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Re: Brooks Forester - Bachelorette 9 - Fan Thread - Discussion #6
Ditto what NM said!nannymargie wrote:Thanks a bunch Atem.
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Thank you for the reminder. I completely believe every word. I would love to see a show of filming the making of the Bach/Bachelorette - a crew filming the crew filming the series.Kashathediva wrote:Glad you brought this over!gabriele wrote:i thought you guys would find this interesting and i'm posting it here because this is primarily where i hang out on this board. it's from another board i frequent where someone randomly was asking about being interviewed for a reality tv show. this was one of the responses to them from someone who worked for a reality tv show.I used to work in reality TV (including some shows you've probably heard of and/or even seen), and there is not enough money in the world to make me willing to be on one of those shows.
Hell, there wasn't even enough money to keep me working on those shows. I've never felt dirtier in my life than when I was working in that world and I've produced TV commercials for candy and sugar cereal.
As others have noted, reality series survive on drama and conflict. Much--really, almost all--of the time, it is drama and conflict conceived and generated by the producers.
In many cases, we would go into the casting process with specific storylines in mind, and cast based on who we thought was either the most likely to give us--or most easily manipulated into giving us--the desired drama/conflict/"story."
If the anticipated conflict didn't develop on its own, the on-location producers did their best to stir it up. You know, things like "Gosh Contestant Mary, I can't believe she said that to you. That's totally uncalled for. I'm surprised you're so calm about it. I know that if someone said something like that to me I'd be pretty pissed off, and I'd want to let them know about it..."
Sounds pretty transparent and unsubtle, I know, but having camera and sound equipment in your face 18 hours a day is ****ing exhausting, which is not an accident because people become poor decision-makers when they are exhausted, and are much more easily manipulated.
But don't worry, even if the cast resists being manipulated into following the intended storyline, with hundreds or sometimes even thousands of hours of footage, the editors can create pretty much any story they want. So you'll have that to look forward to as well.
As to the contract, you could (and should) have a lawyer go over it with you, but know that the production company is unlikely to be willing to make any substantive changes. There's always another sucker desperate to be on TV who will sign it without a second thought.
This kind of thing has been pointed out for years from multiple past cast, crew and sleuthers and treated in a very skeptical manner, so I hope this will be convincing.
I am close with someone who is in tv editing (a large amount of reality tv) and he is on the same page. I've actually never heard otherwise from anyone connected with this show.
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Thank you, dear! Don't want to lose them!sfrank wrote:These and others now in media!
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I do, too, and appreciate the great detail of what you brought over, gabriele and what you have also confirmed, kasha.Mustang19 wrote:Thank you for the reminder. I completely believe every word. I would love to see a show of filming the making of the Bach/Bachelorette - a crew filming the crew filming the series.Kashathediva wrote:Glad you brought this over!gabriele wrote:i thought you guys would find this interesting and i'm posting it here because this is primarily where i hang out on this board. it's from another board i frequent where someone randomly was asking about being interviewed for a reality tv show. this was one of the responses to them from someone who worked for a reality tv show.I used to work in reality TV (including some shows you've probably heard of and/or even seen), and there is not enough money in the world to make me willing to be on one of those shows.
Hell, there wasn't even enough money to keep me working on those shows. I've never felt dirtier in my life than when I was working in that world and I've produced TV commercials for candy and sugar cereal.
As others have noted, reality series survive on drama and conflict. Much--really, almost all--of the time, it is drama and conflict conceived and generated by the producers.
In many cases, we would go into the casting process with specific storylines in mind, and cast based on who we thought was either the most likely to give us--or most easily manipulated into giving us--the desired drama/conflict/"story."
If the anticipated conflict didn't develop on its own, the on-location producers did their best to stir it up. You know, things like "Gosh Contestant Mary, I can't believe she said that to you. That's totally uncalled for. I'm surprised you're so calm about it. I know that if someone said something like that to me I'd be pretty pissed off, and I'd want to let them know about it..."
Sounds pretty transparent and unsubtle, I know, but having camera and sound equipment in your face 18 hours a day is ****ing exhausting, which is not an accident because people become poor decision-makers when they are exhausted, and are much more easily manipulated.
But don't worry, even if the cast resists being manipulated into following the intended storyline, with hundreds or sometimes even thousands of hours of footage, the editors can create pretty much any story they want. So you'll have that to look forward to as well.
As to the contract, you could (and should) have a lawyer go over it with you, but know that the production company is unlikely to be willing to make any substantive changes. There's always another sucker desperate to be on TV who will sign it without a second thought.
This kind of thing has been pointed out for years from multiple past cast, crew and sleuthers and treated in a very skeptical manner, so I hope this will be convincing.
I am close with someone who is in tv editing (a large amount of reality tv) and he is on the same page. I've actually never heard otherwise from anyone connected with this show.
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You mean with the yellow rose? Oh, so sfrank guessed right!momoftrips wrote:atem wrote:Thanks! I can't see it yet though.momoftrips wrote:Inbound video. Brooks is at 0:42.
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It's the Bachelorette skit that we saw the picture from yesterday.
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Make sure to share it on social media. The more see it, the better.fletchy wrote:I can see now I am going to be watching that Marketerette video a lot!! so good
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Very nice - he's got such a cute smile. Thanks for all the pics you have been finding today!atem wrote:More pics. Better enjoy them while this lasts!
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Thanks for continuing to post these, atem! He's just so adorable!isittrue wrote:Very nice - he's got such a cute smile. Thanks for all the pics you have been finding today!atem wrote:More pics. Better enjoy them while this lasts!
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