Re: Ernesto Arguello - Ready For Love - Spoilers - Discussion

by Wait-A-Minute Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:15 am

Laura Walsh wrote:Wait-A-Minute

Thanks for straightening that out for me. I thought that was Beso in LA.

Is that the place she just opened in Las Vegas?

the place eva opened in Vegas - where those pictures were taken in February - was She by Morton's. it's a female-themed steak house, replete with mirrors on the menus (so you can check your lipstick) and a runway for fashion shows by models (that I guess they have on a regular basis). reviews i've seen were mixed, but it's still in business so i guess it's doing ok. i should add that it's really part of the Morton's chain and eva is just a partner in it, though it is located in the same space where the Las Vegas Beso's was.

by Wait-A-Minute Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:49 pm

it looks like the bubble has very quickly burst on the positioning of ernesto as some sort of hotshot businessman and entrepreneur. news broke today that in 2012 he filed for chapter 7 bankruptcy, claiming debts of about $4 million and assets of only about $1,500. (yeah, that fancy apartment he "owns" in miami beach isn't really his - his daddy obviously bought it for him after he graduated from college but it is legally owned by a corporate entity). in his defense, i will say that the bulk of the $4 million debt is actually tied to a loan he guaranteed for his corporate venture for a hotel property in miami. so filing bankruptcy is actually a smart way to shield yourself from the liability and a chapter 7 discharges the debts permanently so a person can start anew.

here's the link to the story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2359468/Eva-Longorias-new-entrepreneur-boyfriend-Ernesto-Arguello-bankrupt-racking-4M-debts.html

by Guest Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:35 pm

Wait-a-Minute and Laura - HOWDY!

I was just about to cast doubt on the $12 million net worth, when I read Wait-a-Minute's post above. In an attempt to make this appear as a relationship of equals, a lot of bogus and unsubstantiated information will be floated in the tabloids. This is all PR and hype. This is an acquisition, not a merger of equals.

In this life time I have crossed paths with all types of affluent people (both old and new money). Often, I can spot them from afar. We saw where Tim and Ben live on the show. Ernesto's home visit was very impersonal. I think he was the most closed off. Don't give me the privacy excuse. If he had the money he wouldn't have hesitated to give us a glimpse. After all part of the 3 bachelors' MO was to present themselves as successful (hence being "eligible").

A lot of new money folks (from Hollywood especially) fall into the habit of spending more than they make and that is very easy to do. The private jets, ridiculous purchases, poor business decisions (such as restaurant ownership) and conspicuous consumption in general trip them up all the time. The old money folks know how to hold on to their money for generations and that is very difficult to do. It requires a lot of discipline.

I am no Eva fan (as you can tell from my stinging posts and I apologize), but as a fellow woman I hope she makes sensible decisions. A prenup will be crucial for her because I sense con artist written all over Ernesto (may be I am being unfair, but there is just something about him that screams dishonesty to me). I am not buying the philanthropic angle either (sorry).

by Wait-A-Minute Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:48 pm

alondon wrote:Wait-a-Minute and Laura - HOWDY!

I was just about to cast doubt on the $12 million net worth, when I read Wait-a-Minute's post above. In an attempt to make this appear as a relationship of equals, a lot of bogus and unsubstantiated information will be floated in the tabloids. This is all PR and hype. This is an acquisition, not a merger of equals.

In this life time I have crossed paths with all types of affluent people (both old and new money). Often, I can spot them from afar. We saw where Tim and Ben live on the show. Ernesto's home visit was very impersonal. I think he was the most closed off. Don't give me the privacy excuse. If he had the money he wouldn't have hesitated to give us a glimpse. After all part of the 3 bachelors' MO was to present themselves as successful (hence being "eligible").

A lot of new money folks (from Hollywood especially) fall into the habit of spending more than they make and that is very easy to do. The private jets, ridiculous purchases, poor business decisions (such as restaurant owmnership) and conspicuous consumption in general trip them up all the time. The old money folks know how to hold on to their money for generations and that is very difficult to do. It requires a lot of discipline. I am no Eva fan (as you can tell from my stinging posts and I apologize), but as a fellow woman I hope she makes sensible decisions. A prenup will be crucial for her because I sense con artist written all over Ernesto (may be I am being unfair, but there is just something about him that screams dishonesty to me). I am not buying the philanthropic angle either (sorry).

i couldn't agree more with just about everything you said. i should also point out that if he were such a smart businessman, ernesto wouldn't have personally guaranteed any loan, let alone one for a LLC (the whole point of which is to limit liability on the part of the LLC's partners). in that regard, he broke a cardinal rule of business. that goes to your point about people with old money - they know how to protect it and those with new money tend more often to put it at risk in a foolish fashion. but don't cry for ernesto, his family is quite wealthy and that web of buisiness interests i pointed out in an earlier post generates lots of income, some of it on the backs of the non profit entities ernesto is involved with and form the basis for his "philanthropy".

by Guest Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:54 pm

Laura Walsh wrote:Just saw on Shandi's twitter that she tweeted "I know the truth and truthfully that's all that matters"

I wonder if that is cryptic for "Everyone thinks he broke up with me but I broke up with him." If this is so I wonder if she knows that supposedly he forced her to break up with him. Hmmmm

I think I read somewhere that Ernesto created circumstances that led Shandi to call it quits (such as ignoring her after the show. Ben, I hear did the same to Angela. It's their MO). Again, I believe the Affterbuzz TV host, who said that Shandi's soliloquy tweets posted some time in 2012 (not long after the taping of the show) led her to believe that Shandi's heart had been broken. So yeah I believe this is cryptic too.

by Guest Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:32 pm

avoice wrote:

I think it means that where as Eva is saying they got together recently, Shandi knows the actual truth of when they got together. And was hurt because of it.

BINGO

by Guest Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:50 pm

Wait-A-Minute wrote:

i couldn't agree more with just about everything you said. i should also point out that if he were such a smart businessman, ernesto wouldn't have personally guaranteed any loan, let alone one for a LLC (the whole point of which is to limit liability on the part of the LLC's partners). in that regard, he broke a cardinal rule of business.

Solid Point!

This is where things may get sticky for Eva. In relationships such as this, the unsophisticated male (who knows f*ck all about business) manages to convince the woman to invest her money in business ventures that he pulls out of his behind. It usually ends up in huge losses and chapter 7 (ask Cynthia from the Real Housewives of Atlanta). The insecurities of the men in such relationships can be so troublesome.

by Wait-A-Minute Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:02 am

a couple of more online stories about ernesto have hit the internet. it's not a flattering picture of ernesto. but then again, several of us saw this coming a long time ago. that bullet that shandi dodged keeps getting bigger and bigger.

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by Guest Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:25 am

Ok I am about to throw up all over again. Guess who is tweeting her support for Eva and Ernesto? KARI KRAKOWSKI!.

Kari Krakowski ‏@KariKrak 8h
@ernestoarguello @EvaLongoria I couldn't be happier for you, Ernesto! God works in mysterious ways. Glad y'all found each other!

"God works in mysterious ways"? I beg your pardon ??? Topnotch perspective f*ckwit! I guess Kari was pleased with the way Eva the Executive Producer of the show edited/portrayed her, and for that she is showing her gratitude.

Honestly, SOME of these Texas and bible belt people know how to mess with my head. Maybe the detractors are right about this girl. I am beginning to agree with my friend who thinks that the best decision Ben made on the show was to send this girl back to creepy Tanner (believe me, he has a compelling argument from a male perspective).

by Laura Walsh Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:10 am

Wait-a-Minute, Alondon,

About the Kari girl giving her best to Eva and Ernesto. It seems that everyone is kissing up to Eva. I'm sorry. To me girls should stick together. I wish just one of them had shown some sort of support for Shandi. Haley is the only girl that was at the reunion that didn't tweet anything about being happy for Ernesto and Eva.

Also, I figure that maybe Ernesto has bit off a little more than he cares to chew. Welcome to the world of celebrity. The hounds are going to be following him all over the place and they are going to look into every little detail of his life. The good, the bad and the ugly. Especially the ones that Eva and Ernesto thought they had out foxed. They may have a little more reason to want to do a little digging. I say, it couldn't happen to a better couple.

I usually am not a mean person but usually when you use and/or hurt someone that darn ole Karma takes over. So I'm just going to sit back and watch Karma do it's thing.

by Guest Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:21 am

Laura,
Are you saying other girls featured on the show have tweeted their support as well? The only other person I saw a tweet from was Alba, whom I do not take seriously. She is too emotional and doesn't sound very bright to me. It was clear to me from watching the show that Alba hates Shandi anyway. Their rivalry goes way back to their pageant days. This is why women don't rule the world. We do each other in.

by Laura Walsh Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:33 pm

alondon:

I have seen tweets from Jenna Reeves and Kristen. Most surprised about Kristen because Shandi said she and Kristen were the closest on the show.

They were at that reunion get together that Ernesto and Eva attended. Hailey was also there. And I'm not at all saying they shouldn't have gone to that reunion. But to afterward tweet to Eva and Ernesto that it was so good seeing them (eva and ernesto) together wasn't imo necessary and I'm pretty sure hurtful to Shandi. Like I said, Hailey was the only one that didn't follow up with a congratulation tweet.

And it's already been posted here about Kari, Amber and Tracy sending their congrats. Didn't hear of Matthew sending his. As far as Alba, never liked her, I think she has real self-esteem issues.

I could be making too much of it but just think that the girls on the show would have shown more compassion for Shandi.

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