Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #2

[ElonM]

I'm disappointed myself! I don't know what to make of this season yet. The video, the bracelet and now Snapchat.

I did notice Josh had the yellow bracelet on in the photos RS posted.  Did he get them in the DR? Did he have them before filming? I guess it doesn't matter now.  It's going to be hard for me to watch Andi and Nick's relationship grow only to see him get dumped on July 28th  

It's going to be hard for me to watch Andi and Nick's relationship grow only to see him get dumped on July 28th

Me too, I'll try not to invest so much.

Other than IF, has there been so much evidence pointing to a FI?

[nutty1]

If Josh had the yellow bracelet then, I'd guess its something he got there, and not a representation of LSU.
Still, I agree….not good for Nick.
Oh well, he may be better off in the end, they usually are!!   

[atem]

It will be interesting to see how 'sensitive' Nick is when he's dumped. That's what Andi called him, not me.

[lleyki]

I guess it's a good thing for me that I never get invested in this show and the pairings which you can't blame me considering the crappy record of successful couples, so the spoilers don't bug me. I adore Nick, he is my absolute favorite but I'm totally fine with Andi not picking him. It's probably also because I don't actively dislike Josh. He does nothing for me physically but I'm not the one who has to date him so it doesn't matter.

As for the drama in last night's recap show, I watched the scene again on youtube and I disagree that Nick was smug. It seemed to me, that when Nick first walked back in with Andi, some were upset at themselves that they didn't take that opportunity and go comfort her but after Andi spoke and said she was okay and happy they were all there, they might have assumed the cocktail party would continue, thereby giving them time to talk to her.

However Chris Harrison walked in and pretty much announced the rose ceremony was happening immediately which meant there was no time left to talk to Andi and spend time with her before she handed out the roses. And that's when the claws came out. And as someone noted in the episode discussion thread, it was clearly the guys who likely felt most vulnerable at being eliminated who first went after Nick.

Cody starts it off by stating to Nick that he got his 1 on 1 time and Nick, imo pretty calmly, just said, "yeah that was my 1 on 1 time." Then Cody starts saying he didn't get 1 on 1 time and Tasos starts going on about what's the point for the rest of them and Nick, still calm imo, says that he was going to take the opportunity to comfort Andi as they would have all wanted to. At that point Josh who I don't know if some rage blackout passed over him snapped out about it being bullshit or whatever and saying how he would have loved to have that opportunity or whatever.

Tasos then mentions again that they all had that desire to console Andi and Nick makes a comment about did he think it would have made that much of a difference which I think he meant that if Andi had already made up her mind about a guy, chances are he still would have gone home even if he'd gone to console her. And then Andrew out of nowhere comes with how Nick thinks he has the upper-hand which is when Nick's tone rises and he seemed like he was getting angry rather than smug when he snapped, "who said I have the upper hand."

Then next thing Tasos and Andrew are in talking heads talking about Nick being deceitful, manipulative, Andrew saying Nick claimed he was the one who was deserving which we did not see and just all this crap. Now yes we know the producers edit this show to a tee so you can always wonder what was or wasn't shown. But having only what was shown to go by, I disagree that Nick came off as smug.

I saw a bunch of childish whiners gang up on him because they were angry that he did what they didn't have the guts to do. And they were nervous that they might be going home and decided to somehow think that might have been the reason why and that if they'd just had that few minutes it would have changed things. Obviously I don't include Josh in that because I don't think he was truly worried he might be sent home.

[2observe]

UGH! I'm so disappointed to see the snapchat favorites of Josh RS posted.  Doesn't look good for our boy Nick   

I'm disappointed myself! I don't know what to make of this season yet. The video, the bracelet and now Snapchat.

Trust me when I say that you're not alone.

[sdmom]

Alright, TeamNick, game over. RS showed more evidence of Josh being f1. Basically how he snapchats with Andi after the show, how Josh was filmed returning from DR to Miami May 11. If you don't wan to go to his site, go to Josh's thread.

Have we every seen the F1 return after the Show is done filming before?

Sorry my bad let me clarify this
RS showed Josh in the customs line at the Miami airport on Monday, May 12th returning home from the Dominican Republic – three days after the final rose ceremony

[Guest]

I'm disappointed myself! I don't know what to make of this season yet. The video, the bracelet and now Snapchat.

I did notice Josh had the yellow bracelet on in the photos RS posted.  Did he get them in the DR? Did he have them before filming? I guess it doesn't matter now.  It's going to be hard for me to watch Andi and Nick's relationship grow only to see him get dumped on July 28th  

It's going to be hard for me to watch Andi and Nick's relationship grow only to see him get dumped on July 28th

Me too, I'll try not to invest so much.

Other than IF, has there been so much evidence pointing to a FI?

its crazy to think that i still had a faith in Chris as the F1 despite all of the 5 spoilers (1RS+4 from this board) last year. More cray2 to think that this season i pretty much feel the same about Nick despite all the spoilers released.

the difference is, last year there were 5 spoilers from 5 different 'sources'. This season miraculuously looks like it morphed into 1 cocky blogger as a single source with 4 different types of spoilers : video leak, snapchat, sighting, inside source ....still counting!... WOWZA!  

^^I clearly have a problem....  

need to clarify though, IMO Nick is better off without Pookie. Now..Pookie, she is doing her thing by herself...so...let's see on July 28th

[Guest]

I guess it's a good thing for me that I never get invested in this show and the pairings which you can't blame me considering the crappy record of successful couples, so the spoilers don't bug me. I adore Nick, he is my absolute favorite but I'm totally fine with Andi not picking him. It's probably also because I don't actively dislike Josh. He does nothing for me physically but I'm not the one who has to date him so it doesn't matter.

As for the drama in last night's recap show, I watched the scene again on youtube and I disagree that Nick was smug. It seemed to me, that when Nick first walked back in with Andi, some were upset at themselves that they didn't take that opportunity and go comfort her but after Andi spoke and said she was okay and happy they were all there, they might have assumed the cocktail party would continue, thereby giving them time to talk to her.

However Chris Harrison walked in and pretty much announced the rose ceremony was happening immediately which meant there was no time left to talk to Andi and spend time with her before she handed out the roses. And that's when the claws came out. And as someone noted in the episode discussion thread, it was clearly the guys who likely felt most vulnerable at being eliminated who first went after Nick.

Cody starts it off by stating to Nick that he got his 1 on 1 time and Nick, imo pretty calmly, just said, "yeah that was my 1 on 1 time." Then Cody starts saying he didn't get 1 on 1 time and Tasos starts going on about what's the point for the rest of them and Nick, still calm imo, says that he was going to take the opportunity to comfort Andi as they would have all wanted to. At that point Josh who I don't know if some rage blackout passed over him snapped out about it being bullshit or whatever and saying how he would have loved to have that opportunity or whatever.

Tasos then mentions again that they all had that desire to console Andi and Nick makes a comment about did he think it would have made that much of a difference which I think he meant that if Andi had already made up her mind about a guy, chances are he still would have gone home even if he'd gone to console her. And then Andrew out of nowhere comes with how Nick thinks he has the upper-hand which is when Nick's tone rises and he seemed like he was getting angry rather than smug when he snapped, "who said I have the upper hand."

Then next thing Tasos and Andrew are in talking heads talking about Nick being deceitful, manipulative, Andrew saying Nick claimed he was the one who was deserving which we did not see and just all this crap. Now yes we know the producers edit this show to a tee so you can always wonder what was or wasn't shown. But having only what was shown to go by, I disagree that Nick came off as smug.

I saw a bunch of childish whiners gang up on him because they were angry that he did what they didn't have the guts to do. And they were nervous that they might be going home and decided to somehow think that might have been the reason why and that if they'd just had that few minutes it would have changed things. Obviously I don't include Josh in that because I don't think he was truly worried he might be sent home.

       Please keep up the great posts!   

[Catdwoman50]

I guess it's a good thing for me that I never get invested in this show and the pairings which you can't blame me considering the crappy record of successful couples, so the spoilers don't bug me. I adore Nick, he is my absolute favorite but I'm totally fine with Andi not picking him. It's probably also because I don't actively dislike Josh. He does nothing for me physically but I'm not the one who has to date him so it doesn't matter.

As for the drama in last night's recap show, I watched the scene again on youtube and I disagree that Nick was smug. It seemed to me, that when Nick first walked back in with Andi, some were upset at themselves that they didn't take that opportunity and go comfort her but after Andi spoke and said she was okay and happy they were all there, they might have assumed the cocktail party would continue, thereby giving them time to talk to her.

However Chris Harrison walked in and pretty much announced the rose ceremony was happening immediately which meant there was no time left to talk to Andi and spend time with her before she handed out the roses. And that's when the claws came out. And as someone noted in the episode discussion thread, it was clearly the guys who likely felt most vulnerable at being eliminated who first went after Nick.

Cody starts it off by stating to Nick that he got his 1 on 1 time and Nick, imo pretty calmly, just said, "yeah that was my 1 on 1 time." Then Cody starts saying he didn't get 1 on 1 time and Tasos starts going on about what's the point for the rest of them and Nick, still calm imo, says that he was going to take the opportunity to comfort Andi as they would have all wanted to. At that point Josh who I don't know if some rage blackout passed over him snapped out about it being bullshit or whatever and saying how he would have loved to have that opportunity or whatever.

Tasos then mentions again that they all had that desire to console Andi and Nick makes a comment about did he think it would have made that much of a difference which I think he meant that if Andi had already made up her mind about a guy, chances are he still would have gone home even if he'd gone to console her. And then Andrew out of nowhere comes with how Nick thinks he has the upper-hand which is when Nick's tone rises and he seemed like he was getting angry rather than smug when he snapped, "who said I have the upper hand."

Then next thing Tasos and Andrew are in talking heads talking about Nick being deceitful, manipulative, Andrew saying Nick claimed he was the one who was deserving which we did not see and just all this crap. Now yes we know the producers edit this show to a tee so you can always wonder what was or wasn't shown. But having only what was shown to go by, I disagree that Nick came off as smug.

I saw a bunch of childish whiners gang up on him because they were angry that he did what they didn't have the guts to do. And they were nervous that they might be going home and decided to somehow think that might have been the reason why and that if they'd just had that few minutes it would have changed things. Obviously I don't include Josh in that because I don't think he was truly worried he might be sent home.

Thanks for the succinct recap, based on the 2 mins I saw of this, that was my take on what went down.  Only now it makes sense to me why they were all upset and felt like someone "one-upped" them.  Oh well Carpe Diem, Nick! BTW, Josh hasn't had a 1on1 so I am sure he had some reservations too.

[2observe]

Alright, TeamNick, game over. RS showed more evidence of Josh being f1. Basically how he snapchats with Andi after the show, how Josh was filmed returning from DR to Miami May 11. If you don't wan to go to his site, go to Josh's thread.

Have we every seen the F1 return after the Show is done filming before?

Sorry my bad let me clarify this
RS showed Josh in the customs line at the Miami airport on Monday, May 12th returning home from the Dominican Republic – three days after the final rose ceremony

Same question. Have we every see a F1 coming back after the FRC, where is was one day or several days after the actual ceremony???

[tigertiz]

You'd think they could sequester the F2 and fly both finalists back on the same day (but that would cost them 3 extra nights of a hotel room. Plus meals!) Nah. That's too expensive for Next and ABC.
Plus, maybe only one of them would be seen in the airport. And it's not like the producers could leak the other arrival photo. No - that would be really hard to do.   

[brittany4400]

Not just the F1... But he has pics of both the F1 and F2 returning?

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