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Post by Piper61 Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:59 pm

Bhaka wrote:
sfrank wrote:Guys, help me out here...does Brooks ever say he does not love Des and does think he ever well? I think CH says that but does Brooks ever say "yes, that's true"? I thought he said he was not comfortable proposing and didn't think he would be...so confusing!

I'm so glad you asked this, because this is my big question too.  I never heard him say he didn't love her, only that he wasn't sure YET if she was the love of his life.  He didn't think he would be sure that she was the love of his life by the end of filming.  And he didn't want to propose before he was sure that she was the love of his life.  I think he felt backed into a corner, probably by the producers.  He believed his only two options were to propose or to leave.
Thank you, I didn't hear that he said that specifically either, and took what he said in the context of the time remaining before FRC as well.
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Post by latergator Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:01 pm

Bhaka wrote:
sfrank wrote:Guys, help me out here...does Brooks ever say he does not love Des and does think he ever well? I think CH says that but does Brooks ever say "yes, that's true"? I thought he said he was not comfortable proposing and didn't think he would be...so confusing!

I'm so glad you asked this, because this is my big question too.  I never heard him say he didn't love her, only that he wasn't sure YET if she was the love of his life.  He didn't think he would be sure that she was the love of his life by the end of filming.  And he didn't want to propose before he was sure that she was the love of his life.  I think he felt backed into a corner, probably by the producers.  He believed his only two options were to propose or to leave.

Bhaka, I believe you have this straight.  I don't recall Brooks saying one time in the last episode that he did not love Des.  I wish everyone who thinks he said he did not love her would go back and watch it with the closed captions on... he peats and repeats that he is not so madly in love with her enough to propose at the end.  CH tries to say, if you give the fantasy suite a chance to talk to Des, maybe you can get this straightened out, and Brooks thinks hard and finally says no, he needs to get this done sooner than that.

I believe he was scared that if he went to the FS he would not be able to say goodbye, and he was not sure that he loved her in the kind of way that he should to propose in the end.  it was always about the proposal, and how he should feel about her to propose.
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Post by Piper61 Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:10 pm

latergator wrote:
Bhaka wrote:
sfrank wrote:Guys, help me out here...does Brooks ever say he does not love Des and does think he ever well? I think CH says that but does Brooks ever say "yes, that's true"? I thought he said he was not comfortable proposing and didn't think he would be...so confusing!

I'm so glad you asked this, because this is my big question too.  I never heard him say he didn't love her, only that he wasn't sure YET if she was the love of his life.  He didn't think he would be sure that she was the love of his life by the end of filming.  And he didn't want to propose before he was sure that she was the love of his life.  I think he felt backed into a corner, probably by the producers.  He believed his only two options were to propose or to leave.

Bhaka, I believe you have this straight.  I don't recall Brooks saying one time in the last episode that he did not love Des.  I wish everyone who thinks he said he did not love her would go back and watch it with the closed captions on... he peats and repeats that he is not so madly in love with her enough to propose at the end.  CH tries to say, if you give the fantasy suite a chance to talk to Des, maybe you can get this straightened out, and Brooks thinks hard and finally says no, he needs to get this done sooner than that.

I believe he was scared that if he went to the FS he would not be able to say goodbye, and he was not sure that he loved her in the kind of way that he should to propose in the end.  it was always about the proposal, and how he should feel about her to propose.
Exactly, all about the proposal. The first thing he said to his mother and sister was about how the idea of proposing made him uncomfortable. What changed from hometown? The signing of the F3 contract perhaps?

He was doing the right thing at the time by letting go before she let anyone else go that could have been absolutely fine with proposing at the end, someone she may have been in love with since he wasn't even sure that it was him.
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Post by laurentx Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:38 pm

One of my fave Coldplay songs, I love the lyrics. Heard it today & made me think of Brooks & Des...

Swallowed in the Sea

You cut me down a tree
And brought it back to me
And that's what made me see
Where I was going wrong
You put me on a shelf
And kept me for yourself
I can only blame myself
You can only blame me

And I could write a song
A hundred miles long
Well, that's where I belong
And you belong with me

And I could write it down
Or spread it all around
Get lost and then get found
Or swallowed in the sea

You put me on a line
And hung me out to dry
And darling that's when I
Decided to go to see you

You cut me down to size
And opened up my eyes
Made me realize
What I could not see

And I could write a book
The one they'll say that shook
The world, and then it took
It took it back from me

And I could write it down
Or spread it all around
Get lost and then get found
And you'll come back to me
Not swallowed in the sea

Ooh...

And I could write a song
A hundred miles long
Well, that's where I belong
And you belong with me

The streets you're walking on
A thousand houses long
Well, that's where I belong
And you belong with me

Oh what good is it to live
With nothing left to give
Forget but not forgive
Not loving all you see

Oh the streets you're walking on
A thousand houses long
Well that's where I belong
And you belong with me
Not swallowed in the sea

You belong with me
Not swallowed in the sea
Yeah, you belong with me
Not swallowed in the sea
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Post by Cecilia Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:40 pm

What's the Final 3 contract? And how do we know that there is one?
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Post by atem Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:23 pm

hoosgirl wrote:Sorry, that was really vague! The music video at the start of the season featuring Des had a scene of her glammed up with Cassie behind her. People were trying to sleuth if it was the FRC dress.

Yeah, that other thread should be locked. We have and it was at the Malibu mansion and the gown was metallic.


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Post by atem Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:17 pm

MonicaJM2001 wrote:
BarbB222 wrote:I found this online...
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I am going backwards and bring the above back up that Barb posted abouta week ago. I think the above scenario in the link above is pretty plausible for the Finale Part 2. When you scroll down to the last screen cap, that mystery close up shot of Brooks is there. I know that photo was analyzed and scrutinized probably more than any other photo trying to figure out that fabric type thing. Was it a rope at the beach area where Bres last talked? Was he holding Des tightly and hiding her head with his arms and that weird fabric looking thing is part of her FRC dress? It definitely isn't what she wore when they said their goodbye. Does he look #happytears or #sadtears? I think Asim had menitoned some people invovled in editing mentioned it looked more like happy tears the way his eyebrows or forehead were creasing? I'm convinced they are purposely hiding alot in that picture. If it were just a simple picture of Brooks crying with sadness after the goodbye with Des they would not have needed to have such a close up shot. Plus his hair looks combed back in this pic where as the scenes last week it was flying all over the place and very wild as he kept running his hands all in and over it. On an aside, I will join the sicko club and agree even in a panic, sad, regret driven wild stupor, Brooks still looked really hot. lol.

Wow! Someone created a site for them? That's really nice of them to do.



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Post by Kaltie Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:44 pm

"The After The Final Rose show will be live from a closed set. " - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Is that true? No audience? 

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Post by BarbB222 Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:49 pm

Kaltie wrote:"The After The Final Rose show will be live from a closed set. " - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Is that true? No audience? 


No. Agentcurls has 3 tickets for the show. They opened up more seats.
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Post by Kaltie Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:58 pm

BarbB222 wrote:
Kaltie wrote:"The After The Final Rose show will be live from a closed set. " - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Is that true? No audience? 


No. Agentcurls has 3 tickets for the show. They opened up more seats.

 Lol.. I was like Agentcurls has 3 tickets and there's no audience??? False rumors about After The Final Rose being on a closed set.

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Post by atem Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:03 pm

I think that was probably taken from here and put on that site when people thought it was a closed set.



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Post by DKWillis Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:07 pm

Agentcurls according to the ^^ site this is what it means..."The After The Final Rose show will be live from a closed set.  Meaning, it won’t be a regular live audience attending (l think invitation only but selected by them)".

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