Re: Brooks Discussion Group

by Guest Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:30 am

bleuberry wrote:I see a discussion, occasionally heated perhaps, but a discussion in which everyone is chiming in with their interpretation or opinion. I suppose anyone not interested in participating can bow out if they want, no?

Agreed, it's like going into a restaurant and telling people not to eat. It's a discussion thread!! Of course we are discussing. :laughingoutlou

by **Sprite** Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:37 am

soccermom333 wrote:
sfrank wrote:
soccermom333 wrote:
sfrank wrote:Everyone is profiting post show. As for Chris "unfollowing" Brooks - that media tour had to be a real wake up call with the Brooks comments, so wouldn't you?! He couldn't exactly hide from it any longer. Why would you want to follow the guy that's a constant reminder that you were the second choice!

As for Inbound Marketing conference, I disagree with as notion that he is somehow "using Des"...he is doing a presentation entitled "Marketing Lessons from the Bachelorette". Desiree was the Bachelorette so how can he not talk about her?! How is any different from anyone else talking about their experience post-show?

I didn't see it but based on what was said by people who attended he talked about his experience, marketing in social media, and how it related to inbound marketing. Brooks' journey involves Des so I am not sure how he can talk about it without mentioning the biggest thing that happened.

IMO, the scene is just as emotional of him as it is for her and doesn't "belong" exclusively to either of them. It happened, why should he ignore it. If he talking about lessons I assume its regarding honesty and being upfront when something is not right or wrong for both parties. If anything the presentation loses credibility if he fails to mention it. After all wouldn't that be the most important lesson of the journey?!

No one was there to know the context of what they spoke. Also, Des doesn't own the right to her image, ABC does. They certainly made sure they showed her crying over and over and over again for Brooks in embarrassing fashion and they knew Chris was the "winner". But suddenly people are outraged because Brooks showed the same clip in presentation about his experience. Ha! Ok.
Chris does not think he is/was second choice. He "unfollowed" Brooks for other reasons. ;)
You are of course free to believe that SM! It's a lovely theory

Thank you, I appreciate it! :Smiley: But....It does not matter what I believe, but what Chris and Des know. ;)

Sorry to seem dense but, I only pop in now and then to these threads and seem to have missed something. What exactly are these theories? and soccermom do you know Des and Chris because you seem to be implying that you are in the know?

by sfrank Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:00 am

Apparently Chris is no longer following Brooks on twitter - my theory is that its because Brooks tweets a lot and he got tried to constantly seeing his name in his feed and reminded that he's there and that he was the second choice on the show.

SM is suggesting or (perhaps has second-hand knowledge) of another reason. Perhaps its because he teased Chris on his poetry?! But so did Elan and it was much worse. Chris seems a little thin skinned and again I point back to it having more to do with some uneasy feelings about his fiance's previous confessions of love for Brooks (now that he's been made more acutely aware of them). Frankly, its not surprising because why would you want to keep following the guy that dumped your girl on national TV and left her broken hearted anyway?!

We could all sit here and theorize why people follow/unfollow each other but what does it really mean? CH seemed to dislike Brooks throughout the season but I can't help noticing Brooks is one in a handful of Bachelor/Bachelorette contestants (non-lead) that he is following post-show. Brooks also unfollowed Des pretty much immediately after the show ended so everyone has their reasons. Only they know personally.

by sfrank Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:23 am

beader wrote:Couldn't Brooks make his presentations, for which I assume he is getting paid directly or indirectly, without using pictures of Des? To use pictures of a lady you are breaking up with to further your own career is just not cool.

Des was The Bachelorette...the presentation was called "Inbound Lessons from The Bachelorette" so ummm why? Brooks also showed pictures of himself in angst over the break-up. And why do people think, the break-up "belongs" exclusively to Des? He was just as much a part of it as she was.

Des and Chris using their time on the show to further theirs, so what is the difference? Its about your experience during the journey. Chris' journey was filled with poetry and a consolation engagement. Brooks' had this emotional break-up. They are sharing their journeys. So because Brooks' story included a break-up with Des its not cool for him to talk about? But Chris and Des can make money off of their "love story" and its ok?

by Chacharo Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:11 am

Kashathediva wrote:Some might even take this further to the point that it was a symbiotic deal that FitMarketing would benefit by having Brooks not only be on the show, but make it far enough in the process to grease their hands(FitMarketing) in Brooks' promotion.
FitMarketing is nothing but another start up marketing firm amongst many, so any publicity would be gravy! And Brooks is nothing more than a mere sales rep in a small firm. 11 weeks of free primetime national advertisement. Wow. Not a bad gift from ABC.
But then that might suggest Brooks was slated from before day one to make it far in the season. Say it aint so.

We have a winner! Kasha has figured out the deep mystery that was the Bres love story. :laughingoutlou

Mandy61 wrote:Okay, I tried so hard not to come here anymore but ...

*snipped for brevity*

IMO this board has become a sad place to visit.

I want to respond to this but I'm having a hard time finding the right words. scratch

by bleuberry Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:53 am

Chris unfollowed Brooks the morning after (or the day of) the tacky move... is it that hard to sleuth this one out?

Anyways, it doesn't really matter, these two weren't ever going to be friends, they're just in two different worlds. It's probably for the best.

by Guest Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:37 am

bleuberry wrote:Chris unfollowed Brooks the morning after (or the day of) the tacky move... is it that hard to sleuth this one out?

Anyways, it doesn't really matter, these two weren't ever going to be friends, they're just in two different worlds. It's probably for the best.

The first line, doesn't matter really, but...

The second line above... which I've bolded,underlined, and colored red, is the most sensible sentence in this whole thread. It is not that important in the grand scheme of things. As Chris Harrison said, nobody was coming out of this season's bachelorette9 unscathed! And as hard as that was to believe, for once Chris Harrison was telling the truth!
:shocked!: affraid

:shock:

by brittany44000 Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:06 pm

Chris has thin skin :shocked!: :shocked!: the man is the most confident steady person who has ever been on this show!!! Also brooks tweeted he wished people got his joke the way chris did... And that they are friends!!! He clearly wasn't offended by the poetry dig!

by brittany44000 Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:13 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
bleuberry wrote:
eliza3 wrote:
iamreal2u wrote:I can see where Brooks utilizing the show as a marketing tool, AND Des and Chris selling their poetry(written while she was in love with Brooks - her words) can be offensive to some and hurtful to both sides(Des and Brooks).
Des and Chris both agreed to make the poetry public....I have a hard time believing that Brooks asked Des if it was ok to use her as a marketing tool. From my perspective the too things are totally different.
I agree. Reminds me of another opportunist from Utah.
Some might even take this further to the point that it was a symbiotic deal that FitMarketing would benefit by having Brooks not only be on the show, but make it far enough in the process to grease their hands(FitMarketing) in Brooks' promotion.
FitMarketing is nothing but another start up marketing firm amongst many, so any publicity would be gravy! And Brooks is nothing more than a mere sales rep in a small firm. 11 weeks of free primetime national advertisement. Wow. Not a bad gift from ABC.
But then that might suggest Brooks was slated from before day one to make it far in the season. Say it aint so.

This is my theory as well... Brooks never had intentions of falling for des ... He went to f3 and then bowed out for his own benefits!!! I think that's why he said he hoped she had stronger connections with drew or chris! I do however think he felt guilty after she was so upset though!

I'm not going to comment on the clip because I can't really see it and it could have been shown for a split sec for all we know... I'll give him the benefit of doubt that he is not that insensitive!

by soccermom333 Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:20 pm

brittany44000 wrote:Chris has thin skin :shocked!: :shocked!: the man is the most confident steady person who has ever been on this show!!! Also brooks tweeted he wished people got his joke the way chris did... And that they are friends!!! He clearly wasn't offended by the poetry dig!

by **Sprite** Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:46 pm

brittany44000 wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:
bleuberry wrote:
eliza3 wrote:
iamreal2u wrote:I can see where Brooks utilizing the show as a marketing tool, AND Des and Chris selling their poetry(written while she was in love with Brooks - her words) can be offensive to some and hurtful to both sides(Des and Brooks).
Des and Chris both agreed to make the poetry public....I have a hard time believing that Brooks asked Des if it was ok to use her as a marketing tool. From my perspective the too things are totally different.
I agree. Reminds me of another opportunist from Utah.
Some might even take this further to the point that it was a symbiotic deal that FitMarketing would benefit by having Brooks not only be on the show, but make it far enough in the process to grease their hands(FitMarketing) in Brooks' promotion.
FitMarketing is nothing but another start up marketing firm amongst many, so any publicity would be gravy! And Brooks is nothing more than a mere sales rep in a small firm. 11 weeks of free primetime national advertisement. Wow. Not a bad gift from ABC.
But then that might suggest Brooks was slated from before day one to make it far in the season. Say it aint so.
This is my theory as well... Brooks never had intentions of falling for des ... He went to f3 and then bowed out for his own benefits!!! I think that's why he said he hoped she had stronger connections with drew or chris! I do however think he felt guilty after she was so upset though!

I'm not going to comment on the clip because I can't really see it and it could have been shown for a split sec for all we know... I'll give him the benefit of doubt that he is not that insensitive!

Sorry...not buying the big conspiracy theory of Brooks being on for promotional purposes. MF and Co. do not do favours for anyone but themselves. Every year we have these theories about so and so being guaranteed spots up until _______. These people may come on the show to help promote themselves or their business ventures (and may come out of it reasonably unscarred...or not), but, I don't see MF giving anyone the guarantee because they never know how the show will play out. (Just check out that contract.) He can't put himself in a corner just for some Joe Schmo, fame wannabe. The only person they truly wanted to promote was Emily because of her Nascar connections and her tragic story so they could set her up to be the next Bette...and they were p*ssed Brad picked her. Brooks was not exactly handled with the same kid gloves.

However much people want to revise what happened on the show, it is clear that these people are not actors. The emotions that occured during that break up was some of the most raw/real emotions that I have seen on this fake show. They were simply pawns in a fake reality manufactured and manipulated by MF and his minions. What happened, happened. Des and Brooks were in some sort of semi real relationship that did not work out and all the drama/tears were a result of being caught up in the moment...assisted by producer meddling. CH was correct...Nobody came out of this season unscathed and all are now in damage control.

by Guest Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:12 pm

Sprite wrote:
Sorry...not buying the big conspiracy theory of Brooks being on for promotional purposes. MF and Co. do not do favours for anyone but themselves. Every year we have these theories about so and so being guaranteed spots up until _______. These people may come on the show to help promote themselves or their business ventures (and may come out of it reasonably unscarred...or not), but, I don't see MF giving anyone the guarantee because they never know how the show will play out. (Just check out that contract.) He can't put himself in a corner just for some Joe Schmo, fame wannabe. The only person they truly wanted to promote was Emily because of her Nascar connections and her tragic story so they could set her up to be the next Bette...and they were p*ssed Brad picked her. Brooks was not exactly handled with the same kid gloves.

However much people want to revise what happened on the show, it is clear that these people are not actors. The emotions that occured during that break up was some of the most raw/real emotions that I have seen on this fake show. They were simply pawns in a fake reality manufactured and manipulated by MF and his minions. What happened, happened. Des and Brooks were in some sort of semi real relationship that did not work out and all the drama/tears were a result of being caught up in the moment...assisted by producer meddling. CH was correct...Nobody came out of this season unscathed and all are now in damage control.

Well said "Sprite"... what you said has been mulling in my brain for a few weeks now, and could not get out to keyboard. Thanks for doing that for me. Chris Harrison delivered on his promise this year-- none of them... Des or the 3 remaining bachelors would make it out unscathed. He forgot to include himself and the franchise in that statement. I thought the whole 'reason for the season' stunk. no no

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