*NO SPOILERS* The Bachelorette 10 Screen Caps Analysis *Discussion*

alwaystulips wrote:Great job on trying to figure out when Nick goes home, GG!  I'm not great at locations either, and who knows, it could've been raining on the same day, but at a time different than when she's crying in the screencaps.  It's so hard to pinpoint.

Litta, thank you for the video!  Besides the comment about naming a dog Murray, the line that I can't believe he said was "The only really great job she's done is kept me around".

Andi hasn't done anything else great?  Why would someone who's in love and planning to marry her say that, even in jest, to another guy?  IMO, it's belittling and negative about her, even more than to Brian.  Now, I totally get why they took it down.

I'm sure you are doing great work on the twitter sleuthing, too.  I'm not reading that only because I think it would tempt me to look at more SM and get spoiled.  But, I'll bet there's some funny stuff out there!

I forgot all about that originally. It's beyond annoying to me and when he said "Josh would be terrible for her" I wonder how he really would know. Josh and Nick were only on 1/2 of a GD together (BB episode 4) so how would he know anything about how they are together. Now that I think about it I wonder if when Andi sends him home if he will try to throw Josh under the bus and tell her that he is no good for her or maybe that is what the letter is about. All I can say is I hope not! However, this video makes me question him.

Fist off thanks jlccaz for the weather site.  That is very helpful. And to all the spoiled posters coming in and telling us how much you enjoy seeing our unspoiled sleuthing thanks.  It is definitely harder for us since we have limited people to figure everything out and can't go a lot of places for fear of being spoiled.

OK so on to the rain.  So I will work back from the FRC since we know that was on the 9th.  Let's assume a day off before the FRC (planned or unplanned due to weather) and the MTP on the same day (or maybe they were the 4th and 5th).  I though the MTP had been on the same day in the past, but I can't be sure.  So the schedule would be like this:

May 5 - MTP (no rain)
May 6 - LCD #1 - Nick (no rain)
May 7 - LCD #2 - Josh (rain 12-3) - Not enough to affect the activity.  According to the 1mm total AT's info shows that is more of a passing sprinkle that anything.
May 8 - Day Off (thunderstorm 2pm) - Thunderstorm is in the middle of the day.  In total they get about 1/2" of rain going by AT's info so that seems to align more with the rain we see puddling up as she is leaving (or going to) the break up.  My guess is leaving from the breakup as the accommodations don't seem to be that of the lead IMO.
May 9 - FRC (rain 1-4, thunderstorm after sunset) Again according to AT's info that shows no rain it must have been less than .5mm so that wouldn't be the rain we see during the breakup I don't think.  Also at that time I would assume she would be getting ready for the FRC.

Sunset for the FRC is at 7pm so they would likely want to wrap up shooting by 6pm.  My guess is that the F1 would arrive around 5pm.

From the rainfall amounts by day that AT provided the only day that makes sense with the SC for the breakup is May 8th.  Since it was at 2pm it either had to be a day off or in between the day and night portion of Josh's date (I really don't see that as a scenario). We can see her on the night portion of her LCD with Nick so it has to be a day or two after their LCD.

Maybe an off day is unusually, but with the thunderstorm they pushed it off a day? What does everyone think? I'm sure there safe holes on my theory I'm not considering so have at it! Of course my assumption that it is Nick being let go is based off my analysis of the couches (plus what I see every Monday).

A new SC from a TV promo.

(credit to momoftrips)


Don't know if this helps in your sluething in any way...

Sarah_XV wrote:A new SC from a TV promo.

(credit to momoftrips)


Don't know if this helps in your sluething in any way...

Oh wow Sarah and MOT thank you!  Wow that makes it even more definitive the crying couch and Nick's couch are a match.  I've had ABC on all day waiting for a new promo.

GrahamGal wrote:Fist off thanks jlccaz for the weather site.  That is very helpful. And to all the spoiled posters coming in and telling us how much you enjoy seeing our unspoiled sleuthing thanks.  It is definitely harder for us since we have limited people to figure everything out and can't go a lot of places for fear of being spoiled.

OK so on to the rain.  So I will work back from the FRC since we know that was on the 9th.  Let's assume a day off before the FRC (planned or unplanned due to weather) and the MTP on the same day (or maybe they were the 4th and 5th).  I though the MTP had been on the same day in the past, but I can't be sure.  So the schedule would be like this:

May 5 - MTP (no rain)
May 6 - LCD #1 - Nick (no rain)
May 7 - LCD #2 - Josh (rain 12-3) - Not enough to affect the activity.  According to the 1mm total AT's info shows that is more of a passing sprinkle that anything.
May 8 - Day Off (thunderstorm 2pm) - Thunderstorm is in the middle of the day.  In total they get about 1/2" of rain going by AT's info so that seems to align more with the rain we see puddling up as she is leaving (or going to) the break up.  My guess is leaving from the breakup as the accommodations don't seem to be that of the lead IMO.
May 9 - FRC (rain 1-4, thunderstorm after sunset) Again according to AT's info that shows no rain it must have been less than .5mm so that wouldn't be the rain we see during the breakup I don't think.  Also at that time I would assume she would be getting ready for the FRC.

Sunset for the FRC is at 7pm so they would likely want to wrap up shooting by 6pm.  My guess is that the F1 would arrive around 5pm.

From the rainfall amounts by day that AT provided the only day that makes sense with the SC for the breakup is May 8th.  Since it was at 2pm it either had to be a day off or in between the day and night portion of Josh's date (I really don't see that as a scenario). We can see her on the night portion of her LCD with Nick so it has to be a day or two after their LCD.

Maybe an off day is unusually, but with the thunderstorm they pushed it off a day?  What does everyone think?  I'm sure there safe holes on my theory I'm not considering so have at it!  Of course my assumption that it is Nick being let go is based off my analysis of the couches (plus what I see every Monday).

Awesome sleuthing, GG!  I tried to lay this out and couldn't make it work.  Yes, I can see the breakup being on May 8 using all the info you've analzyed.  I don't think she'd do it between day and night dates with Josh either with so little time.  It seems out of character for her to rush such an important talk, so if May 8 was an off day, that totally makes sense.

I am seeing Nicks red shirt in the very teeny bottom left corner of her crying picture 2 posts up. I assume that has been noticed?

lstiff wrote:I am seeing Nicks red shirt in the very teeny bottom left corner of her crying picture 2 posts up. I assume that has been noticed?

Hi lstiff!  

I noticed it, but it is a different day. Not sure if it's a shirt or a pillow. It doesn't appear to move at all and the fabric appears to be thicker than clothing. It seems more like fabric you would find on a pillow, but I can't be 100% sure.

Wasn't there another sc with Andi kissing Nick on the LCD that had that same red fabric that looked like a pointy tip of a pillow? I maybe thinking of something else so I'm not sure.

GrahamGal wrote:

Sarah_XV wrote:A new SC from a TV promo.

(credit to momoftrips)


Don't know if this helps in your sluething in any way...

Oh wow Sarah and MOT thank you!  Wow that makes it even more definitive the crying couch and Nick's couch are a match.  I've had ABC on all day waiting for a new promo.

Quoting myself because I wanted to see what others think about what I am seeing in these SCs.

At first I was only focusing on the couch.  Those are an exact match and absolutely different than Josh's couch.

However, the chair in the back seems to be different in color.  To me I think it's just the lighting.  Natural rainy day lighting vs  artificial lighting at night.  Both chairs have the same rectangular section in the back and because of the angle you can see though it during the LCD sc but not during the crying sc.  Does anyone see something differently?

Also the plants seem different, but again we are seeing it at much different angles and Andi's head is getting in the way.  The part of the plant that is to the left in the LCD sc appears to be similar to the shadow on the wall during the crying sc.  What does everyone else think?

I still say this is Nick's room and it's just the angles and lighting that are throwing things off.  The couch and the glass top table is the same as well as the chair. We know the angles are different because of where their chins line up with the glass table.

I hope what I'm saying makes sense.  It does to me. 

pander3575 wrote:Wasn't there another sc with Andi kissing Nick on the LCD that had that same red fabric that looked like a pointy tip of a pillow?  I maybe thinking of something else so I'm not sure.

This one? Yes I would say it looks like a red or orange pillow in the right corner of this sc that matches the one we see in the left corner of the crying sc. Thanks!

GG, you are on fire today!! ITA the table is an exact match and the only thing keeping the chair in back from looking identical are the shadows!!

One chair looks dark (Nick's) and the other looks brown (Andi's), can lighting do that ?