Re: Sean & Catherine - The Bachelor 17 - Thread #2

by notguilty Sat May 04, 2013 11:47 pm

JMO - I do not find Maks attractive but he looks like he is in control with the women on the dancefloor that makes him hot I guess for some women.

by cimcoe Sat May 04, 2013 11:48 pm

atem wrote:
cimcoe wrote:
atem wrote:I asked earlier about the whole 'born again virgin' thing. Seems that Sean did mention it to Nate (who didn't believe there is such a thing). Was it mentioned at all on the show?

I did not watch Sean's season so I may not be a good person to answer this lol, but it was my understanding that he never used the phrase "born again virgin" on the show. I am pretty sure I saw an interview with Sean post show (but I don't recall where. Jimmy Kimmel maybe?) where Sean said he is not the one that came up with that phrase and it was something the media came up with and that he doesn't understand it because you are either a virgin or you aren't. Did Nate on twitter say that Sean used that exact phrase "born again virgin"?

Yes. Nate specifically said that he started to not to believe Sean when he said he was a born again virgin. I believe it's still up there. It's under nate_hartsock83.

Thanks. I checked and it sounds to me like Sean told Nate that he was a virgin, and then Nate himself used the phrase 'born again virgin' after someone tweeted him saying Sean isn't really a virgin. So I think Nate is using that phrase that he's heard from the media, but that while filming the show, Sean had told him just virgin. Hmmm, telling Nate he was a virgin would be even less accurate than telling him he was a born again virgin. Unless Sean really is a virgin. Did he say himself he had sex in college or did we get that info from 'sources'?

Here are the tweets about it (deleted the other person's full name):

Nathanael Hartsock ‏@nate_hartsock83 14 Mar
Since people keep asking..I called @seanlowe09 a playboy because I felt he was lying to me about being a virgin. #bachelor

Nicole XXXX ‏@xxxxx 14 Mar
@nate_hartsock83 I don't think he said he was a virgin lol, he meant at some point he vowed not to have sex again until he got married.

Nathanael Hartsock ‏@nate_hartsock83 14 Mar
@xxxxx I gotcha, A " born again virgin", which makes no sense either you're a virgin or not..

by atem Sun May 05, 2013 12:02 am

Yeah, but that's my point. Sean did bring it up, so maybe it was someone in production?

by Guest Sun May 05, 2013 12:15 pm

atem wrote:Yeah, but that's my point. Sean did bring it up, so maybe it was someone in production?

Perhaps there was a scene which we weren't shown where Nate calls him a playboy and Sean said he is waiting until marriage. Nate took that to mean he was saying he was a virgin. Sean didn't owe him even that explanation, but I could see him saying that because he was clearly offended by Nate. I guess technically that is not the whole truth, but as it pertains to Nate's comment, it was a statement about who he is now and how wrong Nate was to call him a playboy. Just a guess. At any rate, by the time he sent those tweets, he should have had the maturity to look at his own behavior in that situation, instead of still be calling Sean out. That says more about Nate, than Sean. I hope Des left him out of her season.

by northernviewer Sun May 05, 2013 12:39 pm

I believe Nate. He had no agenda, just relaying details. The more that comes out, explains why Des's brother didn't like him. Didn't CH say that everything went well at the beginning of the visit and then Nate didn't an about face.....no wonder, after hearing him make that claim. Why wouild Sean even bring that up I wonder??

by Guest Sun May 05, 2013 12:53 pm

northernviewer wrote:I believe Nate. He had no agenda, just relaying details. The more that comes out, explains why Des's brother didn't like him. Didn't CH say that everything went well at the beginning of the visit and then Nate didn't an about face.....no wonder, after hearing him make that claim. Why wouild Sean even bring that up I wonder??

What more has come out to back up Nate calling him a playboy? I believe that Nate picked up on Sean not being that into Des, but I don't understand the whole playboy thing. He jumped from maybe this isn't a match, to this guy is just a player. Whatever you think about Sean, we haven't exactly seen any playboy inclinations.

by atem Sun May 05, 2013 1:01 pm

grace8136 wrote:
northernviewer wrote:I believe Nate. He had no agenda, just relaying details. The more that comes out, explains why Des's brother didn't like him. Didn't CH say that everything went well at the beginning of the visit and then Nate didn't an about face.....no wonder, after hearing him make that claim. Why wouild Sean even bring that up I wonder??

What more has come out to back up Nate calling him a playboy? I believe that Nate picked up on Sean not being that into Des, but I don't understand the whole playboy thing. He jumped from maybe this isn't a match, to this guy is just a player. Whatever you think about Sean, we haven't exactly seen any playboy inclinations.

Ok, how about Horn Dog then? giggling

by Guest Sun May 05, 2013 1:06 pm

atem wrote:
grace8136 wrote:
northernviewer wrote:I believe Nate. He had no agenda, just relaying details. The more that comes out, explains why Des's brother didn't like him. Didn't CH say that everything went well at the beginning of the visit and then Nate didn't an about face.....no wonder, after hearing him make that claim. Why wouild Sean even bring that up I wonder??

What more has come out to back up Nate calling him a playboy? I believe that Nate picked up on Sean not being that into Des, but I don't understand the whole playboy thing. He jumped from maybe this isn't a match, to this guy is just a player. Whatever you think about Sean, we haven't exactly seen any playboy inclinations.

Ok, how about Horn Dog then?

He seems almost asexual to me or just really inexperienced. The kissing was so awkward. no no

by northernviewer Sun May 05, 2013 1:15 pm

i think the whole playboy thing is just about a guy wanting to do the Bach and not so much actions that he had seen. I think it was more about her brother calling bullshit to his claim of being a virgin, and deducing that he was just a player using a line.

by Ally Sun May 05, 2013 4:17 pm

northernviewer wrote:I believe Nate. He had no agenda, just relaying details. The more that comes out, explains why Des's brother didn't like him. Didn't CH say that everything went well at the beginning of the visit and then Nate didn't an about face.....no wonder, after hearing him make that claim. Why wouild Sean even bring that up I wonder??

Just like with AshLee, I have no reason to believe Sean over them. All we know about them is from a scripted manipulated show and some media.

by Love_Me Sun May 05, 2013 6:46 pm

I posted this in the Fan thread and it should go here as well:

Everyone is entitled to share their opinions. Not everyone is going to agree. That is to be expected.

However, some posts lately have been very condescending and mean spirited. If you don't agree with something someone says and you can't be respectful when stating why you disagree then don't reply at all.

Skip those types of posts and move on to the next one. If someone violates the rules San and I will handle it.

Thank you.

ETA: Some posts throughout the Forum (this entire site) might be edited or deleted.

by Kashathediva Sun May 05, 2013 7:47 pm

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Rumored to be branching out from his business The Factory Girl for newly formed business The Golden Girl! Inventory will include high end laxatives, exotic stool softeners and the HurryCane!
I bet she does a mean samba! Cat forget about Peta, and watch out for Yetty!
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