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Post by stuckinsc Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:41 pm

You mentioned in the non discussion forum how much of Nikki and JPG had been left out. I noticed that too. In the FD episode it was really obvious to me that they cut out a lot of Nikki to show they Andi showdown. In the LCD they hardly showed any of Nikki and JPG except a little uncomfortable silence.

They made sure to show him playing the song to Clare, which while I like JPG, I can say that some of the things he said to Clare on the LCD were misleading. Every lead does it, but I like to be fair and I understood her being upset after he talked about having a baby with Clare, etc. I guess to me, it was Nikki before that, but I thought with those words maybe he was going to pull a Charlie and as to date them both. I wonder if we had seen more of the Nikki and JPG LCD if it would have made it too obvious that Nikki was it? And also made JPG seem like less of a bad guy, which we know by then was part of what they were doing.
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Post by notarose Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:51 pm

stuckinsc wrote:You mentioned in the non discussion forum how much of Nikki and JPG had been left out.  I noticed that too. In the FD episode it was really obvious to me that they cut out a lot of Nikki to show they Andi showdown.  In the LCD they hardly showed any of Nikki and JPG except a little uncomfortable silence.

They made sure to show him playing the song to Clare, which while I like JPG, I can say that some of the things he said to Clare on the LCD were misleading.  Every lead does it, but I like to be fair and I understood her being upset after he talked about having a baby with Clare, etc.  I guess to me, it was Nikki before that, but I thought with those words maybe he was going to pull a Charlie and as to date them both.  I wonder if we had seen more of the Nikki and JPG LCD if it would have made it too obvious that Nikki was it? And also made JPG seem like less of a bad guy, which we know by then was part of what they were doing.

I think not airing the song he wrote and gave Nikki during the LCD is an example of an omission that might have provided better balance for viewers.  Agree that Clare, like many F2, are misled.  I've liked when the lead lets the F2 go early like Ali did.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/03/09/bachelor-juan-pablo-nikki-deleted-scene/

Unfortunately, editing chopped this scene up as well using ITMS instead of just giving us more like how they ended up in the bedroom or what was said when the song ended.
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Post by Isabel123 Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:08 pm

notarose wrote:
stuckinsc wrote:You mentioned in the non discussion forum how much of Nikki and JPG had been left out.  I noticed that too. In the FD episode it was really obvious to me that they cut out a lot of Nikki to show they Andi showdown.  In the LCD they hardly showed any of Nikki and JPG except a little uncomfortable silence.

They made sure to show him playing the song to Clare, which while I like JPG, I can say that some of the things he said to Clare on the LCD were misleading.  Every lead does it, but I like to be fair and I understood her being upset after he talked about having a baby with Clare, etc.  I guess to me, it was Nikki before that, but I thought with those words maybe he was going to pull a Charlie and as to date them both.  I wonder if we had seen more of the Nikki and JPG LCD if it would have made it too obvious that Nikki was it? And also made JPG seem like less of a bad guy, which we know by then was part of what they were doing.

I think not airing the song he wrote and gave Nikki during the LCD is an example of an omission that might have provided better balance for viewers.  Agree that Clare, like many F2, are misled.  I've liked when the lead lets the F2 go early like Ali did.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/03/09/bachelor-juan-pablo-nikki-deleted-scene/

Unfortunately, editing chopped this scene up as well using ITMS instead of just giving us more like how they ended up in the bedroom or what was said when the song ended.

After seeing the raw vid on the 2NE1 concert , reading Renee's interview and these deleted scenes, i must say the one shown on tv was edited according to the story board. Renee's interview is very enlightening. The show made it appear that she's in love with JPG which in fact she's not in real life.
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Post by stuckinsc Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:09 pm

notarose wrote:
stuckinsc wrote:You mentioned in the non discussion forum how much of Nikki and JPG had been left out.  I noticed that too. In the FD episode it was really obvious to me that they cut out a lot of Nikki to show they Andi showdown.  In the LCD they hardly showed any of Nikki and JPG except a little uncomfortable silence.

They made sure to show him playing the song to Clare, which while I like JPG, I can say that some of the things he said to Clare on the LCD were misleading.  Every lead does it, but I like to be fair and I understood her being upset after he talked about having a baby with Clare, etc.  I guess to me, it was Nikki before that, but I thought with those words maybe he was going to pull a Charlie and as to date them both.  I wonder if we had seen more of the Nikki and JPG LCD if it would have made it too obvious that Nikki was it? And also made JPG seem like less of a bad guy, which we know by then was part of what they were doing.

I think not airing the song he wrote and gave Nikki during the LCD is an example of an omission that might have provided better balance for viewers.  Agree that Clare, like many F2, are misled.  I've liked when the lead lets the F2 go early like Ali did.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/03/09/bachelor-juan-pablo-nikki-deleted-scene/

Unfortunately, editing chopped this scene up as well using ITMS instead of just giving us more like how they ended up in the bedroom or what was said when the song ended.

Totally agree, I had watched JPG sing the song to Nikki and knew she was it, but watching the edited finale, they sure left a lot on the floor.  I know all F2s are mislead.  They have to be, but I think for some it is harder than others.  I remember Meredith telling Matthew she would be honored to get a ring from him.  I actually think the more honest the lead, the more they screw up on LCD in misleading the F2 since it doesn't come as naturally to them to lie.
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Post by Isabel123 Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:21 pm

A funny take on JPG's tweet about her novia .... giggling 

Nikki Ferrell Blows a Hot Guy a Kiss — How'd Juan Pablo Respond?

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We would think that, when you’re as hot as Juan Pablo Galavis is, you can say bye bye bye to ever feeling intimidated by another guy. But apparently, even a former Bachelor can start to compare himself to the competition, as Juan Pabs learned when Nikki Ferrell recently blew a kiss to another man.

Juan Pablo and Nikki took a road trip along the Cali coast to San Francisco this week. But it seems that their selection of driving music might have caused a little drama. On April 24, JPG tweeted, “Ok, so WHAT does a boyfriend supposed to DO when his NOVIA blows a kiss to the car RADIO while @jtimberlake is ON?” And when one of his Twitter followers joked that he should start singing better, Juan Pablo quipped, “jajajaja thats IMPOSSIBLE… #JTKillsIt.”

OK, so we don’t really think Juan Pablo has anything to worry about, given that Justin is very happily married to the ever-fetching Jessica Biel. Plus, if you ask us, Juan Pablo can bring sexy back with the best of them. But we love that Juan Pablo has a great sense of humor and is so quick to poke fun at himself.

Now, we can’t wait to find out more about what Nikki and Juan Pablo do while they’re in the Bay Area. And don’t worry, Juan Pablo — we blew more than our fair share of kisses at our TV screens whenever your episodes of The Bachelor aired.
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Post by notarose Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:37 pm

Does anyone know if it's typical for media to NOT report on a current or not-so-long-ago bachelor/bachelorette doing a charity event?  It's day 2 post-tumorhaters and I haven't seen any mention.

I'm wondering if this is typical or a way for media to send a message that charities won't get coverage with JPG or Nikki.  I know JPG's charity work during the show's airing was largely "hidden".


Example
Miami Beach, FL – February 15, 2014 – 500 of Miami’s most philanthropic and influential community leaders and dedicated business professionals came together on Saturday evening to stand up against Miami-Dade’s abused, abandoned and neglected children. The Voices For Children Foundation’s 2014 Be A Voice, Empower Brilliant Futures Gala
http://worldredeye.com/2014/02/2014-be-a-voice-empower-brilliant-futures-gala/

Great job at #beavoicegala #voicesforchildren as emcee
http://iconosquare.com/viewer.php#/detail/656798137085415713_32231875

I know that sleuths found this info earlier but I don't recall media covering it as part of the JPG cycle.

He also participated in another event recently related to children in foster care due to their caregiver being incarcerated.  It wasn't a gala, more low key.  Unfortunately I can't find it again.

UPDATE: just read a Wetpaint article that did include some info on @tumorhater event in part of the piece.  
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Post by Amberish Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:02 pm

notarose,

Unless the press closely follows the charity or the donor as we're doing here, and that would be the exception because we're not talking about big charities or big celebrities, the normal process would be the press being notified by the charity or the donor, or someone representing either party (a manager, a director of the charity or a publicist), in the form of a press release.

Anyway, that's how it's done.
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Post by notarose Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:10 pm

Amberish wrote:notarose,

Unless the press closely follows the charity or the donor as we're doing here, and that would be the exception because we're not talking about big charities or big celebrities, the normal process would be the press being notified by the charity or the donor, or someone representing either party, in the form of a press release.

Anyway, that's how it's done.

Thanks. I was just wondering since most of the pics and tweet copy the celebrity media has been using the last 2 weeks have come from JPG or Nikki's accounts.

Agree that JPG is only temporarily a celebrity in the reality tv pond.
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Post by Amberish Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:33 pm

notarose wrote:
Amberish wrote:notarose,

Unless the press closely follows the charity or the donor as we're doing here, and that would be the exception because we're not talking about big charities or big celebrities, the normal process would be the press being notified by the charity or the donor, or someone representing either party, in the form of a press release.

Anyway, that's how it's done.

Thanks.  I was just wondering since most of the pics and tweet copy the celebrity media has been using the last 2 weeks have come from JPG or Nikki's accounts.

Agree that JPG is only temporarily a celebrity in the reality tv pond.

Ok, ok ... I meant the real press, not the minor online tabloids ... does that make sense? To us, they're important, but gossip rags obviously operate differently.
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Post by notarose Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:41 pm

yes  yes, Amberish. Totally agree.
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Post by sanlee088 Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:10 pm

I just spotted Juan and Nikki in the audience on DWTS!
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Post by Amberish Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:13 pm

sanlee088 wrote:I just spotted Juan and Nikki in the audience on DWTS!

I like that. Thank you Miss San. Smiley
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