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Post by BachfanNY Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:21 pm

jlccaz wrote:Thoughts on the couple ... unapologetically biased by my own status as  "Lady Lawyer**", 25 year anniversary this year with Law and with Husband:

1.  She needs him.  He will keep her in line, in a good humored/unconditional/committed way.  We Lady Lawyer types need that Alpha partner to keep us from running all over our mates with our "bossiness" in the long haul.  Someone to make us laugh, tell us "heck, no", etc.

2.  Sheryl Sandberg, Lean In book has great, apt chapter about finding the right partner, and the determinative and often unforeseen impact this has on our ambition, advancement, balancing, etc.  You need to come home at night to that person who no matter what stress/challenge you bring home from work, on those days when you are consumed by "Imposter Syndrome" feelings, just looks at you with love and says (as my husband would) "Those F#$(^*er's."  Always on my team, I can't do any wrong.  So my batteries are recharged.  You can see Josh really wants to play that role.  He gets what family/partner means.

3.  Lasting mutual attraction.... seems like a 10 on the 10-point scale was going on there.

4.  He is whipped. Period.  On that bench in Santo Domingo we all could see Josh has the submissive expression and bright red ears last seen on JP Rosenbaum.  He has no reservations, in his own mind, he's basically married to her already and she's a "Murray."  

5.   She makes him fit back into to his (all-important for him)  family all over again.  As a couple.  A new identity, instead of the Big Brother Whose Own Sports Career Disappointed.  A fresh start at the perfect time.  

6.  Long term, he will fit not just emotionally -- he is her intellectual peer -- book-smart and driven.  He will be able to hold her interest.  He is building a successful business (not much discussed, because that wouldn't be in his or Capstone's interest) advising athletes on saving/investing money.  (By the way, this is a huge unmet need and priority both for the NCAA and the NFL Players Association.)  

7.  So, for this and many other reasons, if she doesn't grab the brass ring, and stay in Atlanta where they both fit, and do something NOT Hollywood, I reserve the right to fly out there and slap her myself.  

**When I told my grandfather (he lived to 100, and practiced law well into his 90's) that I too was going to law school, like him and my Dad and my uncle and my brother etc. He said "Oh.  [long contemplative pause] Well, I do see a few Lady Lawyers down at the court house these days, so good for you."  At the time, I smiled at the alliterative/anachronistic phrase "Lady Lawyers" but did feel that worry that I was getting into a career where I would be judged/noticed for gender not merit ... but my husband, then boyfriend, just turned it around, and has latched onto the phrase ever since in the best way, as in "you're not just ANY Lawyer.  You're a LADY Lawyer."  So, therefore, Extra Special, more formidable!  (see ... partner support matters).

Awesome post! ...and I personally reserve the right to hold down Andi while you slap away.

Good news is I don't think it will ever come to that  giggling
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Post by Alanna Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:25 pm

BachfanNY wrote:
jlccaz wrote:Thoughts on the couple ... unapologetically biased by my own status as  "Lady Lawyer**", 25 year anniversary this year with Law and with Husband:

1.  She needs him.  He will keep her in line, in a good humored/unconditional/committed way.  We Lady Lawyer types need that Alpha partner to keep us from running all over our mates with our "bossiness" in the long haul.  Someone to make us laugh, tell us "heck, no", etc.

2.  Sheryl Sandberg, Lean In book has great, apt chapter about finding the right partner, and the determinative and often unforeseen impact this has on our ambition, advancement, balancing, etc.  You need to come home at night to that person who no matter what stress/challenge you bring home from work, on those days when you are consumed by "Imposter Syndrome" feelings, just looks at you with love and says (as my husband would) "Those F#$(^*er's."  Always on my team, I can't do any wrong.  So my batteries are recharged.  You can see Josh really wants to play that role.  He gets what family/partner means.

3.  Lasting mutual attraction.... seems like a 10 on the 10-point scale was going on there.

4.  He is whipped. Period.  On that bench in Santo Domingo we all could see Josh has the submissive expression and bright red ears last seen on JP Rosenbaum.  He has no reservations, in his own mind, he's basically married to her already and she's a "Murray."  

5.   She makes him fit back into to his (all-important for him)  family all over again.  As a couple.  A new identity, instead of the Big Brother Whose Own Sports Career Disappointed.  A fresh start at the perfect time.  

6.  Long term, he will fit not just emotionally -- he is her intellectual peer -- book-smart and driven.  He will be able to hold her interest.  He is building a successful business (not much discussed, because that wouldn't be in his or Capstone's interest) advising athletes on saving/investing money.  (By the way, this is a huge unmet need and priority both for the NCAA and the NFL Players Association.)  

7.  So, for this and many other reasons, if she doesn't grab the brass ring, and stay in Atlanta where they both fit, and do something NOT Hollywood, I reserve the right to fly out there and slap her myself.  

**When I told my grandfather (he lived to 100, and practiced law well into his 90's) that I too was going to law school, like him and my Dad and my uncle and my brother etc. He said "Oh.  [long contemplative pause] Well, I do see a few Lady Lawyers down at the court house these days, so good for you."  At the time, I smiled at the alliterative/anachronistic phrase "Lady Lawyers" but did feel that worry that I was getting into a career where I would be judged/noticed for gender not merit ... but my husband, then boyfriend, just turned it around, and has latched onto the phrase ever since in the best way, as in "you're not just ANY Lawyer.  You're a LADY Lawyer."  So, therefore, Extra Special, more formidable!  (see ... partner support matters).

Awesome post! ...and I personally reserve the right to hold down Andi while you slap away.

Good news is I don't think it will ever come to that  giggling
I don't think she's that dumb either. She's found her perfect partner imo. I hope she doesn't blow it with some idiocy to run to Hollywood and seek FAHHHME.


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Post by nannymargie Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:34 pm

jlcca, I love your post and it so fits Josh and Andi. They so need each other and they are a perfect fit.


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Post by BachfanNY Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:38 pm

Alanna wrote:
BachfanNY wrote:

Awesome post! ...and I personally reserve the right to hold down Andi while you slap away.

Good news is I don't think it will ever come to that  giggling

I don't think she's that dumb either. She's found her perfect partner imo. I hope she doesn't blow it with some idiocy to run to Hollywood and seek FAHHHME.

Me either and I don't think she will.

In her Morning Blend interview she was asked if she would consider a TV gig and she said she's really proud of being a ADA and that's what she wants to do. "I'm excited to be an attorney, I worked really hard for that, I don't think anyone would want me hosting their show. That's not my forte, as they say, I should not quit my day job...I'm excited to be an attorney, I'm proud of that"
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Post by Alanna Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:42 pm

BachfanNY wrote:
Alanna wrote:
BachfanNY wrote:

Awesome post! ...and I personally reserve the right to hold down Andi while you slap away.

Good news is I don't think it will ever come to that  giggling

I don't think she's that dumb either. She's found her perfect partner imo. I hope she doesn't blow it with some idiocy to run to Hollywood and seek FAHHHME.

Me either and I don't think she will.

In her Morning Blend interview she was asked if she would consider a TV gig and she said she's really proud of being a ADA and that's what she wants to do. "I'm excited to be an attorney, I worked really hard for that, I don't think anyone would want me hosting their show. That's not my forte, as they say, I should not quit my day job...I'm excited to be an attorney, I'm proud of that"
Good, she better #$@# stick to that or ELSE....laugh out loud


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Post by cindebugg Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:02 pm

sdmom wrote:That tweet is definitely a shout out to Josh, no doubt about it. All I want now is her letting Nick go before FRC as gently as possibly.

  When Nick's edit went downhill I thought there is no way Fliess would let her send him home early.  With the preview for the finale I'm cautiously optimistic that she will.   It should be standard fare for all F2's if you ask me.  These guys are humiliated enough through out the season. There's no need to pile on at the end.


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Post by Guest Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:04 pm

cindebugg wrote:
sdmom wrote:That tweet is definitely a shout out to Josh, no doubt about it. All I want now is her letting Nick go before FRC as gently as possibly.

  When Nick's edit went downhill I thought there is no way Fliess would let her send him home early.  With the preview for the finale I'm cautiously optimistic that she will.   It should be standard fare for all F2's if you ask me.  These guys are humiliated enough through out the season. There's no need to pile on at the end.

Especially this season. Most of the group dates were humiliating.

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Post by Luvvy Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:15 pm

jlccaz, Your post is everything. I really appreciate your perspective and see yours and Andi's situations being similar.


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Post by bleuberry Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:16 pm

BachfanNY wrote:
Alanna wrote:
BachfanNY wrote:

Awesome post! ...and I personally reserve the right to hold down Andi while you slap away.

Good news is I don't think it will ever come to that  giggling

I don't think she's that dumb either. She's found her perfect partner imo. I hope she doesn't blow it with some idiocy to run to Hollywood and seek FAHHHME.

Me either and I don't think she will.

In her Morning Blend interview she was asked if she would consider a TV gig and she said she's really proud of being a ADA and that's what she wants to do. "I'm excited to be an attorney, I worked really hard for that, I don't think anyone would want me hosting their show. That's not my forte, as they say, I should not quit my day job...I'm excited to be an attorney, I'm proud of that"

But she did laugh out loud


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Post by pavalygurl Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:49 pm

jlccaz: Great post. Love the way you think/write. Happy 25 years with your Husband and the Law.

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Post by BachfanNY Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:07 pm

bleuberry wrote:
BachfanNY wrote:
Alanna wrote:

I don't think she's that dumb either. She's found her perfect partner imo. I hope she doesn't blow it with some idiocy to run to Hollywood and seek FAHHHME.

Me either and I don't think she will.

In her Morning Blend interview she was asked if she would consider a TV gig and she said she's really proud of being a ADA and that's what she wants to do. "I'm excited to be an attorney, I worked really hard for that, I don't think anyone would want me hosting their show. That's not my forte, as they say, I should not quit my day job...I'm excited to be an attorney, I'm proud of that"

But she did laugh out loud

Only temporarily  Hugesmile Sounds like she wants to get back into it as soon as her and her F1 are settled.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:45 pm

great post jlccaz! really hoping andi doesn't try to go the hollywood route. i'm thinking she won't being with josh, who seems grounded, but you never know.

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