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Post by CHO Tue May 14, 2013 5:08 pm

I don't feel he is into Sara. The whole interraction seemed kind of stiff to me. She is the one that says she watns to meet his family etc - I am feeling the pressure and I wasn't even there ! Sara and Tim do have a lot in common - but I am not feeling the flirty fun - too serious...
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Post by Guest Tue May 14, 2013 5:13 pm

Beb wrote:
Lost17 wrote:
Beb wrote:
that boy had his paws ALL OVER Miss Sara today.
Not quite. He hardly looked at her while she was singing, wouldn't that be the moment you'd want to connect with someone? She was trying to get him to move in and connect a few times, but he wasn't doing anything. He had his hand on her leg when they were first kissing, then his hand touching her face a little...but not all in like he is with Jenna, his stares and hands are all in with her. Of course we all see something different. :gotcha:

Ummm...okay...there may have been a guitar - and a general fear of falling off pointy rocks - in the way...but maybe not as panty-dropping. Give ya that.
Pretty sure he had PD with Leah too. :0
Maybe, who knows except them...but thankfully not on the show and she's gone so someone wasn't feeling it like she was.

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Post by Beb Tue May 14, 2013 5:17 pm

Spencer81 wrote:Beb, haha, you crack me up! He told Sara he has been missing her since their date and it was a beautiful moment for him too. There was a lot of splicing with their date, one moment he has his arm down, :Drool: the next his hand is under her chin, then his arm is around her.. oh and the hand on her thigh.... I couldn't keep up..

Always happy to entertain Spencer81! Hope you're Dad is doing ok...

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Post by Beb Tue May 14, 2013 5:18 pm

"Your" Sorry. ppl already think I'm an idiot.

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Post by LoveThisStuff Tue May 14, 2013 5:22 pm

I really think at this point in the game Hailey and Jenna are on the same level (though I think he probably does choose Jenna just because of those darn boxes!). Yes, there has been more physical connection with Jenna but it seems like he feels more sincerity and openness from Hailey. I think he probably sees that with Sara too but to me their personalities don't match up. I think the MM were spot on when they talked about Tim not being able to totally let loose and be himself with Sara. I think he gets the best of both worlds with Hailey.
If he ends up with Sara I will be very suspicious that they cut out a lot of their time together and we didn't get the whole picture of their relationship building.

clapping! Hey, do I get an award for identifying Sarah M. on the jet ski?
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Post by Spencer81 Tue May 14, 2013 5:42 pm

Me too, Lovethisstuff, I thought that was her too.. She's a sweet girl. Felt kinda bad for her.
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Post by LoveThisStuff Tue May 14, 2013 5:46 pm

Also, Jenna's eye rolling came across as really disrespectful to me. I've not really been a fan of hers since the beginning but that was just based more on the vibe she gives. Her behavior in this show actually made me dislike her a little.
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Post by Litta123 Tue May 14, 2013 5:48 pm

Beb wrote:Yeah...I just hope everyone hasn't fallen in love with the Jenna theory...and we end up missing Sara (or someone else's) clues. I can see the storyline going any number of ways at this point...and thankfully, the producers have given us stuff to chew on instead of it all being Tim making out with Jenna. They're starting to tell us a story (finally.)

Since there are very few eps left, it's looking like it has to be Sara or Jenna? Right? Or could something happen with his family that would bring Hailey and/or Siham back into the mix? Missing some sleuthing, that's all. And not convinced (yet) that all the great sleuthing done up to now pointing to Jenna wasn't orchestrated by producers. Litta, hit me with your 3 best clues again. Have we discussed to death? Just covering bases.

Are they:
1. LA events
2. Boxes
3. Jenna with Tim's friend in the background?

Beb, I'm not sure I can prioritize them as the top three...and I'm not sure I can limit them to just three, but I'll try to answer your question. I know that many of these are subjective, and I'm not wanting to argue them as much as I want to explain why I have concluded it's Jenna. As a mathematician, I look for patterns...and I see a lot of patterns related to Jenna being F1.

1. LA events -- okay, so yes, this is my TOP reason.

2. After reading through Jenna's tweets since the show, multiple times, I experience her to be an emotional tweeter. Meaning that if she's having a good day, if she's happy or if she's aggravated, you can tell. Her tweets immediately after the show indicated a very happy girl. The day Tim's song with the the Wind and the Wave was released, Jenna retweeted from Amber, "@amber_kelleher 2 Apr You are somebody's reason to smile. #love #relationships". These are just a couple of examples. Most interesting, though, is what appears to be her reaction and her Dad's reaction on twitter when those Hollywood photos were discovered on this site. It was evident they were watching here. Since then, she has been more measured and reserved in her tweets. I interpret it to be that she's trying to be careful.

3. Her post show schedule has her in LA multiple times when Tim is there. She also happens to be in Austin when Tim is there as well, meaning she's not hanging in LA when Tim isn't. How does a new college grad have the financial freedom and flexibility to do all that? It not evident that she was pursuing other opportunities like modeling for example.

4. The number of times she seems to be on or near Lake Austin...again when Tim is there. I haven't really posted about this, but I could if you want me to. Also, remember the Trail of Light photos?

5. Near Valentine's Day she changes her FB cover photo to a picture of Lake Austin (see below). This photo used to show up in her public timeline. It no longer does for me. I interpret it as her silent shout out to her guy which she can't acknowledge otherwise. Yes, this is my interpretation. She also gets to go to the F.U.N. concert and go backstage. How does she have an in to do this? Tim's photo on VD seems to be in Austin...not elsewhere like TN.

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6. The screen cap at the finale, where Tim sings to his F1, looks like Jenna to me. (I know this is debatable.) I have a 27" Mac so the cap is quite large on my screen. I see Jenna's funky hairline.

7. Jenna is the only girl Tim's sister, Kaitlin, is FB friends with. Jenna and Hailey are the only girls Colette (Tim's Mom) is FB friends with. Tim is FB friends with Jenna's Mom.

8. Tim and Jenna have a mutual friend in Austin, Eirian. She posted an a comment on the VD photo about wishing she could sincerely like this more than once. Wouldn't this be hurtful/disloyal to Jenna if Jenna is not F1? Surely Eirian would know Jenna was a girl who was on the dating show with Tim.

9. The guy at the party who looks like Tim's friend.

10. As Lost mentioned earlier, to me the screen cap body language with Jenna is way more intense than it is with Sara. In most of the caps of Tim and Jenna I often see gaps...again, this is subjective so I'm not going to argue it. Either you see it or you don't.

Beb, I'm stopping at this point...maybe this is more than you wanted to know...





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Post by Beb Tue May 14, 2013 5:56 pm

LoveThisStuff wrote:Also, Jenna's eye rolling came across as really disrespectful to me. I've not really been a fan of hers since the beginning but that was just based more on the vibe she gives. Her behavior in this show actually made me dislike her a little.

Also, on Sara L. Ben Patton noted on Afterbuzz that Sara's circumstances in general (and her fiance sharing Tim's name) - would have added a level of stress/uncertainty for him if he was in Tim's shoes.

He was saying how it was easier, particularly under the pressure of the show, to be around and "dating" the girls that were unburdened/more carefree - at least at first. (he specifically mentioned Jenna, Sarah M. and Hailey - although he had to dig for Hailey's name.) Said there was already way too much inorganic pressure to begin with. I thought that was an interesting comment to make. Not sure what to read into it.

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Post by Beb Tue May 14, 2013 6:05 pm

Litta123 wrote:
Beb wrote:Yeah...I just hope everyone hasn't fallen in love with the Jenna theory...and we end up missing Sara (or someone else's) clues. I can see the storyline going any number of ways at this point...and thankfully, the producers have given us stuff to chew on instead of it all being Tim making out with Jenna. They're starting to tell us a story (finally.)

Since there are very few eps left, it's looking like it has to be Sara or Jenna? Right? Or could something happen with his family that would bring Hailey and/or Siham back into the mix? Missing some sleuthing, that's all. And not convinced (yet) that all the great sleuthing done up to now pointing to Jenna wasn't orchestrated by producers. Litta, hit me with your 3 best clues again. Have we discussed to death? Just covering bases.

Are they:
1. LA events
2. Boxes
3. Jenna with Tim's friend in the background?

Beb, I'm not sure I can prioritize them as the top three...and I'm not sure I can limit them to just three, but I'll try to answer your question. I know that many of these are subjective, and I'm not wanting to argue them as much as I want to explain why I have concluded it's Jenna. As a mathematician, I look for patterns...and I see a lot of patterns related to Jenna being F1.

1. LA events -- okay, so yes, this is my TOP reason.

2. After reading through Jenna's tweets since the show, multiple times, I experience her to be an emotional tweeter. Meaning that if she's having a good day, if she's happy or if she's aggravated, you can tell. Her tweets immediately after the show indicated a very happy girl. The day Tim's song with the the Wind and the Wave was released, Jenna retweeted from Amber, "@amber_kelleher 2 Apr You are somebody's reason to smile. #love #relationships". These are just a couple of examples. Most interesting, though, is what appears to be her reaction and her Dad's reaction on twitter when those Hollywood photos were discovered on this site. It was evident they were watching here. Since then, she has been more measured and reserved in her tweets. I interpret it to be that she's trying to be careful.

3. Her post show schedule has her in LA multiple times when Tim is there. She also happens to be in Austin when Tim is there as well, meaning she's not hanging in LA when Tim isn't. How does a new college grad have the financial freedom and flexibility to do all that? It not evident that she was pursuing other opportunities like modeling for example.

4. The number of times she seems to be on or near Lake Austin...again when Tim is there. I haven't really posted about this, but I could if you want me to. Also, remember the Trail of Light photos?

5. Near Valentine's Day she changes her FB cover photo to a picture of Lake Austin (see below). This photo used to show up in her public timeline. It no longer does for me. I interpret it as her silent shout out to her guy which she can't acknowledge otherwise. Yes, this is my interpretation. She also gets to go to the F.U.N. concert and go backstage. How does she have an in to do this? Tim's photo on VD seems to be in Austin...not elsewhere like TN.

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6. The screen cap at the finale, where Tim sings to his F1, looks like Jenna to me. (I know this is debatable.) I have a 27" Mac so the cap is quite large on my screen. I see Jenna's funky hairline.

7. Jenna is the only girl Tim's sister, Kaitlin, is FB friends with. Jenna and Hailey are the only girls Colette (Tim's Mom) is FB friends with. Tim is FB friends with Jenna's Mom.

8. Tim and Jenna have a mutual friend in Austin, Eirian. She posted an a comment on the VD photo about wishing she could sincerely like this more than once. Wouldn't this be hurtful/disloyal to Jenna if Jenna is not F1? Surely Eirian would know Jenna was a girl who was on the dating show with Tim.

9. The guy at the party who looks like Tim's friend.

10. As Lost mentioned earlier, to me the screen cap body language with Jenna is way more intense than it is with Sara. In most of the caps of Tim and Jenna I often see gaps...again, this is subjective so I'm not going to argue it. Either you see it or you don't.

Beb, I'm stopping at this point...maybe this is more than you wanted to know...


No Need. I know the rest. Was just looking for a refresher. Once again, it's all pretty convincing. :Clap: Well done Litta!

I've covered Hailey to the best of my ability and it's not anywhere near as convincing (Other than the weirdness about moving to Austin (pysch) And I still think the dang purple shirt is Tim!)

Has anyone done/been able to get into Sara's world? Is Siham even a consideration?


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Post by Guest Tue May 14, 2013 7:14 pm

Beb wrote:
Has anyone done/been able to get into Sara's world? Is Siham even a consideration?
Maybe in her own mind, laugh out loud! Not a chance.

As for being in the F2 I see Hailey there more than I do Sara.

Litta wow on all that info, nice seeing it all together! yes

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Post by Guest Tue May 14, 2013 8:13 pm

Here is a new theory...what if none of the girls work out and Tim takes Sarah up on her suggestion that he call her when he's through with the show? This is consistent with his tweet today. He seemed genuinely sorry to have to let her go.

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