*No Spoilers* The Bachelor - General Discussion

LibbyBell wrote:Thanks for posting the tweet but putting the response tweet hidden Litta! Does he give a name in his response tweet? I'm trying to determine if it is something I want to know   

Nope, no name...just kind of explaining why they are doing back-to-back nights. It doesn't give away anything...just more hype. WetPaint speculates on why it's going back-to-back and Millsy answers. Like I said it doesn't give away who or where...the best description for it is Millsy let's us know the tone for the season.

For example, any of these could be WetPaint's question: More Romance? More Ambulances? More Heartbreak? More Drama? More Nudity? More Dog Photos? Does anyone else want Juan Pablo to die?

I think you get the idea. Do you want to know the answer to one of those questions? That's what you'll have to decide.

Litta123 wrote:

LibbyBell wrote:Thanks for posting the tweet but putting the response tweet hidden Litta! Does he give a name in his response tweet? I'm trying to determine if it is something I want to know   

Nope, no name...just kind of explaining why they are doing back-to-back nights. It doesn't give away anything...just more hype. WetPaint speculates on why it's going back-to-back and Millsy answers. Like I said it doesn't give away who or where...the best description for it is Millsy let's us know the tone for the season.

For example, any of these could be WetPaint's question: More Romance? More Ambulances? More Heartbreak? More Drama? More Nudity? More Dog Photos? Does anyone else want Juan Pablo to die?

I think you get the idea. Do you want to know the answer to one of those questions? That's what you'll have to decide.

Thanks Litta! I'm good with that... just read it and nope, no spoiler, just what I thought about the tone of the season. In fact, isn't it the tone for every season!

^^Ha! Yes, indeed!

Thanks for bringing the tweets across. Others can chime in that anything that is "promo" and released by the producers is fair game to be shared here.

Besides, we know some of the stuff because of the preview and they are trying to hype the season.

Didn't we have back to back episodes last season also towards the end ?

The fact that hometowns and fantasy dates air on consecutive nights creates a distinct "aroma".

Already my "vibe" is two-fold:
1.) If Juan really does have a F1 this season, her hometown went TOO well as far as the editors are concerned and it is mandatory to give viewers plenty of "stuff" on screen to make them forget it. (The same way Antigua Boo-Hoo followed all of last season's make-out sessions between the lead and her F1 on yachts, beaches and in hot-tubs, not to mention telling his own mother that she saw him as the "father of my children".)
2.) The fantasy dates end with a "cliffhanger". (Ditto: Antigua Boo-Hoo was presented as a "cliff-hanger". Hey! It worked. Roughly 70% posting on this forum and elsewhere online was convinced she only wanted one man and he ditched her!)

I also have that funny feeling that somebody "boomerangs" (i.e. leaves or is eliminated, but comes back). Whether she is his F1 or just another dumpee probably doesn't matter. It will be "drama" enough, since so many were hopeful a guy last season would boomerang... including Reality Steve, who probably didn't take any potty breaks the whole time Chris Harrison kept teasing it on the finale.

I know... I know... Misters Fleiss and Harrison keep insinuating that this little show is as real and "unrehearsed" as PUPPY BOWL, but there are way too many "cute little coincidences" you don't see in "real life" season after season for my comfort.

I think there will be a cliffhanger (real or manufactured) but last season they made us wait a week for it. Could it be as simple as they have that time slot to fill? They've had Sunday nights for 4 weeks. What will be in that slot between SeanCat's wedding and this?

That's why I think any "cliffhanger" will be with the fantasy date episode rather than the hometown one. I am sure there will be plenty of distracting business at the end of that one too, like a drawn-out rose ceremony. When is "Women Tell Nothing" aired? Obviously they will need plenty of fodder for the ladies to argue about.

Lol @JBF. so far these ladies seem to be getting along fine almost as well as the male contestants do. There hasn't been that any cat fights,or " I am not here to make friends" crap.

grace8136 wrote:I think there will be a cliffhanger (real or manufactured) but last season they made us wait a week for it. Could it be as simple as they have that time slot to fill? They've had Sunday nights for 4 weeks. What will be in that slot between SeanCat's wedding and this?

Well they did show JuanP storming out of the interview room so perhaps that has something to do with the cliff hanger ?

I also thought that perhaps one of the ladies refuses a rose. If you remember the camera "focus" in episode 1 sort of dictates something that happens in future episodes. Last season when that doctor dude was talking about doom and gloom the camera focused on Brooks. And one of the scenes the camera panned on Nikki when CH was explaining the rules of the show and that the girls could refuse to accept if they did not feel like it. Maybe something like that happens this season. Just something to keep in mind.

ETA : I am just dying to go on YT and see if there are any fan vids or something for this season but fear getting myself spoiled like I did for Seans season. So torn !

^^^ No, don't do it. We need you here helping us.

grace8136 wrote:^^^ No, don't do it. We need you here helping us.

Yes don't bother with fan videos. It is way too early anyhow. I got spoiled last year on YouTube when I read comments. Glad that was wrong!

nd4reality wrote:

grace8136 wrote:I think there will be a cliffhanger (real or manufactured) but last season they made us wait a week for it. Could it be as simple as they have that time slot to fill? They've had Sunday nights for 4 weeks. What will be in that slot between SeanCat's wedding and this?

Well they did show JuanP storming out of the interview room so perhaps that has something to do with the cliff hanger ?

I also thought that perhaps one of the ladies refuses a rose. If you remember the camera "focus" in episode 1 sort of dictates something that happens in future episodes. Last season when that doctor dude was talking about doom and gloom the camera focused on Brooks. And one of the scenes the camera panned on Nikki when CH was explaining the rules of the show and that the girls could refuse to accept if they did not feel like it. Maybe something like that happens this season. Just something to keep in mind.

ETA : I am just dying to go on YT and see if there are any fan vids or something for this season but fear getting myself spoiled like I did for Seans season. So torn !

Still too early for fan videos on youtube. Not that it matters, since F2 and F3 tend to get the "hot" ones anyway. Other segments of the show uploaded are very helpful though.

Good that you remembered Doctor Larry's "going down in flames" line spoken in Desie's premiere show. Almost forgot that one. My "take": Brooks felt very guilty and upset about what he did in Antigua... even if a few of us (a small minority on this forum) suspect that Desiree was simply "putting on a show" for the cameras after playing roll-over-sand-rover and hot-tub-submarine with Christopher the previous date. (Her comment about the "things" Chris does for her as she pulls up her panties, dressing for Brooks' date, was hardly subtle.) Yet Brooksie Boy was crying up a storm about upsetting her. I also think James' speech regarding the destroyed roller coaster in Atlantic City related to both Brooks saying he was an emotional roller coaster as well as James himself, who had the tears streaming down his face on the limo ride out of Barcelona.

Yeah... Nikki getting a face-shot right after Harrison's rose ceremony speech about "refusing a rose" is important. We just don't know why yet. It can be read any number of ways. Possibly she refuses a rose and gets Juan upset at some point. Or she keeps taking them despite not feeling "it" like Sharleen. She also got the key line in episode #1 by Juan "to be yourself". Maybe she always was and his comment is one of praise. Or maybe she is not quite what she seems. She did ask him on their sit down (paraphrasing) "what all do you want to know about me".

I was going through the faceshot/voice-over match-ups in the primary promo shown in episode #1 and was going to post it on the editing thread. Yet I keep delaying the post because it might be too confusing to some. Maybe you will understand it since you are picking up on this kind of editing. (On another note: I stopped watching SURVIVOR a few seasons ago, but many use the faceshot/voice-over match-ups to determine the finalists on the "Survivor Sucks" forum.)