Re: Brooks Forester - Bachelorette 9 Contestant - Spoilers - Thread #10

[Guest]

as far as i know the show has never put out false photos of the FRC. someone every season suggests there were two FRCs filmed but it's never happened as long as i've been watching.

[atem]

as far as i know the show has never put out false photos of the FRC. someone every season suggests there were two FRCs filmed but it's never happened as long as i've been watching.

Like Desiree and Brooks would even do one?

[Guest]

I think it's really unfair to say Des is chasing Brooks.

When they are together they are flirty, have fun, have meaningful conversation and gaze into each others eyes. They are natural together. They have talked about their feelings at his prompting of wanting to know where they were at. She wrote out a list of their moments as a nice reassuring gesture but did a similar thing with Chris. She often just gazes at him until he kisses her. She has only told CH that she loves him not Brooks himself. And she hasn't asked or pressured him to put into words how he feels abut her.

Where is any chasing? I think she is just being herself with him and letting her feelings show.

[sparkler]

He doesn't seem that way body language wise to me.

Someone already brought up the false photo thing to RS and he said that it was a nice conspiracy theory, but that's not what happened.  Plus, you are saying Desiree and Brooks faked a FRC?

Not at all. I was just thinking that maybe the producers had Des and her final 3 take photos at some point, that could then be released to appear to be a finale of sorts- I don't know...I haven't thought it through...Maybe it would be impossible due to the scenery required in the background at the finale ...but it was just a thought....On the cloud 9 date though, and I may be alone in my opinion, I felt Brooks was lukewarm in all honesty in his body language with Des...maybe I am posting in the wrong thread but I also recall Brooks kissing Des hello with one hand in his pocket...that to me is either shyness or disinterest... I have seen this lack of reciprocity from him thoughout the season in body language in all honesty...although clearly others don't agree.

[atem]

He doesn't seem that way body language wise to me.

Someone already brought up the false photo thing to RS and he said that it was a nice conspiracy theory, but that's not what happened.  Plus, you are saying Desiree and Brooks faked a FRC?

Not at all. I was just thinking that maybe the producers had Des and her final 3 take photos at some point, that could then be released to appear to be a finale of sorts- I don't know...I haven't thought it through...Maybe it would be impossible due to the scenery required in the background at the finale ...but it was just a thought....On the cloud 9 date though, and I may be alone in my opinion, I felt Brooks was lukewarm in all honesty in his body language with Des...maybe I am posting in the wrong thread but I also recall Brooks kissing Des hello with one hand in his pocket...that to me is either shyness or disinterest... I have seen this lack of reciprocity from him thoughout the season in body language in all honesty...although clearly others don't agree.

No, he didn't. He brought her closer to him when they kissed sitting down and brought her into the kiss at the Fort.

[Guest]

as far as i know the show has never put out false photos of the FRC. someone every season suggests there were two FRCs filmed but it's never happened as long as i've been watching.

Like Desiree and Brooks would even do one?  

exactly. i actually don't think even MF is that heartless that he would ask a F2 who is totally heartbroken to now fake a proposal. if he did i bet the F2s would all revolt and tell him to f-off.  

[atem]

I'm not saying Brooks doesn't love Desiree. He just may do it too late though and Desiree picks someone that was there all along for her and had no problem taking the risk of being hurt. That's all!

I think her being with Chris S would be the most boring life for her, but it's her choice, not mine!

[sfrank]

It's under General Media and it was for their fitness issue.  It's the one with her wearing that blue dress.

The necklace Atem? What page or post number?

No.  It was a question and she said 'Athletic and gets along with everyone'.

OMG, I am getting so confused, LOL. This has nothing to do with the necklace??

No.  I said that it's not true that every interview indicates Brooks.

Actually many don't.

I disagree, most do! We are being hit over the head with adjectives like witty, spontaneous, and adventurous for who she was looking for.  

[sfrank]

Just re-watched Brooks date.  It was clearly the best one and he had the best things to say about her.  Doesn't make sense that he makes her cry in Antigua.  I want someone to just tell me what happens already so I can relax!

And I wouldn't take anything serious that Nate says.  He is a creeper.

I have to say that I agree with Atem on all of her many posts. I am commenting on this one because I honestly DO believe what Nate says for the very reason that I think he is unfiltered in his opinions....I seriously doubt that he would be influenced by TPTB, and I don't think he would post anything to "throw people off" (say something about Chris or the spoilers just to keep the final one a secret). I doubt that he operates in that way. That comment about not believing the spoiler and having a bias towards Chris was too early into the season and too easily forgotten by most people to have any ulterior motive as well.

I actually agree with Atem that Brooks is not the final one.....at least I hope not...I am seeing Des chase him (as I believe she has said is her pattern over her previous relationships) and that is why Brooks was so comfortable and familiar to her. We choose the familiar, even if it is wrong, and until we break that pattern, we get the same results, or at least that has been my experience.Someone posted earlier that on their first date, Des could not have known that Brooks was "behind" the others when she so clearly fell for him....Probably not, but she could sense his vagueness, and holding back emotionally and that felt "right" meaning that it was familiar, in my opinion.  On cloud 9 I saw very lukewarm body language from Brooks- I see way more between Drew and Des and Chris and Des.....

Here is my theory: I think that TPTB took fake finale pictures of all of the final 3 with Des and released one of the photos as "proof" that created the spoilers...RS has relied on photos in the past, even (arrogantly) describing bathing suit colors on Ashley H. etc. He had photo proof of Ben and Courtney that we all saw prior to the finale.

I think this would create Mike Fleiss's "best Season"; that is, to fool every last one of us....but the evidence is still there.....Anyway, I agree with every word you say Atem.....Also I admit that I may be completely wrong too.

I guess its in the eye of the beholder because the body language between Des and Brooks is off the charts, IMO. I would recommend you rewatch with the sound off.
She and Brooks were touching the entire time on cloud 9 contrast that with the space between her and Chris while writing the poetry. The night portion of her date to me screams more gratitude for Chris' confession of love vs. actual reciprocation of love. IMO the way Chris feels about Des is the way Des feels about Brooks.

I heard the "chasing after Brooks" thing...I'd love for you to share an example of that. Des loves Brooks but he doesn't know that...we do. He thinks they are progressing together if not very close (him jogging to her running). But how is exactly is she "chasing" him.?

Her blog today saying she was 100% in love screams Brooks and was confirmed when she says her feelings were solidified. If
anyone but Brooks is F1, frankly, I feel bad for them because they are the default F1.

[Guest]

I think it's really unfair to say Des is chasing Brooks.

When they are together they are flirty, have fun, have meaningful conversation and gaze into each others eyes.  They are natural together.  They have talked about their feelings at his prompting of wanting to know where they were at.   She wrote out a list of their moments as a nice reassuring gesture but did a similar thing with Chris.  She often just gazes at him until he kisses her.  She has only told CH that she loves him not Brooks himself.  And she hasn't asked or pressured him to put into words how he feels abut her.

Where is any chasing?  I think she is just being herself with him and letting her feelings show.

Yeah, Brooks is getting a bad rap lately. You let it slide and the rumors gets worse and worse until the stories are myths and the myths are legends.

He seems to be meeting her halfway whenever they're together. Like he said, it's easy when they're together. It's hard when they're apart. That's when he starts thinking.

[Guest]

I think it's really unfair to say Des is chasing Brooks.

When they are together they are flirty, have fun, have meaningful conversation and gaze into each others eyes.  They are natural together.  They have talked about their feelings at his prompting of wanting to know where they were at.   She wrote out a list of their moments as a nice reassuring gesture but did a similar thing with Chris.  She often just gazes at him until he kisses her.  She has only told CH that she loves him not Brooks himself.  And she hasn't asked or pressured him to put into words how he feels abut her.

Where is any chasing?  I think she is just being herself with him and letting her feelings show.

yeah, des isn't stupid. her feelings may be a fair bit farther along then brooks but she really hasn't revealed that to him, only CH and the audience. it was interesting too how she said on the HTD that she'll skip and he said he'll run. honestly, it's all just producer manipulation. it's also why the vast majority of these relationships from the show don't work out. they weren't real to begin with but manipulated and couldn't last outside the bubble. every once in a while lightening does strike though.

[sparkler]

He doesn't seem that way body language wise to me.

Someone already brought up the false photo thing to RS and he said that it was a nice conspiracy theory, but that's not what happened.  Plus, you are saying Desiree and Brooks faked a FRC?

Not at all. I was just thinking that maybe the producers had Des and her final 3 take photos at some point, that could then be released to appear to be a finale of sorts- I don't know...I haven't thought it through...Maybe it would be impossible due to the scenery required in the background at the finale ...but it was just a thought....On the cloud 9 date though, and I may be alone in my opinion, I felt Brooks was lukewarm in all honesty in his body language with Des...maybe I am posting in the wrong thread but I also recall Brooks kissing Des hello with one hand in his pocket...that to me is either shyness or disinterest... I have seen this lack of reciprocity from him thoughout the season in body language in all honesty...although clearly others don't agree.

No, he didn't.  He brought her closer to him when they kissed sitting down and brought her into the kiss at the Fort.

Honestly, this is just my opinion, but as someone who fell completely for Jef and Emily last year, even though many were saying that they were way off in their body language, and I denied it until I couldn't any longer-  I just dont see it....I saw Brook gazing off into the distance a little too much on that cloud 9 date, plus I saw him with this arm around Des at one point but barely, like it was an obligation...I am only going off of my thoughts at the time because I only saw it once..I see this as one sided with Des being "all in" and Brooks not so much, more than most do. I agree that the potential is there but that there is something emotionally blocked in Brooks that shows in his body language- sorry for those who are offended and I will stop with the commentary now.....I am intrigued though if Mike Fleiss did manage to pull it off....

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