*No Spoilers* Bachelor 18 Episode 7 Discussion

... and I do understand her point that the conversation could potentially lead into "smacktalk" about Andi. Clare may have also sensed that was the direction Nikki's mind was going and was seeking "clare-ification" if she was saying something wrong.

Needless to say, I think a lot of that drama looked instigated by handlers. No telling what all is being fed into these contestants' ears.

albean99 wrote:

JBF wrote:That battle between Clare and Nikki was so insignificant. Neither was wrong or right. Nikki was a "B", but apparently was offended by Clare's loose suggestion that Andi got the rose for "reassurance". Yet why would Nikki care what Clare thinks when all three ladies are SUPPOSED to be competing for the same man? It is not like Andi really seems all that gaga over him anyway. The whole thing was stupid stupid stupid.

If they crash each other's fantasy dates, then you know fully well the handlers staged the whole silly thing.

I think Nikki only cared what was being said about Andi because Andi's her friend. I don't think she was offended but didn't want to listen to Clare who seemed to think the rose should have been hers.

I agree!! I was glad she left. Sure she was a bit beotchy but no one call her fake !

We all see things from our perspective and where we come from so with that said I completely understood Nikki's reaction to Clare's comment...from my standpoint, Clare was suggesting that JP gave the rose to Andi out of sympathy and Nikki reacted for two reasons. One, Andi is her friend and she was disgusted with Clare and second, it follows with Nikki's opinion that Clare thinks JP is hers already and therefore him giving Andi a rose must be for some reason other than he just likes her and thinks she is hot. And sorry, if someone comes into my space and initiates a conversation then they need to be ready for what I have to say. To me it looked like Clare and Chelsie and Renee, to a certain extent, had their own little club going on......so why would Nikki feel comfortable sitting around with them interacting when they are disdainful of her. MHO of course.

clueless wrote:We all see things from our perspective and where we come from so with that said I completely understood Nikki's reaction to Clare's comment...from my standpoint, Clare was suggesting that JP gave the rose to Andi out of sympathy and Nikki reacted for two reasons.  One, Andi is her friend and she was disgusted with Clare and second, it follows with Nikki's opinion that Clare thinks JP is hers already and therefore him giving Andi a rose must be for some reason other than he just likes her and thinks she is hot.  And sorry, if someone comes into my space and initiates a conversation then they need to be ready for what I have to say.  To me it looked like Clare and Chelsie and Renee, to a certain extent, had their own little club going on......so why would Nikki feel comfortable sitting around with them interacting when they are disdainful of her.  MHO of course.  

The most ridiculous part for me was Clare telling Nikki it was not her room. 

albean99 wrote:

JBF wrote:That battle between Clare and Nikki was so insignificant. Neither was wrong or right. Nikki was a "B", but apparently was offended by Clare's loose suggestion that Andi got the rose for "reassurance". Yet why would Nikki care what Clare thinks when all three ladies are SUPPOSED to be competing for the same man? It is not like Andi really seems all that gaga over him anyway. The whole thing was stupid stupid stupid.

If they crash each other's fantasy dates, then you know fully well the handlers staged the whole silly thing.

I think Nikki only cared what was being said about Andi because Andi's her friend. I don't think she was offended but didn't want to listen to Clare who seemed to think the rose should have been hers.

Claire got pissed cus someone else got the rose instead of her (very immature for a 32 year old, not fit for a stepmom). Nikki was not being a (B), she knew where Clare was going with the conversation (they all know she is crazy!), she didn't want to be a part of it, I can't blame her for walking away. I feel sorry for Juan if Claire is his F1. This will be very short lived, the girl is unstable. JMO.

Nobody was right or wrong in that fight and actually both are crazy with a capital C. The producers of this show though  
So, I overlook fights that go on under the pressure of the show-the setting is unnatural but when you carry it on to real Life  For someone to be proud of behaving that way  

grace8136 wrote:

clueless wrote:We all see things from our perspective and where we come from so with that said I completely understood Nikki's reaction to Clare's comment...from my standpoint, Clare was suggesting that JP gave the rose to Andi out of sympathy and Nikki reacted for two reasons.  One, Andi is her friend and she was disgusted with Clare and second, it follows with Nikki's opinion that Clare thinks JP is hers already and therefore him giving Andi a rose must be for some reason other than he just likes her and thinks she is hot.  And sorry, if someone comes into my space and initiates a conversation then they need to be ready for what I have to say.  To me it looked like Clare and Chelsie and Renee, to a certain extent, had their own little club going on......so why would Nikki feel comfortable sitting around with them interacting when they are disdainful of her.  MHO of course.  

The most ridiculous part for me was Clare telling Nikki it was not her room. 

Yes, Claire needs to grow up! Can you imaging her having that kind of conversation with princess Camilla? Remember her telling NIkki that she didn't think Juan would have given her a rose if he knew her. Love Nikki's respons " you re not the one giving up roses! Very nice, I thought!

Maggenzm wrote:

grace8136 wrote:

clueless wrote:We all see things from our perspective and where we come from so with that said I completely understood Nikki's reaction to Clare's comment...from my standpoint, Clare was suggesting that JP gave the rose to Andi out of sympathy and Nikki reacted for two reasons.  One, Andi is her friend and she was disgusted with Clare and second, it follows with Nikki's opinion that Clare thinks JP is hers already and therefore him giving Andi a rose must be for some reason other than he just likes her and thinks she is hot.  And sorry, if someone comes into my space and initiates a conversation then they need to be ready for what I have to say.  To me it looked like Clare and Chelsie and Renee, to a certain extent, had their own little club going on......so why would Nikki feel comfortable sitting around with them interacting when they are disdainful of her.  MHO of course.  

The most ridiculous part for me was Clare telling Nikki it was not her room. 

Yes, Claire needs to grow up! Can you imaging her having that kind of conversation with princess Camilla? Remember her telling NIkki that she didn't think Juan would have given her a rose if he knew her. Love Nikki's respons " you re not the one giving up flowers! Very nice, I thought!

Hasn't that line been used in a prior episode? Does anyone remember by who? Are TPTB feeding lines to the girls? I feel like the statement about smiling until your cheeks hurt has been used multiple times, too -- by Juan/Andi and Juan/Nikki. I'm hearing other repetitions as well...can't think of other examples at the moment though....

or am I losing my mind?????

Exactly. Clare and Nikki both have issues and need to pull the stick out their a**. They BOTH think they have "peed" on Juan Pablo. Clare with her "I deserve something amazing" and her "We got through this" and Nikki with her "MY boyfriend" and "Obviously im gonna get a rose attitude". Ughhh. Very unappealing. I hope that nobody ends up with anybody this season. Let them all go their seperate ways.

eversotrue wrote:Exactly. Clare and Nikki both have issues and need to pull the stick out their a**. They BOTH think they have "peed" on Juan Pablo. Clare with her "I deserve something amazing" and her "We got through this" and Nikki with her "MY boyfriend" and "Obviously im gonna get a rose attitude". Ughhh. Very unappealing. I hope that nobody ends up with anybody this season. Let them all go their seperate ways.

Neither Nikki nor Claire are right with Juan long term or for marriage. Their attitude sucks! Not wife material and definitely not stepmother material. I hope Juan sees thru them both at HTD or his family and Carla at the MTP if they are the last 2 standing. There, I said it!!
In addition, these 2 ladies should not be next bachelorette cus I would not watch their season.

Now Andi or Rene for next bacherette!!! Can I get an Amen to that?

Neither Andi nor Renee have shown that they have been a beacon of goodness either actually.

I will watch the next Bachelorette season for the hot guys but not the lead - none of these ladies are really all that.

nd4reality wrote:Neither Andi nor Renee have shown that they have been a beacon of goodness either actually.

I will watch the next Bachelorette season for the hot guys but not the lead  - none of these ladies are really all that.