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Post by Kashathediva Fri May 09, 2014 10:52 am

Thank you so much, Nd!!  Smiley 

I like having the scs (something definitive) match up with the dates.
Spoilers are always great. But having been there and done that, I still like cap reliability best.
I know this doesn't help much, but soon we will be getting more promos with scs to fill-in. Soon!
Thanks!



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Post by Aunties_Love Fri May 09, 2014 10:54 am

nd4reality wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
murasaki1393 wrote:
brittany4400 wrote:
murasaki1393 wrote:
brittany4400 wrote:Could it possibly be that Chris was intended to go home at F5 and she ha intentions to keep Brian, or whoever? Something happened and things switched? Idk, I'm talking out loud here. For all I know, Chris is the f1.

im confused. How do you know?  giggling 
Oh, I know nothing. That's the point I was trying to make there  giggling

gotcha. I too think we havent watched a F4 who only had 1 early dates prior to HTD. it definitely not the usual norm.   :yes: 
I will droll for Marcus as TB. eyedrool .but still keep my opinion on Nick and Chris until i see them in action
Jason Mesnick..Jillian only had 1 date in epi 2.  Other than that, she was on group dates.  I got a feeling, especially since we know so little about him, Chris will take some by surprise.  Am looking forward to seeing who he is.

Well to be fair, Jasons season was shorter than the seasons after it. So not many people got a chance to have second 1on1 dates.
This season seems more like Ali's season when all of the F4 get either a second 1on1 or SQT time (episode 7) dates. Possibly.
If  JJ actually does have a second 1on1 date that means at least 4 IF NOT 5 guys got special time with Andi.

ETA : The rest of my post is not directed to you Aunties but perhaps the board could pitch in to these idea.


I said this in another post but seems like Andi could well have got rid of 19 guys and kept 6 guys around on night one with the doubling up of the guys she actually spent time with. It seems strange that the producers bought into her requests when we have heard time and again that the lead does not choose who they spend time with and it is all producer driven.
RS possibly has the Venice date is wrong and possibly at least 1 more.

We normally sleuth by screencaps so that is where the analysis should start :

All we know for sure is that Marcus got a second 1on1 date. That has been proven in SCs as well. We actually don't know that JJ got a 1on1 prior to Venice.  All we have is a photograph from a distance of someone having dinner. That could be anyone. Seems like Venice is 1on1 date and not Nicks. Unless I missed the SC evidence of an actual 1on1 date prior to ep5 (the pranking date) therefore it is possible that JJ got only 1 at Venice.

Chris and Nick got 1on1 dates in ep2 and 3 respectively - proven by pictures.
Brian got had a rose prior to the RC but again we have no proof where he actually got that rose from. If there is I missed it.

We have no SCs of Josh getting a 1on1 date. I personally would assume that someone in the F3 would have got a 1on1 date but we don't have SC evidence. The   dates/roses we seem to be believing in blindly either because of RS or because the board has been told these without any proof. Could someone start and update a thread with sleuthed SCs and identify what we "know" already ? That would be helpful. TIA.

Good points made on the bolded and I do understand what you are saying. Personally, I do think that RS has some dates wrong. Will look for the proof as ti comes along in the season preview.


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Post by jcrbil Fri May 09, 2014 11:04 am

Just to reinforce the idea that things aren't always as they appear, I remember in Sean's season we thought (either because RS told us so or because the screen cap was only of her backside) that Catherine was on the rock climbing date when, in fact, it was Selma.

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Post by Hotmomma Fri May 09, 2014 11:07 am

ND that is awesome..I wish I could post SC along side your proof..I am a visual kinda gal..

Great work!
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Post by atem Fri May 09, 2014 11:10 am

nd4reality wrote:Question : How do we know for sure that JJ O Brian got the  1on1 courtyard / pranking date  ?

Could someone post the evidence here 'cause I missed it. Thanks.

That was my question. If it was really Nick's and not JJ.  no idea 


Anything I post means it's Just My Opinion.  Don't feel like posting it every time I post. So, I thought I'd get that out of the way.

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Post by chloep Fri May 09, 2014 11:20 am

^^ Just to be clear I listed Nick's, JJ's, Chris', Josh's, Brian's and Dylan's,etc. dates long before RS spilled anything.... I don't have screen caps backing them up, they come from my sources.... and TBH, RS has yet to disagree with a spoiler I put out....

Don't get me wrong, I love sleuthing screen caps, but we don't have much to work with right know... I am confident that the caps from the season preview will back the spoilers up. I guess, until then I'll refrain from posting spoilers altogether....



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Post by Hotmomma Fri May 09, 2014 11:34 am

Chloep..oh don't stop. I like reading all the spoiler,thoughts and when we get more previews/ screen caps etc.It either proves or disproves. it what this board is all about!
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Post by nd4reality Fri May 09, 2014 11:44 am

chloep wrote:^^ Just to be clear I listed Nick's, JJ's, Chris', Josh's, Brian's and Dylan's,etc. dates long before RS spilled anything.... I don't have screen caps backing them up, they come from my sources.... and TBH, RS has yet to disagree with a spoiler I put out....

Don't get me wrong, I love sleuthing screen caps, but we don't have much to work with right know... I am confident that the caps from the season preview will back the spoilers up. I guess, until then I'll refrain from posting spoilers altogether....


The only reason the questions started in my mind was because what the board/you listed did not match with what RS said.  I am referring to JJ's dates here. That is the crux of this discussion and what prompted the questions.

I don't think anyone is asking you to refrain from posting spoilers - its just that if there is evidence it would be good for it to be listed and documented somewhere. As long as everyone is aware that the spoilers have not been proven. Yes they could be 100% but we have learned from experience that there is a possibility that there is not. Don't stop posting spoilers please, they are appreciated - just ensure that when it is posted folks are aware that they come from "sources".

Many on the board have already taken all this information (unproven) and run with it to determine who could be F1 just based on the "dates" those individuals have got.

As usual - just a cautionary tale.


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Post by Kashathediva Fri May 09, 2014 12:00 pm

nd4reality wrote:
chloep wrote:^^ Just to be clear I listed Nick's, JJ's, Chris', Josh's, Brian's and Dylan's,etc. dates long before RS spilled anything.... I don't have screen caps backing them up, they come from my sources.... and TBH, RS has yet to disagree with a spoiler I put out....

Don't get me wrong, I love sleuthing screen caps, but we don't have much to work with right know... I am confident that the caps from the season preview will back the spoilers up. I guess, until then I'll refrain from posting spoilers altogether....


The only reason the questions started in my mind was because what the board/you listed did not match with what RS said.  I am referring to JJ's dates here. That is the crux of this discussion and what prompted the questions.

I don't think anyone is asking you to refrain from posting spoilers - its just that if there is evidence it would be good for it to be listed and documented somewhere. As long as everyone is aware that the spoilers have not been proven. Yes they could be 100% but we have learned from experience that there is a possibility that there is not. Don't stop posting spoilers please, they are appreciated - just ensure that when it is posted folks are aware that they come from "sources".

Many on the board have already taken all this information (unproven) and run with it to determine who could be F1 just based on the "dates" those individuals have got.

As usual - just a cautionary tale.

You summed this up very nicely. bestbud! 
Many came to this forum as founders from day 1 to continue the sleuthing game we had on FORT--only improved!  :yes:  Kind of Sleuthers 101.2.  Many members have gotten great spoilers over the season. Some have been winners and some have been losers. What a thrill when the spoiler comes to fruition and what a bummer when it goes down the drain.  Seriously, being right is wonderful, but being wrong is nothing to take personally if or when it happens; it has happened to many and will continue to do so.

For those who love to sleuth--and sleuthing can be as silly as shadow comparisons, candle heights, the degree of sunset/sunshine--nothing matches the high of finding a new puzzle piece.  Probably gives RS that justification on calling "us" no-life losers", but so what, for each his own!   yes



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Post by Hotmomma Fri May 09, 2014 12:02 pm

Kasha.You stated much better than I could!
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Post by chloep Fri May 09, 2014 12:03 pm

^^ Well I(we) had JJ listed as the one on the 1-on-1 date because of the pic and the tweets. Those aren't really my spoilers... :gotcha: When I was referring to "my" spoilers I meant those that come from sources.  Smiley 

And I really don't have a problem with this discussion. I fully support it actually. :yes:  I just meant that perhaps it's be wiser to hold off on the spoilers until there is something to back me up.(I am especially thinking of the season preview, which should be released next Monday). I can't wait! :cutesmile!: ... I am also pumped for the bios! Smiley


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Post by jojo47 Fri May 09, 2014 12:03 pm

nd4reality wrote:
chloep wrote:^^ Just to be clear I listed Nick's, JJ's, Chris', Josh's, Brian's and Dylan's,etc. dates long before RS spilled anything.... I don't have screen caps backing them up, they come from my sources.... and TBH, RS has yet to disagree with a spoiler I put out....

Don't get me wrong, I love sleuthing screen caps, but we don't have much to work with right know... I am confident that the caps from the season preview will back the spoilers up. I guess, until then I'll refrain from posting spoilers altogether....


The only reason the questions started in my mind was because what the board/you listed did not match with what RS said.  I am referring to JJ's dates here. That is the crux of this discussion and what prompted the questions.

I don't think anyone is asking you to refrain from posting spoilers - its just that if there is evidence it would be good for it to be listed and documented somewhere. As long as everyone is aware that the spoilers have not been proven. Yes they could be 100% but we have learned from experience that there is a possibility that there is not. Don't stop posting spoilers please, they are appreciated - just ensure that when it is posted folks are aware that they come from "sources".

Many on the board have already taken all this information (unproven) and run with it to determine who could be F1 just based on the "dates" those individuals have got.

As usual - just a cautionary tale.

Very good post, nd! The best sleuthing takes what we "hear" and matches is with what we "see". Both pieces are necessary!
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