*No Spoilers* The Bachelor - General Discussion

JBF wrote:Now Juan shaking his champagne bottle in the promo as one lady chirps he's "husband material" is... is... is... well, unique and different. Don't get me started on the Freudian implications though.

Litta123 wrote:

JBF wrote:Now Juan shaking his champagne bottle in the promo as one lady chirps he's "husband material" is... is... is... well, unique and different. Don't get me started on the Freudian implications though.

JBF, here's the visual...because I couldn't resist.   BTW, never in a million years would I have made that connection if you hadn't pointed it out.    FYI, this is the screen capture with closed captioning on.

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Also, I took a whole bunch of screen captures, but I'm not exactly sure where to post them. If someone wants to start a thread down here in the non-spoiled section. I can start posting them in the morning. Also, do you guys want the screen caps with or without closed captioning on? I took them both ways.

nd4reality wrote:
From the season preview I too think that Clare has a major role this season. Both in terms of getting dates/alone time with JP and seemingly being part of some drama.

I believe of all the ladies she has the most scenes (what do the rest of you think of this ????)  in the season preview which means she has a lot of dates and goes far and has alone time with him along the way as well. It is possible she is our "preview distraction" candidate so possibly F4, F3, F2 but not F1 like Drew last season, Sean, Kiptyn and Ali.

There were some SCs of her and Nikki in a strong discussion and there were others with her kissing JP wearing the same dress so that happened either before or after her alone time/date with JP. She has also been seen commenting on the drama around her.

She seems to have had some work done (I could be wrong   ) and has almost hollywood type looks (she looks like that actress that guest starred on The Office as Michael's boss/lover) which leads me to believe that this just maybe a stepping stone for something else for her ?
Regardless, she is definitely a huge feature this season.

JBF wrote:

nd4reality wrote:
From the season preview I too think that Clare has a major role this season. Both in terms of getting dates/alone time with JP and seemingly being part of some drama.

I believe of all the ladies she has the most scenes (what do the rest of you think of this ????)  in the season preview which means she has a lot of dates and goes far and has alone time with him along the way as well. It is possible she is our "preview distraction" candidate so possibly F4, F3, F2 but not F1 like Drew last season, Sean, Kiptyn and Ali.

There were some SCs of her and Nikki in a strong discussion and there were others with her kissing JP wearing the same dress so that happened either before or after her alone time/date with JP. She has also been seen commenting on the drama around her.

She seems to have had some work done (I could be wrong   ) and has almost hollywood type looks (she looks like that actress that guest starred on The Office as Michael's boss/lover) which leads me to believe that this just maybe a stepping stone for something else for her ?
Regardless, she is definitely a huge feature this season.

Had they not altered her limo arrival from #1 to #16, I would assume Clare is a replica of Sean’s AshLee Frazier (shown first). Maybe the reason they re-edited her limo arrival was because she was already too AshLee-like and they got scared we would experience “déjà vu” watching this season. Or maybe the outcome is different.

Not surprisingly, she occupies many of the same “spots” in the promo as AshLee did in Sean’s… even shown arguing on screen “left hand side” like AshLee did with Tierra.

As if that is not enough, she also got the last episode #1 “bio” like her, complete with parental “story”. Others who got the last “bio” in past seasons include Brandon in Des’ (“if you work hard at something and get through those hard times, you eventually come out on top”), Arie in Emily’s (her race car “therapy lover”), Ben’s Nikki (talking about marriage… something Mister Flajnik had zero interest in) and Ashley’s William Holman (the one I always thought was JP’s real competition, not Bentley... her hands were all over him before the comedy roast meltdown).

PS: A little correction to my earlier post. Re-watched an upload of the rose ceremony. BOTH Clare and Nikki are shown after "Here's Juan Pablo".

Limos... edited very differently as usual.
1.) Amy gets that stock guitar rift most first-outers get (actually #2)
2.) Cassandra sports the hypnotic eyes and the crickets chirp in unison. Isn’t she one of the mommies? (#10)
3.) Christie in her glitter
4.) Christine... a less glittery blonde (#13)
5.) Nikki gets the “no more limos” line out of him
6.) Kat in her ravishing red (#1)
7.) Chantel... pretty average entrance, a sign she will get stuck in the background of this season (#4)
8.) Victoria ready to teach him Portuguese (#9)
9.) The Hippy... Lucy. You know he will keep her simply because of the producers. (#6)
10.) Danielle – huge head of hair. Nice Type B personality... Miss Mellow (#8)
11.) Lauren logs a piano. Wouldn’t a skateboard be easier?
12.) Chelsie gets a nice F1-ish entrance but the music is too fast-tempo. Also talks too much for slightly poky Juan.
13.) Cowgirl Valerie (#25)
14.) Elise The Fan... “we have so many things in common!” (#26)
15.) Ashley... another glittery one, but giving him a glitter star like her elementary school pupils (#20)
16.) Clare arrives “knocked up” (#24)
17.) Alli remembered his soccer ball, but he simply kicks it away after she leaves! (#14)
18.) Amy J. Is the first of three who learned some Spanish (#15)
19.) Renee is the first to discuss her mommyhood (#18)
20.) Lauren H. will give most her performance later in the evening (#22)
21.) Maggie the Southern Belle who wants to hook Juan like a big mouth bass (#7)
22.) Doggie gives Juan the “cold shoulder”. Owner Kelly is friendlier, but quite often the pet’s parent is not too different than their “child”... (#16)
23.) Lacy... like half the ladies tonight, shown legs first. Already poppin’ the pills. (#21)
24.) Alexis also has her trusty Spanish dictionary handy. Since I never bothered checking Reality Steve’s spoilers, I just assumed she lasted a couple episodes. Now all of the “Alexies” I keep seeing in the promos must be some other brunette he spared. (#17)
25.) Kylie sports the red-hair. Poor girl gets a workout at the rose ceremony (#19)
26.) Sharleen the International Opera Singer whom Chris Harrison has a huge crush on and probably told Juan to give an impression rose to (#23)
27.) Andi arrives “last but not least” and poor Juan chirps “Oh my gosh! How am I gonna do this?”

nd4reality wrote:Is this the possible breakdown of episodes ? This is just my guess from the official Season description.
F25 - LA
F18  LA / SLC
F15 Seoul
F12 Vietnam
F9  New Zealand
F6 Miami
F4 HTDs
F3 St Lucia
F2/Finale St Lucia