Re: Bachelorette 10 - Media Thread - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion Thread #2

[albean99]

^ I personally think they had it when they each spoke about how they were cheated on and the different effects it took on them.

After this past episode, it's pretty clear to me at least that she wants him to say he's falling for her hence why when he said he liked her she snapped back and said "give me something else other than like." Quite a few of the guys have said they were falling in love with her or that they were in love with her. She seemed frustrated that she was getting that out of Josh.

Which in turn likely frustrated Josh given the extent to which they discussed trust on their date.  If I were Josh, I would be wondering how well Andi had listened to me particularly when I had explicitly told her that I was not prepared to say Ily until it was to the person whom he planned to marry.  While I see Andi as someone who needs to feel special (heck, that's not any different than most of us) I would hope that her adult self would be able to recognize it was just a tad too soon to be professing undying love  - circumstances notwithstanding.

I didn't think Andi was trying to get Josh to say he was falling in love but she did ask him what he liked about their relationship (his word). He didn't seem to want to tell her unless they just didn't show that part.

[Ash2214]

^ I definitely thought so. That's why it seemed to me at least why she got upset and said "I don't know how you feel." When he told her he liked her and their relationship she said "give me something other than like." Not to mention that preview we got of her crying and saying she should have known it wouldn't be easy and nothing is a fairy tale, we got little snippets of it in the episode and it was because of Josh. When she let go Cody she said, "I would rather feel the heart break I felt last night (speaking of the incident with Josh) then make anyone else hurt." In my opinion, it certainly seemed like she was upset not just because of his dislike for the lie detector test, but also because she didn't know how he felt. Considering Marcus told her he was in love with her, Nick said he was falling in love with her, and Chris was the one writing her those letters gushing about her and his feelings for her, it seemed to me like she was upset she wasn't getting that from Josh.

[Catdwoman50]

^^ Two ways to look at this, IMO: Andi wants to be sure of who to take to HTDs perhaps she wants them all on even footing so she can compare apples to apples (wink). However, the alternative is that Andi seems to have a type A very competitive personality. She wants to win - she's won 3 and want to ensure Josh too is a win prior to HTDs, so she will give him a 1on1 the following week to see if he's a sure thing.

[Guest]

Has anyone been this overly confident about their connection with the lead in the hx of this show and become F1?

[Ash2214]

^ Yes, in the synopsis for next week it clearly says "Andi needs one more thing from Josh" and I happen to think she wants him to spill his feelings for her and that would certainly tie in with last weeks episode.

[Hotmomma]

Has anyone been this overly confident about their connection with the lead in the hx of this show and become F1?

Courtney for one!

[Kashathediva]

^ I definitely thought so. That's why it seemed to me at least why she got upset and said "I don't know how you feel." When he told her he liked her and their relationship she said "give me something other than like." Not to mention that preview we got of her crying and saying she should have known it wouldn't be easy and nothing is a fairy tale, we got little snippets of it in the episode and it was because of Josh. When she let go Cody she said, "I would rather feel the heart break I felt last night (speaking of the incident with Josh) then make anyone else hurt." In my opinion, it certainly seemed like she was upset not just because of his dislike for the lie detector test, but also because she didn't know how he felt. Considering Marcus told her he was in love with her, Nick said he was falling in love with her, and Chris was the one writing her those letters gushing about her and his feelings for her, it seemed to me like she was upset she wasn't getting that from Josh.  

I am glad you brought this over--the bolded. 
I remember when hearing this, that these words were going to come back and haunt her. It should be interesting to see the inner turmoil she goes through (I am thinking of Jason Mesnick in particular at his FRC) with the F2 and letting him go. 
To me, this was foreshadowing of the FRC. Maybe she will let the F2 go before hand? That would be the honorable thing to do after saying this--like Ali did with Chris L. 
There has been so much focus this season on honesty and trust and then focusing on Meandi herself having failed the poly with 2 questions. They could have left that on the cutting room floor. 
If she allows that F2 gentleman to get down one one knee and propose--not so good. 
 

[Alanna]

^ I definitely thought so. That's why it seemed to me at least why she got upset and said "I don't know how you feel." When he told her he liked her and their relationship she said "give me something other than like." Not to mention that preview we got of her crying and saying she should have known it wouldn't be easy and nothing is a fairy tale, we got little snippets of it in the episode and it was because of Josh. When she let go Cody she said, "I would rather feel the heart break I felt last night (speaking of the incident with Josh) then make anyone else hurt." In my opinion, it certainly seemed like she was upset not just because of his dislike for the lie detector test, but also because she didn't know how he felt. Considering Marcus told her he was in love with her, Nick said he was falling in love with her, and Chris was the one writing her those letters gushing about her and his feelings for her, it seemed to me like she was upset she wasn't getting that from Josh.  

I am glad you brought this over--the bolded. 
I remember when hearing this, that these words were going to come back and haunt her. It should be interesting to see the inner turmoil she goes through (I am thinking of Jason Mesnick in particular at his FRC) with the F2 and letting him go. 
To me, this was foreshadowing of the FRC. Maybe she will let the F2 go before hand? That would be the honorable thing to do after saying this--like Ali did with Chris L. 
There has been so much focus this season on honesty and trust and then focusing on Meandi herself having failed the poly with 2 questions. They could have left that on the cutting room floor. 
If she allows that F2 gentleman to get down one one knee and propose--not so good. 
 

Pretty sure they would do their best to get Nick to propose. Why not?? It's better tv and he does absolutely everything else as told by tptb and is already so confident and thinks the show is over week 6.

[Hotmomma]

When Andi said that after letting Cody go.did you see her say that or was that a VO?

Kasha you bring up a good point going back to the airplane video. When nick said about Jason's season.makes me wonder If she didn't let him go early and he tried one time going back to her.

[Cecilia]

The only way I see Nick not proposing is if she doesn't give him a chance to.

[cindebugg]

^^ Two ways to look at this, IMO: Andi wants to be sure of who to take to HTDs perhaps she wants them all on even footing so she can compare apples to apples (wink).  However, the alternative is that Andi seems to have a type A very competitive personality.  She wants to win - she's won 3 and want to ensure Josh too is a win prior to HTDs, so she will give him a 1on1 the following week to see if he's a sure thing.

I might believe the bold if I didn't know that Andi had to give TPTB her 4 for HTD's at least 2 weeks ago. It didn't matter if Josh said ILY or not he was getting a HTD. He may or may not tell her ILY on their 1-1 but Josh doesn't seem the type who's going to say that during the small amount of alone time they get during a GD.

[Kashathediva]

^ I definitely thought so. That's why it seemed to me at least why she got upset and said "I don't know how you feel." When he told her he liked her and their relationship she said "give me something other than like." Not to mention that preview we got of her crying and saying she should have known it wouldn't be easy and nothing is a fairy tale, we got little snippets of it in the episode and it was because of Josh. When she let go Cody she said, "I would rather feel the heart break I felt last night (speaking of the incident with Josh) then make anyone else hurt." In my opinion, it certainly seemed like she was upset not just because of his dislike for the lie detector test, but also because she didn't know how he felt. Considering Marcus told her he was in love with her, Nick said he was falling in love with her, and Chris was the one writing her those letters gushing about her and his feelings for her, it seemed to me like she was upset she wasn't getting that from Josh.  

I am glad you brought this over--the bolded. 
I remember when hearing this, that these words were going to come back and haunt her. It should be interesting to see the inner turmoil she goes through (I am thinking of Jason Mesnick in particular at his FRC) with the F2 and letting him go. 
To me, this was foreshadowing of the FRC. Maybe she will let the F2 go before hand? That would be the honorable thing to do after saying this--like Ali did with Chris L. 
There has been so much focus this season on honesty and trust and then focusing on Meandi herself having failed the poly with 2 questions. They could have left that on the cutting room floor. 
If she allows that F2 gentleman to get down one one knee and propose--not so good. 
 

Pretty sure they would do their best to get Nick to propose. Why not?? It's better tv and he does absolutely everything else as told by tptb and is already so confident and thinks the show is over week 6.

Absolutely. Of course. 1000% agree with the bolded. This is a given.
But the main does have some choice here. Over and over again. Ali did it. Emily did it. I have forgotten--didn't Des do it, too? They did not have a F2 propose. 
This will not reflect well on Meandi if she chooses to go through with 2 proposals. Ashley bent to the will of the machine and this was one of the main things she was criticized about. Meanna was raked over the coals for allowing this from a single dad! 
Meandi actually surprised me by doing the polygraph. I give her kudos for it- it was honorable doing what she was asking of the men. When she shared her results--kudos!! 
So I am thinking she might let the F2 go. It would be consistent with the theme of honor, trust etc. 
Can't wait for those scs.  

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