Bachelor Canada - Season 2 - *Sleuthing - *Spoilers* - *Speculation* - Discussion

jojo47 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:^^ I personally don't 100% believe in this bar kiss. Lisa calls herself resident villain on her IG and all the girls love her post show. I felt like it was put there just to have drama and everyone did a terrible job acting other than Lisa who tried to pretend she cared about any of it. She painted Tim without a face after all.  Lol.

Who knows if she was told to kiss a guy at the bar so the other girls would see? We saw nothing on camera. They always hire half genuine half drama girls on TB (even Canada it seems). And even Sharleen expressed surprise that the girls were allowed out without cameras.

What I find odd is that if Lisa is let go before Tim meets her family then this was planned. No way Tim would stand up her family just by talking to her first. They would have to know before Tim even meets Lisa that she is gone. If she stays that's different but if she is let go then it was all preplanned just to drag it all out.

The Vespa is obviously April...imo because it's Tim and April's trademark.:
1) Group Rimmel London date with April = Tim on Motorbike/Vespathingy with April
2) Tim's TO HTD worth April = April rides on Tim's own motorcycle
3) Makes sense the Italy SC = April with Tim on Vespa... (the only other choice was Kaylynn based on hair colour and skin tone and l just dont see it being Kaylynn at all)

It keeps being said that we saw nothing on camera at the bar....how can it be on camera when it was a non filming day It was a complete day off from filming so how can it be on camera/film??

Again, all Sharleen has to go by is the american one that she was in....this is the Canadian one with different producers, production company and editors...therefore, is done differently.  What can she say anything about....she hasn't been on the Canadian one.  

We have NO idea who is on the vespa with Tim.  why Kaylynn? Why not Sachelle??  Not everything has to do with April. IMO.

Sharleen was merely expressing her disbelief that the girls got to go out on their own because that wouldn't happen in the US version. She wasn't saying that she didn't believe it happened.

Regarding the bolded, I think we'll see in the end that this season's story is mostly about April. As I see it, Trish had a romantic date in Italy so that she could be a formidable F2. I don't think we'll see Lisa or Sachelle around that much longer. I believe the final two girls will be Trish & April. However, I think we'll see alot more of April & Tim over Trish & Tim by the time the season ends. Once again, this is just my opinion.

Ok, jojo, what I was going by is that since night one, it seems that many here on this forum are all about April and Tim and I just think that there are others there. I have stated before why I think that and have brought many examples in of how I feel that to be the case from season one as that is all we really have to go on as these producers, production company and editors are completely different from the USA one and are following a different format. Therefore, I think that comparing it to season one is all we can do.

Aunties_Love wrote:

northernviewer wrote:Let's not forget that after that date with Trish - it appears he snuck off with April for a bike ride and an early morning breakfast.

We don't know it was April on that bike so assuming so is kind of wrong.  Besides, that grounds looks like the casa and if so, maybe he gave all the women a bike ride on that day off from filming?  Assuming things or trying to put things/people into situations may not be the right thing to do???  Anyhow, it was said that they had a sunrise breakfast at the casa so where does this sneaking off with April even come from??  

April is the only one that alluded that something else happened, other than what we saw or heard, so I think it's a safe assumption ... yes, just an assumption on my part ... that she was the one that had some extra curricular activities with Tim. Kaylynn would have brought it up in her blog... and so would Sachelle.. and going on the fact that he let Kaylynn go and Sachelle him pretty much ended their date with a handshake.. again, I don't feel like I'm going overboard in assuming it's April on the Vespa. All I know by the hair is that it wasn't Trish or Lisa but it was included in the preview footage, so I think it's significant, even though not shown in the episode.. kinda like April and Tim on the swing

northernviewer wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

northernviewer wrote:Let's not forget that after that date with Trish - it appears he snuck off with April for a bike ride and an early morning breakfast.

We don't know it was April on that bike so assuming so is kind of wrong.  Besides, that grounds looks like the casa and if so, maybe he gave all the women a bike ride on that day off from filming?  Assuming things or trying to put things/people into situations may not be the right thing to do???  Anyhow, it was said that they had a sunrise breakfast at the casa so where does this sneaking off with April even come from??  

April is the only one that alluded that something else happened, other than what we saw or heard, so I think it's a safe assumption ... yes, just an assumption on my part   ... that she was the one that had some extra curricular activities with Tim.   Kaylynn would have brought it up in her blog... and so would Sachelle.. and going on the fact that he let Kaylynn go and Sachelle him pretty much ended their date with a handshake.. again, I don't feel like I'm going overboard in assuming it's April on the Vespa.  All I know by the hair is that it wasn't Trish or Lisa but it was included in the preview footage, so I think it's significant, even though not shown in the episode.. kinda like April and Tim on the swing  

I agree!

northernviewer wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

northernviewer wrote:Let's not forget that after that date with Trish - it appears he snuck off with April for a bike ride and an early morning breakfast.

We don't know it was April on that bike so assuming so is kind of wrong.  Besides, that grounds looks like the casa and if so, maybe he gave all the women a bike ride on that day off from filming?  Assuming things or trying to put things/people into situations may not be the right thing to do???  Anyhow, it was said that they had a sunrise breakfast at the casa so where does this sneaking off with April even come from??  

April is the only one that alluded that something else happened, other than what we saw or heard, so I think it's a safe assumption ... yes, just an assumption on my part   ... that she was the one that had some extra curricular activities with Tim.   Kaylynn would have brought it up in her blog... and so would Sachelle.. and going on the fact that he let Kaylynn go and Sachelle him pretty much ended their date with a handshake.. again, I don't feel like I'm going overboard in assuming it's April on the Vespa.  All I know by the hair is that it wasn't Trish or Lisa but it was included in the preview footage, so I think it's significant, even though not shown in the episode.. kinda like April and Tim on the swing  

She only mentioned the breakfast at the casa. Not going out for anything on their own, etc. so I think it's entirely possible that it is someone else on that vespa. But again, there was no filming one day and I think it could be ANYONE on that vespa with dark hair. It doesn't have to be APRIL.

Aunties_Love wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
We don't know it was April on that bike so assuming so is kind of wrong.  Besides, that grounds looks like the casa and if so, maybe he gave all the women a bike ride on that day off from filming?  Assuming things or trying to put things/people into situations may not be the right thing to do???  Anyhow, it was said that they had a sunrise breakfast at the casa so where does this sneaking off with April even come from??  

April is the only one that alluded that something else happened, other than what we saw or heard, so I think it's a safe assumption ... yes, just an assumption on my part   ... that she was the one that had some extra curricular activities with Tim.   Kaylynn would have brought it up in her blog... and so would Sachelle.. and going on the fact that he let Kaylynn go and Sachelle him pretty much ended their date with a handshake.. again, I don't feel like I'm going overboard in assuming it's April on the Vespa.  All I know by the hair is that it wasn't Trish or Lisa but it was included in the preview footage, so I think it's significant, even though not shown in the episode.. kinda like April and Tim on the swing  

She only mentioned the breakfast at the casa.  Not going out for anything on their own, etc. so I think it's entirely possible that it is someone else on that vespa.  But again, there was no filming  one day and I think it could be ANYONE on that vespa with dark hair.  It doesn't have to be APRIL.

She never said they had breakfast at the casa.. or are you just assuming they did because you don't want to think that they might have went elsewhere?

northernviewer wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

April is the only one that alluded that something else happened, other than what we saw or heard, so I think it's a safe assumption ... yes, just an assumption on my part   ... that she was the one that had some extra curricular activities with Tim.   Kaylynn would have brought it up in her blog... and so would Sachelle.. and going on the fact that he let Kaylynn go and Sachelle him pretty much ended their date with a handshake.. again, I don't feel like I'm going overboard in assuming it's April on the Vespa.  All I know by the hair is that it wasn't Trish or Lisa but it was included in the preview footage, so I think it's significant, even though not shown in the episode.. kinda like April and Tim on the swing  

She only mentioned the breakfast at the casa.  Not going out for anything on their own, etc. so I think it's entirely possible that it is someone else on that vespa.  But again, there was no filming  one day and I think it could be ANYONE on that vespa with dark hair.  It doesn't have to be APRIL.

She never said they had breakfast at the casa.. or are you just assuming they did because you don't want to think that they might have went elsewhere?

**Edited**


THis is what she said:

Casa Buitoni was enchanting along with its stunning views and breakfast beside Tim at sunrise overlooking rolling Tuscan hills was lovely.


What do you take from that??

ETA:

No I am not ASSUMING anything. I am going word for word what she said. She never said anything about leaving the casa, but did say about having a sunrise breakfast with Tim overlooking the view.

I think by what she said, it would be assumptions involved to say that they left the casa.

Aunties_Love wrote:

jojo47 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
It keeps being said that we saw nothing on camera at the bar....how can it be on camera when it was a non filming day It was a complete day off from filming so how can it be on camera/film??

Again, all Sharleen has to go by is the american one that she was in....this is the Canadian one with different producers, production company and editors...therefore, is done differently.  What can she say anything about....she hasn't been on the Canadian one.  

We have NO idea who is on the vespa with Tim.  why Kaylynn? Why not Sachelle??  Not everything has to do with April. IMO.

Sharleen was merely expressing her disbelief that the girls got to go out on their own because that wouldn't happen in the US version. She wasn't saying that she didn't believe it happened.

Regarding the bolded, I think we'll see in the end that this season's story is mostly about April. As I see it, Trish had a romantic date in Italy so that she could be a formidable F2. I don't think we'll see Lisa or Sachelle around that much longer. I believe the final two girls will be Trish & April. However, I think we'll see alot more of April & Tim over Trish & Tim by the time the season ends. Once again, this is just my opinion.

Ok, jojo, what I was going by is that since night one, it seems that many here on this forum are all about April and Tim and I just think that there are others there.  I have stated before why I think that and have brought many examples in of how I feel that to be the case from season one as that is all we really have to go on as these producers, production company and editors are completely different from the USA one and are following a different format.  Therefore, I think that comparing it to season one is all we can do.

Auntie, I do agree that our comparator is season one. What I learned from season one is that the Canadian version of The Bachelor is interested in showing a love story. Don't get me wrong, they show the drama as well, but they do let us see the love story.

In season one, the love story between Brad & Bianka didn't really start until their date in Mexico (epi 4 I believe). But after Mexico, it was my opinion that Brad was all in for Bianka. However, he still had a connection & relationships with some of the other women, including Whitney. It was just different than his connection to Bianka. This season, I see Tim having an immediate (like epi 1 immediate) connection with April & this is the relationship he is interested in really pursuing & growing. He has connections with other women, including Trish, but it just isn't the same as what I see with April. This is the love story I see the editors showing us this season.

Having said that, I know there are interactions between Tim & the women we aren't seeing. We aren't seeing everything with Trish, Lisa, Kaylynn & Sachelle. We are also not seeing everything with April. Here again, this is my opinion only, but I think what we're seeing with Tim's interest in April is equally as powerful as Brad's interest in Bianka.

The editors aren't exclusively telling a story of Tim's relationship with April; we're seeing his connection with the other women as well. I guess we all just interpret differently what his relationship is with each of the women.

Aunties_Love wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
She only mentioned the breakfast at the casa.  Not going out for anything on their own, etc. so I think it's entirely possible that it is someone else on that vespa.  But again, there was no filming  one day and I think it could be ANYONE on that vespa with dark hair.  It doesn't have to be APRIL.

She never said they had breakfast at the casa.. or are you just assuming they did because you don't want to think that they might have went elsewhere?

**Edited**


THis is what she said:

Casa Buitoni was enchanting along with its stunning views and breakfast beside Tim at sunrise overlooking rolling Tuscan hills was lovely.


What do you take from that??

the AND could be an either or situation. Open to interpretation IMO

see2love wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
We don't know it was April on that bike so assuming so is kind of wrong.  Besides, that grounds looks like the casa and if so, maybe he gave all the women a bike ride on that day off from filming?  Assuming things or trying to put things/people into situations may not be the right thing to do???  Anyhow, it was said that they had a sunrise breakfast at the casa so where does this sneaking off with April even come from??  

April is the only one that alluded that something else happened, other than what we saw or heard, so I think it's a safe assumption ... yes, just an assumption on my part   ... that she was the one that had some extra curricular activities with Tim.   Kaylynn would have brought it up in her blog... and so would Sachelle.. and going on the fact that he let Kaylynn go and Sachelle him pretty much ended their date with a handshake.. again, I don't feel like I'm going overboard in assuming it's April on the Vespa.  All I know by the hair is that it wasn't Trish or Lisa but it was included in the preview footage, so I think it's significant, even though not shown in the episode.. kinda like April and Tim on the swing  

I agree! April also talked about romantic connection Italy and i am sure she wasnt talking about Tim's date with other girls. This also reminds me of a voiceover of April in the season preview "something about falling n lve in romantic italy" not verbatim

I am sorry for being the bummer around here, but I don't see anything in her blog about the romantic connection:

April's whole blog:

Our time in Italy wasn’t exactly how I expected it to be. Painting Tim nearly naked in the middle of a quaint and charming little town definitely gave us some laughs that were much needed.

Casa Buitoni was enchanting along with its stunning views and breakfast beside Tim at sunrise overlooking rolling Tuscan hills was lovely. However our stay in Tuscany felt a lot like being in the most incredibly romantic setting with something killing the mood.

Oh, that’s right… tensions were rising and that was inevitable, but the incident that occurred was unexpected and by having feelings invested in Tim I’m feeling the effects of that situation. It’s been a difficult and rainy week in Tuscany, and all I can do is trust this process and focus only on what I feel between Tim and me.

It could be either or situation. She's describing her stay at Casa Buitoni then breakfast.

What I want to know is why she chose the word "beside".

^ I thought it was interesting that she said "breakfast beside Tim" versus saying "breakfast with Tim and the girls" so I think the way she wrote it more so point to breakfast with just Tim, especially since not a single other girl mentioned it. Then we have th SC of a girl on the moped in Italy. It's just my personal opinion, but that leads me to believe April had some private time with Tim.

GuardianAngel wrote:It could be either or situation. She's describing her stay at Casa Buitoni then breakfast.

What I want to know is why she chose the word "beside".

I understand that April is saying more in her blogs about the backstory of what they do, but in season 1, we had Whitney state onscreen the backstory of that season. That is the parallel that I am getting. To me, I feel that there were more having breakfast than just them. There was made known during interviews, etc of how Tim and the women ate, tavelled and spent more time together than we saw. This was also true of season 1 and was in an interview with Brad.