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Post by Guest Fri May 31, 2013 2:49 pm

luvlady345 wrote:What I don't get is why is Sara's heart anymore important than Hailey's or Jenna's? She signed up to go on a reality show if she goes to the F2 an end up not being chosen why would some lose respect for Tim, it's like it's ok for Hailey or Jenna to be taken to the end and not chosen but not Sara, wow..
Thank You for posting this. Most people, the older we get, go through some hardship. IMO, it's never ok to use it for props. You don't know what the person next to you is or was going through. :claphands

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Post by Guest Fri May 31, 2013 2:57 pm

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Litta123 wrote:I'd like to share my perspective on how that pool scene appeared to me.

First, going into the water was Tim's idea, not Jenna's. Once they were in the water I was actually struck by how shy Jenna appeared to be. So often on the Bachelor/ette, water scenes result in the girl wrapping her legs around the guy. This was not Jenna's response at all. She clearly put both her legs to the side like she was sitting on Tim's lap. There was no tongue exchange in the kisses shown to us. When Tim and Jenna broke their kiss, Jenna dipped her head in kind of a shy way, waggled her eyebrows and then dipped her head into Tim's shoulder. In some ways, I think the whole thing might have caught her off guard. I thought it was a very cute first kiss...not a heavy makeout...certainly not slutty at all to me.

This was not Jenna's first alone time with Tim. According to Sarah Moore, Jenna had time in episode 1, but we didn't see it. We have no idea how long Tim and Jenna were talking before they went into the pool. So just to be clear, kissing Tim was not the first thing on either of their agendas with one another. I think it came out of an organic moment between them. Isn't that the best way to have your first kiss? That would be my preference.

Jenna doesn't need me to defend her, but I felt like she deserved to receive the benefit of the doubt on this, so I wanted to explain my perspective. Obviously, everything I said is my opinion of how I saw and experienced that date. I don't want to belabor this point...so we can move on.
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Post by Guest Fri May 31, 2013 3:01 pm

pistachio22 wrote:If this show were The Bachelor, Hailey would be the next Bachelorette. Most of the talk on this forum is about Hailey and how much everyone likes her and thinks she should have been Tim's pick, except for the fact that she wasn't edited as such.

OK. Tim said Jenna is such a "stunner." So we all get it, he is really attracted to THAT . . . her . . . Jenna. Her physicality just floats his boat. And it's like watching a train wreck . . . it could be a disaster, yet you can't look away. Jenna is an EASY pick for him... she doesn't have a burgeoning music career or art studio/teaching career halfway across the country. She is just out of college, lives locally, and she can follow Tim around and be his personal groupie. He doesn't have to "take her away" from any of that.

As far as Hailey goes, who hasn't been a Hailey? The kind of person who is there making it OK for a guy, allowing him a soft place to fall while he holds his breath waiting for another relationship to click. And it seems like you should be with that guy cause you treat him so well, you have a lot in common, your interactions are easy. But that person never gets the guy in the end... people always want what they can't (or think they can't) get. Jenna held back her feelings for long enough, then had the gift of timing in revealing them

By now, Hailey and the other person rejected (consensus is Sara, unfortunately) have most certainly moved on and Tim says he is happy, and I hope he is. I enjoyed watching his story. Just disappointed.

I didn't want to like Ben in the beginning because he was just 'too perfect' and I was cautious, expecting him to be arrogant. But I can see a certain vulnerability in him. Don't like Allie for him, my God, can you see the insecurity that will geyser out the minute she has a PMS moment? TOO MUCH DRAMA!! Glad Tarryn is gone, she was soul-less. Wished he could have made it work with Renae, really liked her.... but look at Kari. She was so full of herself. Ben goes for that energy. Renae was the "Hailey" of Ben's group of girls.

Looking forward to the final episode, by then I will have time to get over Tim letting go of Hailey. hissyfit
You put your finger on why I liked Renae so much. Ben: I see him as naive. He's successful in business but he's a babe in the woods when it comes to the ladies. IMO, it's why Kari was able to twist him around. Also, in scene after scene, he's asking everyone else what he should do.

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Post by provenceguy Fri May 31, 2013 5:43 pm

luvlady345 wrote:What I don't get is why is Sara's heart anymore important than Hailey's or Jenna's? She signed up to go on a reality show if she goes to the F2 an end up not being chosen why would some lose respect for Tim, it's like it's ok for Hailey or Jenna to be taken to the end and not chosen but not Sara, wow..

Yup!! Couldn't agree more.
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Post by cantstopwatchin Fri May 31, 2013 7:06 pm

Not that it really matters but ... we haven't seen Jenna's finale dress yet...

Some thought the dress she's wearing in this PI was the finale dress but I realized it's the dress she wore while walking on the beach -

PI from Meet the Girls' Parents Episode

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Dress while on beach with Tim (sorry, there really weren't any good shots of it but earrings and bracelet are the same) -

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Post by 2observe Fri May 31, 2013 7:40 pm

cantstopwatchin wrote:Not that it really matters but ... we haven't seen Jenna's finale dress yet...

Some thought the dress she's wearing in this PI was the finale dress but I realized it's the dress she wore while walking on the beach -

PI from Meet the Girls' Parents Episode

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Dress while on beach with Tim (sorry, there really weren't any good shots of it but earrings and bracelet are the same) -

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As usual, CSW comes thru again. Thank you for identifing the blue dress as not being Jenna's F1 gown. That was the one thing that convinced me that Jenna was F1. bowdown
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Post by kraft33 Fri May 31, 2013 7:48 pm

Wow, interesting! Sure did think dress was from finale. What about the finger nails though? Beach date they are french manicure and PI they are pink?

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Post by cantstopwatchin Fri May 31, 2013 8:11 pm

Oh, good catch on the nails! I think this was one of those occasions where they went back to do a PI because here are her nails at that week's elimination - they're short and pink like the PIs. (Sorry couldn't get better pictures; she moved her hands around every time they showed her hands.)

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Post by Bet2Win Fri May 31, 2013 9:27 pm

These look a lot pinker
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than these
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no idea
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Post by Guest Fri May 31, 2013 9:33 pm

I don't know when she changed her nails or when this PI was done, but I think we can rule this out as the finale dress.

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Post by cantstopwatchin Fri May 31, 2013 9:58 pm

Bet, the lighting is different on stage - Guiliana's dress looks darker

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Post by lovinlife Fri May 31, 2013 10:58 pm

I dont think that anyone is saying one's heart ache is less than someone else's but in this case, I disagree with the comments. Jenna is a 23 year old that seems care free and didnt have much passed heartbreak to speak of. Hailey had an upbeat personality and never discussed any passed relationships. But Sara seems to have been in seclusion and hasnt seen her family since the death of her fiancé a year ago. The poor man was ill for 4 years and she watched that and stood by him. This is the first attempt at putting herself out there and she obviously has fallen for Tim and has a reason to believe in love again. Yes he knows she is "there" as her father told him and she told him. So if she isnt his choice it will be super sad for her. If it were Jenna from day one the thoughtful thing to do would be to let her go earlier. Even if he confided in her that he is in love and didnt want to hurt her. The audience didnt have to hear that.
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