Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #3

[Maggenzm]

I am also taking into consideration how close Andi and Nikki have been post filming too.

  Hard to envision that Nikki and Andi would stay close if Andi called JP an a**hole and really let him have it.  You'd side with your new Beau before your new BFF.

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup! Makes you question. Maybe he does a switcheroo like Jason after all? EITHER lady involved... I will try to Be As Fair As Possible.

JBF, Remember CH mentionned JP giving a solid Mesnick performance, he is always giving clues. Thre might be a Mesnick happening this time.

[Guest]

just a quick million dollar Q for you, great sleuthers...

does JPab HAS TO go through/via this beachy route in this cap :

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from his hotel to THIS FRC site? (on 0:20 or 3:03 mark--if anyone can make the SC,it wd be great!! TIA)



Me think we can (at least try) figuring out the run downs by these caps. Thought please?...TIA

[LibbyBell]

I am also taking into consideration how close Andi and Nikki have been post filming too.

  Hard to envision that Nikki and Andi would stay close if Andi called JP an a**hole and really let him have it.  You'd side with your new Beau before your new BFF.

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup! Makes you question. Maybe he does a switcheroo like Jason after all? EITHER lady involved... I will try to Be As Fair As Possible.

JBF, Remember CH mentionned JP giving a solid Mesnick performance, he is always giving clues. Thre might be a Mesnick happening this time.

The only one I see him doing a Mesnik with would be Sharlene. In the WTA preview it seems she is regretting giving him up.

[JBF]

I am also taking into consideration how close Andi and Nikki have been post filming too.

  Hard to envision that Nikki and Andi would stay close if Andi called JP an a**hole and really let him have it.  You'd side with your new Beau before your new BFF.

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup! Makes you question. Maybe he does a switcheroo like Jason after all? EITHER lady involved... I will try to Be As Fair As Possible.

JBF, Remember CH mentionned JP giving a solid Mesnick performance, he is always giving clues. Thre might be a Mesnick happening this time.

He could also just mean the crying. Desie only cried... with tears visible... when she dumped the first Zack in Atlantic City, during James' interrogation scene and twice with Chris. There was some moisture in the eyes when she dumped Drew... and, of course, this forum battled it out regarding Brooks' departure. She certainly made a big fuss over the latter regardless how moist she was.

Juan is blubbering over every rose ceremony EXCEPT Andi's departure. She just made him mad.

[Guest]

So both girls make it to the FRC
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It doesn't seem that Clare pops in to warn him about Nikki. Seems that SC is her LCD. There appears to be some drama with Clare. He says something rude to her. Maybe he tells her she barely got to meet his family much less Camilla.   JP's parents don't seem to be giving him a glowing report. Nikki is still asking questions but in a VO she says something like she sees the negatives and doesn't want to lose this.

Is he walking to or from the FRC and do you get there via the beach or this way?

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[Hotmomma]

Boy Nickki hair is a mess..maybe she had to wait a long time?

[nd4reality]

Excellent questions Grace and Muras !!! What is happening in those SCs ?

[Litta123]

It doesn't seem that Clare pops in to warn him about Nikki. Seems that SC is her LCD. There appears to be some drama with Clare. He says something rude to her. Maybe he tells her she barely got to meet his family much less Camilla.   JP's parents don't seem to be giving him a glowing report. Nikki is still asking questions but in a VO she says something like she sees the negatives and doesn't want to lose this.

Setting the stage for us was Juan's mom telling Clare that Juan Pablo can sometimes be a little rude.

C: Do you think you know me well enough to make a decision?
JP: That's a good question.
VO C: I'm shocked...and what he chose to tell me was awful.

So, maybe Juan was blunt and direct to Clare regarding Clare....BUT, maybe this conversation leads Juan to tell Clare about his ending with Andi. Because isn't this whole business about "knowing me well enough" the crux of the matter with Andi? I could see Clare being shocked about the retelling of the incident with Andi (heck, weren't we all not supposed to see that coming according to CH?!   ) It's fair to say the whole situation with Andi was awful...so could this be more manipulation to help us think Clare is getting dumped...or that she walks away?

Last night, I was thinking things were looking bad for Clare...but the more I thought on it, the more I think the producers are trying to manipulate us into thinking Nikki is the one. Listen carefully to the words of last night's preview. It pointing to Nikki, not Clare...which makes me go back to "Clare is F1."

[Mirzam]

It doesn't seem that Clare pops in to warn him about Nikki. Seems that SC is her LCD. There appears to be some drama with Clare. He says something rude to her. Maybe he tells her she barely got to meet his family much less Camilla.   JP's parents don't seem to be giving him a glowing report. Nikki is still asking questions but in a VO she says something like she sees the negatives and doesn't want to lose this.

Setting the stage for us was Juan's mom telling Clare that Juan Pablo can sometimes be a little rude.

C: Do you think you know me well enough to make a decision?
JP: That's a good question.
VO C: I'm shocked...and what he chose to tell me was awful.

So, maybe Juan was blunt and direct to Clare regarding Clare....BUT, maybe this conversation leads Juan to tell Clare about his ending with Andi. Because isn't this whole business about "knowing me well enough" the crux of the matter with Andi? I could see Clare being shocked about the retelling of the incident with Andi (heck, weren't we all not supposed to see that coming according to CH?!   ) It's fair to say the whole situation with Andi was awful...so could this be more manipulation to help us think Clare is getting dumped...or that she walks away?

Last night, I was thinking things were looking bad for Clare...but the more I thought on it, the more I think the producers are trying to manipulate us into thinking Nikki is the one. Listen carefully to the words of last night's preview. It pointing to Nikki, not Clare...which makes me go back to "Clare is F1."

Re the bolded, I wouldn't be surprised if she said this in the limo after being dumped.

I think both Nikki and Clare said negative things, and JP's parents also weren't complimentary to him which added to the negativity. We are really being sold a no pick, which makes me think he does at least have an F1 at the end.

[Hotmomma]

I thought in the preview..Nickki asks his mom if he ready? And his mom said "I. Think so".
I think maybe he tried to send Nikki home but she " fought" for him?.

She really hasn't seen the negative side of JP...I think he does tell Nikki/ Clare about Andi..

[Litta123]

mura, here's your shot...

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It's interesting that Nikki has more sunlight on her arms (note elbow) than Clare. Does that mean Clare arrives second?

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[Hotmomma]

I just think it all depends where in the walk in the forest they are at with this shot..

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