe even more strongly in the right of others not to believe!   

[chloep]

^^ It's totally not him. It's well documented in his thread that that handle used to have "fan site of MG" in their description, they only deleted that part recently.

[Ash2214]

For me, this show is about fun. Every Monday night I hang out with my friends, have some food and drinks and watch the show. My friends don't know about this site or even RS for that matter. They hav zero clue who the F4 are let alone the F1 and I would say about 80-85% of the viewers are in the same boat as them. My friends couldn't tell you a single thing about Josh or his family. The only people that know about the clues from his family or other spoilers are the people that go digging for them. You're entitled to feel that way for sure, but I don't get why so many people are upset over this when we're all digging for hints and clues.

I do it because it makes it more fun for me. I don't care about being surprised. I don't take it personally and it's not the end of the world if the lead doesn't pick a certain person. I'm not Andi. I don't know what she wants in a relationship and if she chose Josh, then good for her. I hope they make it. Josh seems like a great guy that comes from a sweet family. Everything that we've gotten we have because we were digging for some information or because someone else have them to us.

It's not an easy situation to be in. They want to be a normal couple and like I said, most of this information wouldn't have been found if people didn't go digging for it. Heck, I just checked for the first time who my favorites were on snapchat. I think it's hilarious reading about all of this stuff and it's fun seeing everything add up.

It's not easy to be on guard 24.7. I'm not going to insult two people or be upset at two people I don't even know for wanting to be a normal couple and for making a mistake that most people won't even know about.

This is all fun and I'm hoping we get more as it's fun to dissect it all.

[Maggenzm]

I think this whole thing is a set up. It certainly has gotten a lot of  people's attention and tongue wagging!  Kudos to whoever got this ball rolling!

I think you are completely right.  A set up for sure!!  Wonder who the real F1 is??

He might well be the F1, so they are trying to confuse people. It happened last year with Nikki and Clare, same with Brooks and Chris, and many were confused and questioned RS, cus producers did a good job confusing people.
If you listen to the F1 and lead post show, they tell you how disappointed they are, cus they didn't show the good stuff about them, Chris and Des said that, JPG and Nikki said that as well. Producers work very hard to keep the good stuff to the minimum. So, we ll see how many people tune in to watch the show come Monday.  What the rating will be Monday? We all can't wait for their one on one date. TeamJosh will be more convince no matter what, and teamNick will not be impressed no matter what. We do this every year. Exciting ha!!

[ThankMeLater]

For me, this show is about fun. Every Monday night I hang out with my friends, have some food and drinks and watch the show. My friends don't know about this site or even RS for that matter. They hav zero clue who the F4 are let alone the F1 and I would say about 80-85% of the viewers are in the same boat as them. My friends couldn't tell you a single thing about Josh or his family. The only people that know about the clues from his family or other spoilers are the people that go digging for them. You're entitled to feel that way for sure, but I don't get why so many people are upset over this when we're all digging for hints and clues.

I do it because it makes it more fun for me. I don't care about being surprised. I don't take it personally and it's not the end of the world if the lead doesn't pick a certain person. I'm not Andi. I don't know what she wants in a relationship and if she chose Josh, then good for her. I hope they make it. Josh seems like a great guy that comes from a sweet family. Everything that we've gotten we have because we were digging for some information or because someone else have them to us.

It's not an easy situation to be in. They want to be a normal couple and like I said, most of this information wouldn't have been found if people didn't go digging for it. Heck, I just checked for the first time who my favorites were on snapchat. I think it's hilarious reading about all of this stuff and it's fun seeing everything add up.

It's not easy to be on guard 24.7. I'm not going to insult two people or be upset at two people I don't even know for wanting to be a normal couple and for making a mistake that most people won't even know about.

This is all fun and I'm hoping we get more as it's fun to dissect it all.

Well said Ash!   

[Relalou]

For me, this show is about fun. Every Monday night I hang out with my friends, have some food and drinks and watch the show. My friends don't know about this site or even RS for that matter. They hav zero clue who the F4 are let alone the F1 and I would say about 80-85% of the viewers are in the same boat as them. My friends couldn't tell you a single thing about Josh or his family. The only people that know about the clues from his family or other spoilers are the people that go digging for them. You're entitled to feel that way for sure, but I don't get why so many people are upset over this when we're all digging for hints and clues.

I do it because it makes it more fun for me. I don't care about being surprised. I don't take it personally and it's not the end of the world if the lead doesn't pick a certain person. I'm not Andi. I don't know what she wants in a relationship and if she chose Josh, then good for her. I hope they make it. Josh seems like a great guy that comes from a sweet family. Everything that we've gotten we have because we were digging for some information or because someone else have them to us.

It's not an easy situation to be in. They want to be a normal couple and like I said, most of this information wouldn't have been found if people didn't go digging for it. Heck, I just checked for the first time who my favorites were on snapchat. I think it's hilarious reading about all of this stuff and it's fun seeing everything add up.

It's not easy to be on guard 24.7. I'm not going to insult two people or be upset at two people I don't even know for wanting to be a normal couple and for making a mistake that most people won't even know about.

This is all fun and I'm hoping we get more as it's fun to dissect it all.

Well said Ash!   

You express exactly how I feel Ash! Well said!

[Maggenzm]

For me, this show is about fun. Every Monday night I hang out with my friends, have some food and drinks and watch the show. My friends don't know about this site or even RS for that matter. They hav zero clue who the F4 are let alone the F1 and I would say about 80-85% of the viewers are in the same boat as them. My friends couldn't tell you a single thing about Josh or his family. The only people that know about the clues from his family or other spoilers are the people that go digging for them. You're entitled to feel that way for sure, but I don't get why so many people are upset over this when we're all digging for hints and clues.

I do it because it makes it more fun for me. I don't care about being surprised. I don't take it personally and it's not the end of the world if the lead doesn't pick a certain person. I'm not Andi. I don't know what she wants in a relationship and if she chose Josh, then good for her. I hope they make it. Josh seems like a great guy that comes from a sweet family. Everything that we've gotten we have because we were digging for some information or because someone else have them to us.

It's not an easy situation to be in. They want to be a normal couple and like I said, most of this information wouldn't have been found if people didn't go digging for it. Heck, I just checked for the first time who my favorites were on snapchat. I think it's hilarious reading about all of this stuff and it's fun seeing everything add up.

It's not easy to be on guard 24.7. I'm not going to insult two people or be upset at two people I don't even know for wanting to be a normal couple and for making a mistake that most people won't even know about.

This is all fun and I'm hoping we get more as it's fun to dissect it all.

    This is suppose to be fun! I would not have known about the snapshot if I didn't come here to post today .So, If Josh is F1, all is still well in the Universe, I am very happy for he, and wish her the best, it's her life, it's her choice. But, right now, no one really knows what happened, only the family and friends. So, if you are very sensitive, maybe the spoiler is not for you, read the unspoiled, there is no drama there, just saying.. 

[Guest]

I'm all for the sleuthing & looking for clues but I don't understand the mean spirited name calling. Not necessary & I don't think this is the blog for those who are not fans.

[Hotmomma]

I'm all for the sleuthing & looking for clues but I don't understand the mean spirited name calling. Not necessary & I don't think this is the blog for those who are not fans.

This thread isn't the "Fan" thread..So it's in the site rule that people can post what they want about the contestants but we aren't allowed to attack other members/ posters. i know it would be VERY difficult for me to hear things If they were my son/daughter/ close friends..I think I would have to stay in the Fan thread.

[Kashathediva]

I'm all for the sleuthing & looking for clues but I don't understand the mean spirited name calling.  Not necessary & I don't think this is the blog for those who are not fans.

This thread isn't the "Fan" thread..So it's in the site rule that people can post what they want about the contestants but we aren't allowed to attack other members/ posters. i know it would be VERY difficult for me to hear things If they were my son/daughter/ close friends..I think I would have to stay in the Fan thread.

Thank you, HM.   
This has been encouaged! Multiple times in fact!! Fan threads are created for just that---fans!!! 
Every season we get family, friends and fans who want a place to call their own---we have a place--fan threads. 
Everyone can have a place to be happy.  

[Aunties_Love]

I know this is going to seem monotonous to some, but I gathered some posts and thought I'd put my answers/thoughts to all in one post.

The "scoop it" thing is super popular with the UGA football team. A lot of them have it in their tweets and I've seen aaron tweet it too. Andi's snapchat is 100% legit too.

IMO, it is a setup...why would Andi do her own name as a contact to her F1?  Makes no sense what so ever that she'd do that if she's supposed to not have contact with her F1 publically like that.

To me, it almost seems like TPTB orchestrated this all on it's own storyboard.The season does not end after the FRC
anymore.  Should be very interesting to see which storyboard it is

IMO, this is too easy and too blatant.  Very much like TPTB did all this to rub RS's face in it a little more.

Bronwyn wrote:IF the video was a foiler, then there's no reason IMO, for TPTB to spend anymore of their time coming up with other foilers. After all RS bought the video hook, line, and sinker and is all in on his Josh as F1 spoiler. I am of the opinion the spoilers are correct this season, especially after the snap chat thingy.

luvlady345
See me too it's too much pointing to Josh as F1, the video could be explained away as a foiler, but the snapchat with his mom in the top 3 for that to be a foiler they would have to know Josh's mom handler.......

Yes, there is too much pointing to Josh as F1 for it to all believed right now.  Almost like we are being SOLD on the idea of Josh being F1.  It would be so easy for the producers to know Josh's mom's chat handle and could easily do something about it.  Think about it, why would Andi use her correct name in talking to her supposed F1 when they aren't supposed to have contact with each other...that's why there was always code names in the past.

IA, they might as well shut the doors and put an Out of Business sign. I find it hard to believe, MF let the season go down like this. It just doesn't make sense. Why would he take the chance and do nothing, knowing RS is going to spoil again. If the plane conversation is legit, wouldn't someone put the fear of death in the others. MF is prepared to let all these spoilers get out there well before the finale airs and not be concerned with that. That doesn't sound like a good business plan to me.  

We have pics from HTD's that RS basically walked up to. We have creepy pics taken through a window during HTDs, recorded conversations on a plane coming back from the DR right after the FRC, snap chats between the supposed F1 and the lead, airport pics of Josh coming back from the FRC location, and random people that just happen to be around that are familiar with the show and RS. We have a supposed F4
that if he wasn't any more hidden we wouldn't know he existed. We can't forget Marcus who was going to BIP on Saturday, then Sunday, then Monday, then not at all. Now he apparently is telling friends he's going to be the bachelor.I'm looking forward to the FRC. Everything in between will be a new learning experience since they are all over the place with the edit.

I am really thinking we are being set up to believe Josh is F1.  Like you said, first we have the plane video(released after the spoilers for Josh F1 came out), now the snap chat....so much like we are being slammed with this, which really makes me think what they are telling us isn't what's going to happen.

How could she not use it much, but she's in Josh's top three? If Andi doesn't use it much, that can't be a good thing can it, considering what we seen??  
The left doesn't know what the right is doing. Geesh!

Do we say producer driven??  IMO, those accounts are a setup is all.

chloep posted an updated screen shot from the weekend, where Andi dropped off. I would think they didn't snapchat since before the weekend and not because they were tipped off. Does that make sense?

Are you thinking that Andi and Josh DON'T talk on snapchat?  Is that concept maybe a setup to show RS that he's on the "right track", meanwhile in reality, Andi and Josh aren't together cause he was never F1?

GuardianAngel wrote:It's right there plain as day, everyone can see who you snapchat with the most. One would think they would read the whole benefits and disadvantages of snapchat if they were looking for something private. Who just signs up and starts using any type of app without making sure it's what you want?
Did the two friends plan this ahead of time with the intent to feed RS should the opportunity arise? Hmmm something to think about for next season! laugh out loud





I'm trying to figure out why Andi would use her real name. That is what leads me to think that it really isn't Andi at all

2observe, are you thinking that maybe this is a complete setup and Josh and Andi don't talk to one another?  Like maybe Josh isn't the actual F1??

I honestly wouldn't put anything past producers ... especially having lived through Des' season as a die hard Chris fan. Several sleuthers/Chris fans worked very hard to build a case for Chris and when every spoiler on this Board joined RS in saying Brooks was F1, I finally gave up.

So ... I say SURE anything could happen this season. Bring it on!  :woah-hoo:

This occurred to me too ... isn't it PERFECT TIMING that on a week with no new episode, no recaps in the magazine, no blogs from Andi/Chris ... a week when it should be super quiet ... that RS releases a new set of damning "evidence" that Josh is F1 with snap chat clues and airport sightings.

And what are we all doing ... chatting up the show like crazy ... even more so than if there were an episode ... which is exactly what TPTB wants.

Sure all the evidence is pointing to Josh as F1 but just who is behind all the evidence that's leaking like never before???

RS himself has said that he's never had things come to him so easy as this season, maybe there is a reason for that.  Maybe, just maybe he's getting the info as it is a set up by the producers.  Heck, I remember being told that there is no way the producers would go to an extent to protect the F1 and the spoilers are correct, low and behold, they(producers)went to a great extent to let RS fall and it ended up being Chris as F1 and not the spoiler of Brooks.

I am thinking we are in for another shakedown with the actual F1 this time around.

In my opinion, RS gets stuff like this every single year. It appears he's releasing a lot of it this year because maybe he wants to prove that he does have the right person as the F1.

To compare it to Des' season I think it is kind of foolish considering the two seasons are not comparable. The amount of things we've gotten that points to Josh as the F1 far surpasses what we got for Des' season. It's not just Josh and Andi that are giving us clues, it's also his whole family. I'm not quite sure why so many people involved would go to these far lengths for a fake result. [/i]Also, with snapchat you have to snapchat someone a good amount to become someone's favorite.[i] Do you really think Josh would be willing to snapchat a girl that broke his heart to fool other people? I certainly don't think so.

RS stated in his blog a few times of how he's never had things given to him as easy as this season.  He said it when the video was released.  IMO, that's because he's being set up for a huge fall again.

I believe that ANY season can be compared to a past season.  Thats how we find different sleuthing practices and clues that can be used from one season to the next.  Comparing Des's to this one is EXTREMELY valid.  

I think the bolded/italics has been proven false.  One has to accept the other as a friend, then yes, they snapchat back and forth...not just one way.  Also, IMO, it's so easy for the producers to make plants such as this.  If you were Andi would you honestly use your real name when getting in touch with your supposed F1.  Makes no sense at all!!

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