Ernesto Arguello - Ready For Love - Spoilers - Discussion

Not that this is going to shed light on anything specific, but did you guys listen to the recent interview Tim did with Courtney Kerr? He alludes to the fact that both Ernesto's and Ben's relationships were doomed from the start. Here's it is:

Litta123 wrote:Not that this is going to shed light on anything specific, but did you guys listen to the recent interview Tim did with Courtney Kerr? He alludes to the fact that both Ernesto's and Ben's relationships were doomed from the start. Here's it is:

great find litta! love this interview.

tim came right out and said ben and ernesto's relationships were doomed from the start. his comment was "i mean, i don't kow if its fair to say, but knowing the other two guys really well, i didn't see those other relationshps lasting anyhow, so they may have been doomed from the start."  as for his relationship, he also said, "we met on realty tv, but you know we met on a failed reality tv show..."

with the exception of eva and ernesto's get together in austin with some of the gang from rfl, tim has not been involved or has commented on anything regarding eva or ernesto.  he also didn't go to eva's master's graduation (unlike ben and ernesto). almost seems he's created some distance between himself and rfl, as well as eva, ernesto and ben. one big difference i think between tim and that trio is he's the only one who isn't a narcissist. my personal belief is he isn't exactly thrilled with eva, as he was led to believe (lied to) that the show wasn't being cancelled. if i remember correctly, he tweeted several times that the show wasn't being cancelled and it's time slot was only being changed.

Wait-A-Minute, IMO, Tim checked out of RFL when he saw how poorly Jenna was edited. I think he was pretty pi$$ed after the episode when Siham ripped Jenna a new one. At least that's what I recall...and that was my interpretation...from the tweets going on at the time.

I believe that was the Hawaii episode where Sarah Moore was sent home. When the RFL twitter asked if people agreed with his decision, Tim chimed in "NO!" That episode as well as the next one or two left Jenna in a poor light compared to Sara L...so that the show could build suspense towards who he picked. From Hawaii on, I felt that Tim checked out from promoting the show...or even being interested in it. He knew the outcome and didn't seem to be excited about how it was unfolding in the edit.

FWIW, I think Tim and Jenna are the real deal, but even as this interview suggests, they have built their relationship in a slow and steady way from the point the show was over. That is/was consistent with Jenna's belief and struggle that you really can't fall in love on a reality tv show.

Litta 123 & Wait a Minute:

Thank you for bringing Tim's interview here. I had realized early on that Tim was the real deal. I thought it was so sweet of him to give the 4 remaining girls flowers on the show. I agree that he has distanced himself from the Ernesto and Eva scenario. Jenna did send a "Great to see you and Eva together" tweet after their reunion, but Tim was silent. I also agree with you on the way they edited Jenna. Just from seeing what we saw of her on the show they always showed her either making a face at one of the other girls or shaking her head. They did show more of his relationship with Sara than with Jenna.

As for Ben. Right from the start he didn't impress me, he just didn't appeal to me. I was on the fence as to whether he was real or not but once I heard that he called Kari and begged her to come on the show, that did it for me.

And it is obvious that Ernesto was not sincere. I think the biggest thing that Ernesto got out of this was being able to now brag about dating a Miss USA. So Tim spent quite a bit of time with them and I'm sure it was easy for Tim to tell they were not honest about wanting a relationship. (Wouldn't you have wanted to be a little mouse during their conversations together.) So I don't think it was anything that either Angela or Shandi did wrong to warrant a breakup, it wasn't going to work no matter who they chose.

And that is what sticks in my craw so much is that they had these two guys on that they were well aware were just a couple of players and were not in it for a relationship. I mean, a couple of girls even quit their jobs to be on the show to meet Ben. And for both their families to describe them as kind, caring, considerate men was hogwash.

Maybe some would say that the girls should have known better, after all it's reality TV, but to me unless each girl for Ernesto and Ben were told, hey, this is just a show, neither of these guys are real and it's not going anywhere after the show, I just don't think it was fair to any of Ben or Ernesto's girls.

Sorry. Guess that's my sermon for the day.

one new theory about why eva and ernesto split has been put out by one of the tabloids. go to: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

the key comment was:

According to the Sept. 16th print edition of Star magazine it was actually politics that divided Eva and Ernesto. Eva is a very liberal left-wing woman and Ernesto’s leanings are conservative. This division ultimately meant that they weren’t in sync on some serious, life-altering topics and it caused a total stalemate between them.

not sure if i totally believe this. not sure how they could go from acting so lovey dovey to splitting up at the end of their trip to marbella. maybe it was something they were arguing about for some time and it came to a head in marbella, but that seems almost as much of a stretch as the "living on different coasts" storyline that was initially given as the reason for the split. still think there's more to this than meets the eye.

addition - just noticed another new story, this one from the inquirer and it says something a bit different: “Eva wasn’t as upset over the fact that Ernesto was broke as she was with being deceived into believing he was someone he’s not,” the source explained.

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I believe the NE. It makes sense in light of what has been uncovered re: his actual job/work or lack thereof, and his finances.

tigertiz wrote:I believe the NE.  It makes sense in light of what has been uncovered re: his actual job/work or lack thereof, and his finances.  

i think it is both. i think the more she spent time with him (and saw his background revealed) the more she realized he was a fraud, that she had been deceived into thinking he was someone he wasn't. he wasn't really successful, he really wasn't on the same page with her politically and he wasn't the entrepreneur he pretended to be. as i said long ago, ernesto was nothing more than a canard - a made for reality tv creation with no real substance. he didn't pass my sniff test from day one. obviously it took eva a little longer to figure it out. remember her tweet about having to fight the battle between what you know and what you feel. my guess is she slowly came to know he was a fraud and not right for her, but she obviously had feelings for him, even if only of the physical kind.

I believe both of the articles. If Ernesto is left leaning at all it would be moderate and not way left like Eva. And I also think Eva finally realized that Ernesto was not what he said he was. But we all know that she dated him way before April, so what took her so long to figure him out?

Am I the only one that thinks it's not classy to tell the world a guy is this or that? How about, it just didn't work out for us. Or do you believe that "You reap what you sow?"

Sorry to have to bring up Shandi again but how ironic is it that she goes on this show despite her family and friends being against it to meet a guy that was unlike the guys in LA. She said that it was so hard to date anyone in LA because you meet a guy, he travels in a big expensive car, then you find out he lives in a dump and has credit card debt up to his ears. So she goes on the show and meets Ernesto. Need I say more.

Laura Walsh wrote:I believe both of the articles.  If Ernesto is left leaning at all it would be moderate and not way left like Eva.  And I also think Eva finally realized that Ernesto was not what he said he was.  But we all know that she dated him way before April, so what took her so long to figure him out?

Am I the only one that thinks it's not classy to tell the world a guy is this or that?  How about, it just didn't work out for us.  Or do you believe that "You reap what you sow?"

Sorry to have to bring up Shandi again but how ironic is it that she goes on this show despite her family and friends being against it to meet a guy that was unlike the guys in LA.  She said that it was so hard to date anyone in LA because you meet a guy, he travels in a big expensive car, then you find out he lives in a dump and has credit card debt up to his ears.  So she goes on the show and meets Ernesto.  Need I say more.

no, you don't need to say more!!! though it bears repeating that shandi dodged an ugly bullet.

i don't think ernesto's family is left leaning at all. i believe his father left nicaragua right around the time of the sandinista revolution. so if his dad isn't left leaning, he probably isn't either. i also wonder why it took eva so long to figure him out. maybe it's sort of what tim said about having to start from scratch once he and jenna were able to take their relationship public. even if eva and ernesto were hooking up on and off over the past year, it wasn't until this spring that they started spending lots of time together. so a real relationship didn't start until then, at which point the truth about who he is and his real circumstance started to become known.

Truth be told.... Same reason Eva and Shandi thought 'he wasn't what they thought he was...' He is an aggressive, controlling man who wants his women to submit to him. I can't say how I know this but I know it to be true. He is nice and friendly to start and then demands a woman knows her position, which is beneath him. Eva is too strong to ever let a man control her. I think Shandi is too.
Ok. I can say no more.
(P.S. I am a good friend of Katie)

Iamasecret wrote:Truth be told.... Same reason Eva and Shandi thought 'he wasn't what they thought he was...' He is an aggressive, controlling man who wants his women to submit to him. I can't say how I know this but I know it to be true. He is nice and friendly to start and then demands a woman knows her position, which is beneath him. Eva is too strong to ever let a man control her. I think Shandi is too.
Ok. I can say no more.
(P.S. I am a good friend of Katie)

doesn't surprise me at all. it puts into even better perspective eva's tweet about how "The true lover  realizes that freedom is needed for loyalty to blossom"  ernesto wasn't someone who wanted to give her the freedom she wanted and obviously demanded. i can also see ernesto giving eva a hard time about her weight, which is why she made that twitter comment about the chocolate gift box, saying "This is such a cruel gift for someone (me) on a diet!!!"  i can just imagine ernesto demanding that she look a certain way. and then there's that picture of eva with that guy at the marbella event, which i would bet didn't make ernesto happy at the time - his woman embracing another man.

i don't need to give out more info bc I would never want to hurt shandi or angela. that is for them to say and clearly in their interviews they have been nice to not reveal the truth about ernesto or ben. meanwhile girls are going GAGA over ernesto and ben....WHY?!! WHATS SO GREAT.