The Bachelor 18 Spoilers/Speculation - Media - Discussion
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Not sure I understand your meaning about F1s, atem? I agree that after RS's spoilers Brooks and Jef fans elevated them to kingdom. Is that what you mean? Personally, I've never put any spoiled F1 (or any contestant) on a pedestal so I'm never crushed when the spoiler is wrong. Which is not to say I don't like some contestants more than others. I just take it all with a grain of salt. :skeptic:
Anyway, I'd totally forgotten that RS put Zak in the F3 and it was the sleuthers who figured out he was wrong. Good for you, atem, for helping to figure that out! But didn't that give you a clue he had bad spoilers? The reason the sleuthers figured out RS was wrong about the F1 was that there was not a single screencap of Brooks on a date in Antigua. And with careful analysis it was obvious that both Drew and Chris had FD and LCD dates. Drew's LCD was short but it was clearly a seperate event from his FD. Thus, Brooks had no dates. I'd just like us to perform the same F3 analysis this season. Unfortunately, I can't bring over screencaps. Who used to do that for us?
Anyway, I'd totally forgotten that RS put Zak in the F3 and it was the sleuthers who figured out he was wrong. Good for you, atem, for helping to figure that out! But didn't that give you a clue he had bad spoilers? The reason the sleuthers figured out RS was wrong about the F1 was that there was not a single screencap of Brooks on a date in Antigua. And with careful analysis it was obvious that both Drew and Chris had FD and LCD dates. Drew's LCD was short but it was clearly a seperate event from his FD. Thus, Brooks had no dates. I'd just like us to perform the same F3 analysis this season. Unfortunately, I can't bring over screencaps. Who used to do that for us?
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atem, I do remember you were one of the folks who kept questioning what turned out to be Drew and Des in Antigua when others had written him off. I think it is important to keep an open mind regardless of who our favorites might be because 'ole MF is still capable of more than a few tricks.
I take RS info as a piece, and often an important piece, of what is out there, but I really respect our sleuthers who "bring it" season after season by analysis rather than sources. To me sources are interesting and a guide of where to look, but sources can be mislead. Even when they believe whole-heartedly in what they are told, it's good to confirm. "Trust but verify" as my boss always says.
I take RS info as a piece, and often an important piece, of what is out there, but I really respect our sleuthers who "bring it" season after season by analysis rather than sources. To me sources are interesting and a guide of where to look, but sources can be mislead. Even when they believe whole-heartedly in what they are told, it's good to confirm. "Trust but verify" as my boss always says.
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pavalygurl wrote:atem, I do remember you were one of the folks who kept questioning what turned out to be Drew and Des in Antigua when others had written him off. I think it is important to keep an open mind regardless of who our favorites might be because 'ole MF is still capable of more than a few tricks.
I take RS info as a piece, and often an important piece, of what is out there, but I really respect our sleuthers who "bring it" season after season by analysis rather than sources. To me sources are interesting and a guide of where to look, but sources can be mislead. Even when they believe whole-heartedly in what they are told, it's good to confirm. "Trust but verify" as my boss always says.
Nicely put. RS is correct in much, if not most, of what he spoils. That said, I really only care about the final 6 or so. Not so much about who is 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc but rather as a means of focusing my attention on the ones that make it far and how they differ from those who are let go and from one another. It's good and fun to know the dates and some of the little tidbits RS gets, but I always take the final two with a grain of salt. Some of the leaked F1's I've really liked (Cat), some I've been neutral on (Brooks) and some I've disliked (Vienna, Jeff). Whether I like the lead or the leaked "winner", doesn't really effect my watching the show, however, it does effect just how much attention I pay to it all. I like coming here to hear some other view points because it may make me pay attention to something I may not have otherwise and it's fun hanging out with other people similarly obsessed.
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I don't think that most of these primaries are "in it for the right reasons" unless the right reasons are money, exposure and travel but I have to say I am actually enjoying this season already.
My DH even watched it with me laughing his head off as JP would turn and check out the girls behinds as they walked into the mansion. He said "finally, the first REAL guy" and I think we will get a lot of "real" uninhibited behavior from JP that will make this season far more entertaining than any of the recent ones.
I think people are nuts to propose on this ridiculous show so if he doesn't I say more power to him!
My DH even watched it with me laughing his head off as JP would turn and check out the girls behinds as they walked into the mansion. He said "finally, the first REAL guy" and I think we will get a lot of "real" uninhibited behavior from JP that will make this season far more entertaining than any of the recent ones.
I think people are nuts to propose on this ridiculous show so if he doesn't I say more power to him!
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Juan Pablo's Bachelor Blog: The Master of Group Dates Gets a Couple One-on-Ones
I couldn't wait for this week to begin, because in all my time on The Bachelorette and The Bachelor, I had never been on a one-on-one date. Finally, the master of group dates got to have two one-on-one dates this week.
For Clare's date, we decided to create a winter wonderland, complete with snow, ice skating and sledding, even though we were in sunny Los Angeles. Before taking Clare, I decided to spend some time and surprise Camila. She hadn't seen snow since she was 10 months old, so I wanted to see her face during this experience. She loved it, and watching Camila see the snow and ice skate is something I won't forget.
I knew the winter wonderland was going to be a shock to Clare, but I love surprising people. When I'm in a relationship, I always find ways to surprise my girlfriend. Being El Bachelor, I get to surprise all these women, and this one with Clare I really believed was a good one. In the car ride over, she kept asking me a million times what we were doing, and she even got a little nauseous. I remember when I carried her on my back, and as soon as I stepped on the snow she had an idea of what it was, but it wasn't until I took the blindfold off that she was certain. Seeing her that happy and excited definitely made me smile.
We had a blast playing around in the snow. Ice skating with Clare was great, and we went sledding a couple of times. We made a bet on the race. Whoever lost had to give the winner a massage. I won the first race, but Clare wanted a rematch. We did a double or nothing, and I won again. So I decided to get one of the massages that night and save the other one for another time.
It was nice to get into that hot tub when it was so cold around us. When Clare opened up about her dad, it really got to me. As a father myself, I want Camila to look to me one day like that. It seems like Clare's been struggling ever since her father's death. She even calls herself the Ice Queen. Maybe one day I will help melt that icy heart of hers. All I know for sure is that we were having a fantastic date together, and it got even better when Josh Krajcik started playing. He's an amazing singer, and to finish the night like that, dancing in the snow … perfect. I really loved my first one-on-one date.
I went big on my first date with Kat – and had an even bigger surprise waiting for her. We were going to jump on a private plane to Salt Lake City and run in an Electric Run 5K. Before we left for the airport, Kat and I had a small picnic and got to know each other better. I learned about her past and how she moved out to Arizona for her job. She's been really career-focused and is now ready to find someone. I really liked that about Kat. Plus, she's beautiful and she likes to dance, so she was perfect for this date.
I cannot describe the energy of that Electric Run. All the music, neon colors and people … it was crazy. Kat and I don't even really like running, but this was so much fun. All kinds of people were running the 5K – families with little kids, older people – it was really a great mix of people. It was so funny seeing all the fans of the show rooting for Kat to get the rose as we were running the race.
The race was amazing, but the end on the stage was even better. It was funny being on stage. I kind of felt like a rock star. The crowd was loving us, and the music was blasting. Seeing Kat go with the flow on this very different date was really important for me to see. She definitely deserved that neon rose.
Models 'n' Mutts Group Date
I want to give two huge shout-outs to the Models 'n' Mutts organization and the Best Friends Animal Society of Los Angeles. Best Friends is an amazing charity that has saved so many dogs' lives. It was really great seeing Models n Mutts work with Best Friends to make this happen. I am a dog lover and grew up with a couple of them down in Venezuela.
It's almost impossible to have dogs now because I suffered a lot with my previous ones. My last dog was a Golden Retriever, and my dad, sister and I had to go to the veterinarian to put her to sleep because of cancer. It was one of the hardest things in my life. She was a family member I had to put to sleep.
I loved the idea of this photo shoot. Matching the dogs with the girls was a great idea, and I really got to see who was a good sport about doing things outside of their comfort zone. I also got to see who was good at taking care of their dogs. That was something I was secretly keeping my eye on. If they were good with their dog, then they would have at least a little sense of taking care of someone else.
The photo shoot was a lot of fun, especially with Renee and Cassandra. Cassandra's dog ended up eating the whole plate of spaghetti and meatballs. It was hilarious. I'm also so proud of Andi for overcoming her fear and really killing that photo shoot. I knew how hard that was for her, because it was hard for me as well, but I'm glad she did it for charity. The picture looked amazing at the end, and hopefully a dog's life will be saved because of it.
Ay, Lucy! I had no idea Lucy was topless so much. I don't love that she's like that, but at the end of the day, she's just a happy camper. That is who she is, and she's not going to change. Despite all the inappropriate behavior, she did help Elise, and I did respect that. She made Elise feel more comfortable, and she didn't have to do that. I liked that, but please, Lucy: Keep your top on.
That night I was really looking forward to getting to know all the girls better. Cassandra telling me she was a mom was something I wasn't expecting, but I was glad she was able to tell me. I don't blame her for waiting a week. She needed to get comfortable and pick the right time. Her son Trey sounds great, and I'm happy Cassandra is here. I definitely want to get to know her better.
My night was going great. I was having a really great conversation with Nikki when Victoria came around the corner and looked and sounded drunk. Before going on this adventure, that was one of the things I wished wouldn't happen. I do not like girls who get sloppy drunk. That's a big turnoff for me because I have a daughter and need Camila to always be around role models. I wanted to give Victoria the benefit of the doubt. I knew she was very nervous about everything, and I understand how tough this experience can be.
I wanted to talk to her after I had finished with Nikki to see how she was doing. From the little I saw in the bathroom, she was not doing well at all. I didn't see all the fireworks with Victoria after that, but wow. I don't even know what to say. Just wow. I really am thankful that Renee was there to take care of Victoria and make sure she was as safe as possible. Little things like that tell me a lot about someone like Renee and make me like her even more. She is a great mom.
The Rose Ceremony
I didn't have a date with Sharleen this week, so I was happy to have some time to talk to her. She definitely didn't need to apologize for how she waited to accept my rose last week. I'm just getting to know her, and she's just getting to know me. I know she feels out of place, but I see something there and will keep trying to make her feel relaxed so hopefully she opens up to me later on.
I hate the rose ceremonies, and even though I had to say goodbye to only two women, it was still a difficult decision. Amy L. and Chantel are great women, but I just didn't see a future there with them. I know each week will get tougher and tougher for me.
Well, that was a dramatic first week in the house. Keep watching next Sunday for some Bachelor love stories and more dates. I take a huge leap with a special girl, and I get to make my own futbol team with the girls in the house.
Gracias por ver y leer/Thanks for watching and reading.
Besitos/Kisses,
Juan Pablo
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The Bachelor's Chris Harrison: When Juan Pablo Said, "Ay, Victoria," You Knew She Was Toast
We're only on Episode 2, and already one of The Bachelor women was drunk and belligerent.
On the season's first group date, Victoria threw back a few too many and had an epic meltdown that including some choice words for Juan Pablo. After threatening to leave, Victoria ultimately crashed in a hotel room and awoke feeling just a tad embarrassed. For Juan Pablo, it was more than enough to send her packing before even making it to the cocktail party. Host Chris Harrison explains why the stunt was a complete turn-off for our sexy single dad and also shares some behind-the-scenes scoop on this week's one-on-one dates. Plus: Is Lucy for real?!
Both one-on-one dates went really well and looked like so much fun!
Chris Harrison: You know who helped us out with the electric run? Jef[Holm]; he was an integral part in setting that up. We went to Park City, Utah, for it and it was so cool. Juan Pablo is an athletically inclined guy, so it was great for him and when [he and Kat] stopped and danced on stage it was a lot of fun. For Clare's date, we turned this field in Los Angeles into the winter wonderland. Juan Pablo actually went out earlier with Camila because she hadn't really ever been around snow before, so they went ice skating and played in the snow and then he went back for the date.
Is Lucy for real? The girl is cuckoo.
Harrison: The thing about Lucy is that a lot of times you think they're putting on airs or it's an act, but I promise you that's 100 percent her. At some point, we said, "You need to put clothes on!" She's always naked, she never wears shoes and she just doesn't have a care in the world.
Does Juan Pablo actually like that though?
Harrison: I think [at first] he was attracted to that and she's stunningly beautiful, but then everything runs through this Camila family filter and you realize, wait a minute, is this going to be Camila's stepmom? No, I'm not sure that's going to work. He'll have to see more character, depth and maturity from her and she got a rose, but you'll see he's going to be like, we're having a good time, but there has to be more depth.
Victoria was the first girl to get wasted. What a disaster!
Harrison: He actually told the girls early on Night 1 that this isn't the place to get wasted-drunk and he also doesn't drink a lot. One thing about Juan Pablo you should know is that if he ever says, "Ay" and then a name, that's not good. So when he said, "Ay, Victoria," you knew she was toast. He's not a partier; he's subdued and family-oriented and not the guy who's going to be taking tequila shots.
Andi seemed to stand out on the group date even though she didn't get the rose.
Harrison: Definitely. He's very attracted to strong woman like her and Sharleen and he's really taken by intelligent women and the type who push back a little.
There's another Bachelor Sunday special coming up. What can you tell us about it?
Harrison: It's love from The Bachelor with all our couples. Trista andRyan renew their vows, we catch up with J.P. and Ashley and also the other couples who have come from the show. Des and Chris are also on and they're great, they're madly in love and hopefully we'll be doing their wedding. We're on a crazy roll lately!
The Bachelor airs on Mondays at 8/7c on ABC.
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Trista Sutter Picks the Top 3 Women Who Made the Best Second Impression on The Bachelor
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Pause that sneak peek at 00:47 and then take a look at these photos of JP, taken after he got back:
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Do you mean the bracelet? Like maybe it was a gift from one of the ladies? That video was so dark I couldn't see who was blabbing to Sharleen trying to stir up trouble? Lucy?
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