Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #2

[Living]

To be honest, As far as I see, JP is too short to be GSG or BSG. Neither is he as tall as white shirt guy and stripped shirt guy.

Ashley has heels on and the difference in height will be much much smaller. But, this guy IS TALL. Right now, if it was JP, the height is the about same as when she is bare foot.

Nah! These two guys are not JP. I do not know where or when he comes in. But the 2 guys we have been shown so far are NOT JP.

That's a good point, but the jaw outline compared to JP is what has me convinced it is him.

Jaw lines can be similar in many men. The difference in height is something that is difficult to hide. And, even if JP was standing on something about 4 inches high, the man walked past Ashley and I doubt that the box he was standing on was moved. However much JP may re-enforce his heels, I really doubt he will be wearing a 4 inch heel. And I am saying 4 inches though the difference is more than 4 inches. We do not know JP that well to know exactly how his jawline is from a specific direction.

This jawline comparison can be quite vague when an inch forward or backward could mean anything. A mole, an earring something, not jawline. I can make it fit who I want and right now I can say that jawline looks exactly like Blake's and who knows if that is not true.

[cfck2222]

I'm terrible at analyzing this stuff but the height thing at FRC strikes me as being the product of GSG being in the foreground and therefore seeming taller. Also I feel like I can pretty much match up Ashley's cheekline to the low part of GSG's shoulders in all pics just like I can pretty much line up Ashley's cheekline to the low part of JP's shoulders in the Muay Thai pic.

But I'm terrible at this stuff so take that with a grain of salt. Just putting it out there.

[Reidiscool]

Thanks Peppermom

I noticed 2 things that are significant that may be the signs Fleiss talked about.

1) One is the PI from Ashley at the beginning.
"- I am looking forward to this week because it is going to be very telling what is to come...
- Ryan is one of the guys that I've felt safe with. I love our conversations, I love his energy.
- I am feeling really good about Lucas, we had a great date togetherr in HK. He's just so real, genuine great guy.
- Ames is one of the most unique guys I have ever met. He's so sweet, so intelligent.
- I LOVE BEN, he is funny and there's so many things going for him.
- Constantine is just easy to talk to. He's easy to look at.
- JP just makes me feel comfortable, he makes me feel secure"

2) These 3 SCs. The difference of height between Ashley and Ben. In heels and without heels. Holding hands alla FRC (if that SC was of Ben).


On the other hand, things Ashley likes about Constantine, a) That he holds back a little bit, b) He's not trying to convince her to like him. c) He's not trying to sell himself. (all these are the opposite of JP).

ITA and had just made the exact point on the episode thread.

[nd4reality]

[quote="nutty1"]

To be honest, As far as I see, JP is too short to be GSG or BSG. Neither is he as tall as white shirt guy and stripped shirt guy.

Ashley has heels on and the difference in height will be much much smaller. But, this guy IS TALL. Right now, if it was JP, the height is the about same as when she is bare foot.

Nah! These two guys are not JP. I do not know where or when he comes in. But the 2 guys we have been shown so far are NOT JP.

That's a good point, but the jaw outline compared to JP is what has me convinced it is him.

Me too. The jawline matched. (removed the SCs for brevity)

Living - are you saying that you don't see the matching jawline ?

[Reidiscool]

And she described Dino as her physical type = he and JP have nothing in common in that area. Colour me even more confused after last night's show.

BUT Constantine and Ben are very much similiar in that aspect..........kinda sounds like Ben might very well be our guy. Also considering my source, I am really thinking that way now.

Agreed. I still sometimes look at one and think I'm seeing the other. Usually it's only for a split second, but it is undeniable that they are physically similar in body and facial features.

I've thought since episode 3 that JP couldn't be F1 - based on edit alone. Since then i've seen a distinct eerie Chantal vs Emily parallel.

I think it was epi 3 that I had serious doubts with JP as F1, and yes I see shades of Chantal edit with JP.

[Guest]

To be honest, As far as I see, JP is too short to be GSG or BSG. Neither is he as tall as white shirt guy and stripped shirt guy.

Ashley has heels on and the difference in height will be much much smaller. But, this guy IS TALL. Right now, if it was JP, the height is the about same as when she is bare foot.

Nah! These two guys are not JP. I do not know where or when he comes in. But the 2 guys we have been shown so far are NOT JP.

That's a good point, but the jaw outline compared to JP is what has me convinced it is him.

Jaw lines can be similar in many men. The difference in height is something that is difficult to hide. And, even if JP was standing on something about 4 inches high, the man walked past Ashley and I doubt that the box he was standing on was moved. However much JP may re-enforce his heels, I really doubt he will be wearing a 4 inch heel. And I am saying 4 inches though the difference is more than 4 inches. We do not know JP that well to know exactly how his jawline is from a specific direction.

This jawline comparison can be quite vague when an inch forward or backward could mean anything. A mole, an earring something, not jawline. I can make it fit who I want and right now I can say that jawline looks exactly like Blake's and who knows if that is not true.

I've been almost certain the GSG is Ryan since Hong Kong. Don't know how or why....but I really think it is him. Look how tall he is compared to her.

[gurlbrit]

To be honest, As far as I see, JP is too short to be GSG or BSG. Neither is he as tall as white shirt guy and stripped shirt guy.

Ashley has heels on and the difference in height will be much much smaller. But, this guy IS TALL. Right now, if it was JP, the height is the about same as when she is bare foot.

Nah! These two guys are not JP. I do not know where or when he comes in. But the 2 guys we have been shown so far are NOT JP.

That's a good point, but the jaw outline compared to JP is what has me convinced it is him.

Jaw lines can be similar in many men. The difference in height is something that is difficult to hide. And, even if JP was standing on something about 4 inches high, the man walked past Ashley and I doubt that the box he was standing on was moved. However much JP may re-enforce his heels, I really doubt he will be wearing a 4 inch heel. And I am saying 4 inches though the difference is more than 4 inches. We do not know JP that well to know exactly how his jawline is from a specific direction.

This jawline comparison can be quite vague when an inch forward or backward could mean anything. A mole, an earring something, not jawline. I can make it fit who I want and right now I can say that jawline looks exactly like Blake's and who knows if that is not true.

I've been almost certain the GSG is Ryan since Hong Kong. Don't know how or why....but I really think it is him. Look how tall he is compared to her.

Hi, that's Nick and Ashley in that SC, I'm confused?

[Pattycake92]

GSG is JP. Cheek and jaw bones match.

[happy2bme]

GSG is JP. Cheek and jaw bones match.

I think that is JP too. His clean shaven appearance gives it away. Ben F has way too much hair to not be blowing in the way.

[Guest]

And she described Dino as her physical type = he and JP have nothing in common in that area. Colour me even more confused after last night's show.

I think this could be significant as Chris Harrison and other former contestants keep mentioning how much Ben and Constatine look alike.

[Guest]

Just a suggestion to measure height comparisons... maybe we should compare RC heights differences to the FRC SC's. I just think this would be more comparing apples to apples because the men are wearing thier dress shoes and Ashley is wearing her stilts... I mean heels!

[jojo47]

Over in the Media Thread there's a deleted scene of Ryan coming back to the hotel room after he's let go. Is the red suitcase he's pulling a match to the one we've been sleuthing?

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