Re: Chris Siegfried -Bachelorette Contestant - Spoilers - Thread #8

[Guest]

I now believe Chris will be the next bachelor and it will be announced at the ATFR. That is why Elan was in Seattle and filming with Chris.

oh Noooo!!...No Chris The Bachelor for me.. ...My RL has been a giant mess for the past 3.5 months!!. ..thanks to Chris and this silly show!!..LOL.... 

[Baseball Mom]

I now believe Chris will be the next bachelor and it will be announced at the ATFR. That is why Elan was in Seattle and filming with Chris.

oh Noooo!!...No Chris The Bachelor for me.. ...My RL has been a giant mess for the past 3.5 months!!. ..thanks to Chris and this silly show!!..LOL.... 

 SAN, are you still around? I know you would be happy to hear what's being said on here .......

[Rosepetal]

If anyone thinks it is to early to announce Chris as the next bachelor, let me point out they announce Jillian Harris on Jason's mess of an ATFR.

[Muslady]

I have no idea who she is engaged to, but I don't think the person she says she wants and the person she needs are the same person. There wouldn't be any reason to make that statement if they were. JMO

[Jeepers]

The bachelorette is usually announced early because filming starts right away... The bachelor is usually announced several weeks after the end of the bachelorette as filming does t start until September

[Admin]

Is it wrong for me to still want Chris as the next bachelor? Sometimes it works out, think Ash and JP, and I'd really like for him to have that chance. JMO

So after last night, you still believe your source is correct on Brooks? Any updates would be appreciated!

I now believe Chris will be the next bachelor and it will be announced at the ATFR. That is why Elan was in Seattle and filming with Chris.

oh Noooo!!...No Chris The Bachelor for me.. ...My RL has been a giant mess for the past 3.5 months!!. ..thanks to Chris and this silly show!!..LOL.... 

 SAN, are you still around? I know you would be happy to hear what's being said on here .......

I have no reason not to believe my source. I still think it is right, but all I know is what they shared with me before the season aired. I don't have any other info.

Yep I am here a little while...I may be in the minority, but I do want him to be the next bachelor.

[Guest]

I may be the only one but I am hopeful that Chris ends up F1. She clearly recognizes and is enthralled with all his great qualities. Outside statements of hers support it being him. Of the two men left, I can see him being understanding (though still hurt) of the huge, unrequited crush she had for Brooks (she was totally caught up in the Bubble, and he was for awhile) - even seeing it in play onscreen. I cannot see anything more romantic than them getting past this to move on with their lives. Remember when Bryden left and she couldn't wait to get back to Chris? She felt it then. He's been her rock. I can't see him leaving, not when he promised her he would be there. Can you think of anything more romantic or proof of real love than him responding - no, Des, I won't leave you. Let's try this. Has anybody seen the movie Sense and Sensibility? Though the characters are in a different time, the premise is the same. Two sisters, one practical, the other with her head in the clouds. (Like Des) The second sister fell head over heels for someone who wanted to love her, but couldn't totally give himself to her. His reasons were selfish, he was weak. Brooks aren't. What is selfish about wanting to have deep, abiding love for someone that you are sure of? (If I'm wrong about his motives, ok, that's just how I feel). She ended up marrying and finding a real secure love with the guy who had been there for her all the time (poetic, some found him dull). A different woman married that man. I remember Lindsay saying she grew up during this process - that she was a different woman at the end than the one who came on. Going through an emotional process can do that to you - even one (and maybe especially one) that happens as quick as this one did. People said that Tierra shouldn't have ever come on the Bachelor. I think the Des that came on this show was in that same place - emotionally vulnerable, too quick to give her heart before her head caught up. I believe the Des who left it (somehow, despite the show process, the manipulation, the enhanced settings and it "raining men" who continually disappointed her) somehow found her way through it to get her reward - a man who never wavered, who she was certain would love her through thick and thin and had already shown her proof of it.

Someone pointed out how often she blogs details about Chris. I've heard the word supportive in most of her conversations about who she needs and when she is referring to him. She told the girls that. She always - in every conversation about Brooks - focused on witty and sarcastic and being spontaneous and the fun they had. Did she ever say what a great father he would make, a supportive husband? She wanted what her parents have. We know what they have, and what she longs for. Someone who is there for you, crazy in love with you - meaning commitment, through thick and thin. Someone to hold you and give you comfort in those dark times and for you to give the same. Someone who still lights your fire though wrinkles come and hair may start turning gray - or leave altogether. Who stick it out - come what may - together. We know the physical attraction must be there, and it is.

Maybe Brooks comes back. Maybe her blog reference on this episode just means her dealing with him at the After the Final Rose session. I just think the more sober Des we've seen on the interviews found something she never would have had with Brooks - and is so glad she did.

Now to "show manipulation". There is no way that we are being given a true glimpse of the final scenes. Chris in a limo in a suit saying "oh, man" rubbing his eyes does not necessarily equal heartbroken. The V0 phrase "I'm not sure this is going to work out" is indicating that there is a hurdle to overcome - him proposing, him continuing the journey, who knows? There is no way that we are given that ending. I think we are all writing off Drew too early as well. Des doesn't go through these LCD we've clearly seen so that she can go through the motions.
Not our Des. "He loves like no one else I've ever seen" seems to me to be about Drew. That's been her one clear perspective about Drew (despite his looks or the clear physical attraction to him) - his great capacity to love unconditionally. Her crying in the red dress - the true, unfiltered statement that she has never been so loved? Possibly Drew, maybe Chris? Another thing. There is no way TPTB would be this public on purpose about who is the next Bachelor - not with this show still playing out - and ratings to rake in. Just saying.

Des' blog is telling. Read it from the perspective of her stating outside of this show clearly what she needs. I can be wrong and may be. That's just how I see things. It just seems to me that if we see Chris as being right for Des (and we have, haven't we?), why would that change now? If he was then, he doubly is now. We see no indication he is giving up. Why are we?

[Muslady]

I may be the only one but I am hopeful that Chris ends up F1. She clearly recognizes and is enthralled with all his great qualities. Outside statements of hers support it being him. Of the two men left, I can see him being understanding (though still hurt) of the huge, unrequited crush she had for Brooks (she was totally caught up in the Bubble, and he was for awhile) - even seeing it in play onscreen. I cannot see anything more romantic than them getting past this to move on with their lives. Remember when Bryden left and she couldn't wait to get back to Chris? She felt it then. He's been her rock. I can't see him leaving, not when he promised her he would be there. Can you think of anything more romantic or proof of real love than him responding - no, Des, I won't leave you. Let's try this. Has anybody seen the movie Sense and Sensibility? Though the characters are in a different time, the premise is the same. Two sisters, one practical, the other with her head in the clouds. (Like Des) The second sister fell head over heels for someone who wanted to love her, but couldn't totally give himself to her. His reasons were selfish, he was weak. Brooks aren't. What is selfish about wanting to have deep, abiding love for someone that you are sure of? (If I'm wrong about his motives, ok, that's just how I feel). She ended up marrying and finding a real secure love with the guy who had been there for her all the time (poetic, some found him dull). A different woman married that man. I remember Lindsay saying she grew up during this process - that she was a different woman at the end than the one who came on. Going through an emotional process can do that to you - even one (and maybe especially one) that happens as quick as this one did. People said that Tierra shouldn't have ever come on the Bachelor. I think the Des that came on this show was in that same place - emotionally vulnerable, too quick to give her heart before her head caught up. I believe the Des who left it (somehow, despite the show process, the manipulation, the enhanced settings and it "raining men" who continually disappointed her) somehow found her way through it to get her reward - a man who never wavered, who she was certain would love her through thick and thin and had already shown her proof of it.

Someone pointed out how often she blogs details about Chris. I've heard the word supportive in most of her conversations about who she needs and when she is referring to him. She told the girls that. She always - in every conversation about Brooks - focused on witty and sarcastic and being spontaneous and the fun they had. Did she ever say what a great father he would make, a supportive husband? She wanted what her parents have. We know what they have, and what she longs for. Someone who is there for you, crazy in love with you - meaning commitment, through thick and thin. Someone to hold you and give you comfort in those dark times and for you to give the same. Someone who still lights your fire though wrinkles come and hair may start turning gray - or leave altogether. Who stick it out - come what may - together. We know the physical attraction must be there, and it is.

Maybe Brooks comes back. Maybe her blog reference on this episode just means her dealing with him at the After the Final Rose session. I just think the more sober Des we've seen on the interviews found something she never would have had with Brooks - and is so glad she did.

Now to "show manipulation". There is no way that we are being given a true glimpse of the final scenes. Chris in a limo in a suit saying "oh, man" rubbing his eyes does not necessarily equal heartbroken. The V0 phrase "I'm not sure this is going to work out" is indicating that there is a hurdle to overcome - him proposing, him continuing the journey, who knows? There is no way that we are given that ending. I think we are all writing off Drew too early as well. Des doesn't go through these LCD we've clearly seen so that she can go through the motions.
Not our Des. "He loves like no one else I've ever seen" seems to me to be about Drew. That's been her one clear perspective about Drew (despite his looks or the clear physical attraction to him) - his great capacity to love unconditionally. Her crying in the red dress - the true, unfiltered statement that she has never been so loved? Possibly Drew, maybe Chris? Another thing. There is no way TPTB would be this public on purpose about who is the next Bachelor - not with this show still playing out - and ratings to rake in. Just saying.

Des' blog is telling. Read it from the perspective of her stating outside of this show clearly what she needs. I can be wrong and may be. That's just how I see things. It just seems to me that if we see Chris as being right for Des (and we have, haven't we?), why would that change now? If he was then, he doubly is now. We see no indication he is giving up. Why are we?

I agree with this, but I don't trust Des to see how much of a rock Chris has been for her in a week. I do have high hopes though with Brooks out of the picture for at least a week. She has been comparing and evaluating all along; if she can get over her infatuation of Brooks and realize what she has been saying about Chris, Chris will be F1.

[Luvvy]

I now believe Chris will be the next bachelor and it will be announced at the ATFR. That is why Elan was in Seattle and filming with Chris.

I think so, too. Initially, I thought there's no way they would be filming that early and announce it right after he professes his love for Des, but Des essentially gave his fans the closure they needed last night, earlier than usual.

Agreed! This is what it's looking like.

[Luvvy]

Interesting that Des says her beach time with Chris was a turning point. mimitalks your points are well taken.

[JBF]

I may be the only one but I am hopeful that Chris ends up F1. She clearly recognizes and is enthralled with all his great qualities. Outside statements of hers support it being him. Of the two men left, I can see him being understanding (though still hurt) of the huge, unrequited crush she had for Brooks (she was totally caught up in the Bubble, and he was for awhile) - even seeing it in play onscreen. I cannot see anything more romantic than them getting past this to move on with their lives. Remember when Bryden left and she couldn't wait to get back to Chris? She felt it then. He's been her rock. I can't see him leaving, not when he promised her he would be there. Can you think of anything more romantic or proof of real love than him responding - no, Des, I won't leave you. Let's try this. Has anybody seen the movie Sense and Sensibility? Though the characters are in a different time, the premise is the same. Two sisters, one practical, the other with her head in the clouds. (Like Des) The second sister fell head over heels for someone who wanted to love her, but couldn't totally give himself to her. His reasons were selfish, he was weak. Brooks aren't. What is selfish about wanting to have deep, abiding love for someone that you are sure of? (If I'm wrong about his motives, ok, that's just how I feel). She ended up marrying and finding a real secure love with the guy who had been there for her all the time (poetic, some found him dull). A different woman married that man. I remember Lindsay saying she grew up during this process - that she was a different woman at the end than the one who came on. Going through an emotional process can do that to you - even one (and maybe especially one) that happens as quick as this one did. People said that Tierra shouldn't have ever come on the Bachelor. I think the Des that came on this show was in that same place - emotionally vulnerable, too quick to give her heart before her head caught up. I believe the Des who left it (somehow, despite the show process, the manipulation, the enhanced settings and it "raining men" who continually disappointed her) somehow found her way through it to get her reward - a man who never wavered, who she was certain would love her through thick and thin and had already shown her proof of it.

Someone pointed out how often she blogs details about Chris. I've heard the word supportive in most of her conversations about who she needs and when she is referring to him. She told the girls that. She always - in every conversation about Brooks - focused on witty and sarcastic and being spontaneous and the fun they had. Did she ever say what a great father he would make, a supportive husband? She wanted what her parents have. We know what they have, and what she longs for. Someone who is there for you, crazy in love with you - meaning commitment, through thick and thin. Someone to hold you and give you comfort in those dark times and for you to give the same. Someone who still lights your fire though wrinkles come and hair may start turning gray - or leave altogether. Who stick it out - come what may - together. We know the physical attraction must be there, and it is.

Maybe Brooks comes back. Maybe her blog reference on this episode just means her dealing with him at the After the Final Rose session. I just think the more sober Des we've seen on the interviews found something she never would have had with Brooks - and is so glad she did.

Now to "show manipulation". There is no way that we are being given a true glimpse of the final scenes. Chris in a limo in a suit saying "oh, man" rubbing his eyes does not necessarily equal heartbroken. The V0 phrase "I'm not sure this is going to work out" is indicating that there is a hurdle to overcome - him proposing, him continuing the journey, who knows? There is no way that we are given that ending. I think we are all writing off Drew too early as well. Des doesn't go through these LCD we've clearly seen so that she can go through the motions.
Not our Des. "He loves like no one else I've ever seen" seems to me to be about Drew. That's been her one clear perspective about Drew (despite his looks or the clear physical attraction to him) - his great capacity to love unconditionally. Her crying in the red dress - the true, unfiltered statement that she has never been so loved? Possibly Drew, maybe Chris? Another thing. There is no way TPTB would be this public on purpose about who is the next Bachelor - not with this show still playing out - and ratings to rake in. Just saying.

Des' blog is telling. Read it from the perspective of her stating outside of this show clearly what she needs. I can be wrong and may be. That's just how I see things. It just seems to me that if we see Chris as being right for Des (and we have, haven't we?), why would that change now? If he was then, he doubly is now. We see no indication he is giving up. Why are we?

For me the business with Brooks is no different than the business with Bentley, Frank, Graham (well… that one can be debated), Kiptyn and all other frontrunners that the F1 guy has to deal with on screen. Of course, Chris himself prepared us back on episode #5 by saying “She doesn’t have to say it. She can say it through her kisses. She can say it through her eyes. I know it is happening. This is real and this is happening.” So regardless of what she says on screen, words are less important than actions. Also she commented on how he doesn’t let other things interfere with what they have together… and this will obviously include Brooks, Drew and a silly TV show.

What tickles me about Stud Siegfried is how he insists episode after episode that what he has with Des is unlike the other guys. I have the feeling he is telling us the truth in more ways than one. There was so much commentary weeks ago about his FROM HERE TO ETERNITY rolls in the sand with her resembling too much Sean with dumpee AshLee, but few failed to take note that Catherine and Lindsay had plenty of beach scenes as well. Considering how often we see Drew shirtless on screen, it is rather surprising that we rarely see him with her shirtless. Now… Robert Mills alluded that Drew’s fantasy date was the steamiest. Whether he was implying hot chicka-boom-boom action or a broken AC is up for us to debate. Also she mentioned a steamy spa session with Brooks in a people.com blog for episode 4 and Juan Pablo almost melted an igloo, so technically every guy could be concerned about the competition.

Yet we sure are getting the visuals with Chris. Maybe if Drew or Brooks are F1, they are OK with this. Apparently the editors were trying to allude to something provocative when she said “the little things he [Chris] does that shows who he is” as she pulled up her shorts over her bikini bottom. This is probably the most blatantly sexual shot this season to compare with Sean lathering up in his shower... and Chris is the topic of discussion. Also the LCD dates have still more limited swimwear, so apparently she is not having a problem being intimate with Chris after Brooks leaving.

Something I only caught the second time I watched. The editors made a point of showing both Drew and Chris eating fruit on their dates. Drew was struggling with his pineapple (like I would since I am lousy at cutting them too). He and Des eat separate pieces. However Chris is feeding Des in the mouth like the famous cigarette sharing scene in NOW VOYAGER (another old movie we can reference here). The way they edit that scene, it appears that she bites from the piece and he shoves the rest in his own mouth. Whether that is actually happening or not, you still get the impression with the edit.

She told Jimmy Kimmel that this season is full of surprises when he asked if she got engaged with Brooks. I’ll just leave at that. Not questioning anything except that brother Nate promised next week will be even more crazy than this one.

Also everything that happened last night happened three months ago…

Another tidbit. In our music video promo in early May, she and Bryden drew a heart in the beach sand... saw this stunt repeated.

[b]

This is one comment of Des People Blog
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Natasha Munn 9 minutes ago
Desiree, I was so embarrassed for you with your pity-party with Brooks. There's not one bone of self esteem. The man said he is not in love with you, and you reply by saying "I was going to tell you that I love you, today". Any other guy you would have show him the door. He has not said "I love you" and with your acting capabilities you made him feel worse. I wonder if he comes back... NOT BECAUSE HE LOVES YOU BUT BECAUSE HE FEELS BAD ABOUT MAKING YOU CRY. His mom and sister knew he's not in love, rewind that part and watch their faces.... even Chris Harrison knew he's not in love with you.

Chris is in love with you. Brooks isn't. You deserve NO ONE after saying that you go out on the other dates, but you don't love them. Grow up a little, then come back and find love. You are not ready.
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i completely agree with her!!......  and im glad to know i am not the one who notice her acting capabilities   
oh and yes, i like to quote comments from  article/blog that i found suit my opinion well.... since i dont have to invest much time and my brain cell for the English translation in my head...LOL..especially after this giant mess episode!!...

Well, b/f I read her blog, I was just at what is going to happen to salvage this season.  After reading it, I'm more convinced she takes him back.  I really didn't like her reference to Chris and Drew as the "remaining men".  Not Brooks, Chris, and Drew, but Brooks and the remaining men.  Perhaps, I'm reading too much into it, but that makes me more convinced Brooks is F1 or she walks away alone.

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