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by Admin Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:33 am
Please share any fun pics/photoshops/etc in this thread as it relates to this season. :)
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by california90 Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:37 am
omg, i am dying. i am also gonna point out that 'sexy' is on zack's ass.
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by Love_Me Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:46 am
sanlee088 wrote:Please share any fun pics/photoshops/etc in this thread as it relates to this season.
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:LMBO: This is great, San!
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by atem Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:03 am
sanlee088 wrote:Please share any fun pics/photoshops/etc in this thread as it relates to this season.
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This is hilarious!
Anything I post means it's Just My Opinion. Don't feel like posting it every time I post. So, I thought I'd get that out of the way.
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by dflynn Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:37 pm
So fun and creative! Great job!!
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by JBF Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:01 pm
Astrology is bunk
So said one of Desiree’s ex-boyfriends, Sean Lowe. He may be right. Many take it way too seriously. I personally think people often display some of the “textbook sign” traits from time to time (maybe it is all cultural influence), but you obviously can’t cookie cutter everybody into any one type. Likewise, “incompatible” signs don’t necessarily have doomed relationships… common sense tells you that everything requires work.
Whether you “dig” this stuff or not, I went ahead and did match-ups with the four bachelors we have birthdays for so far. We can add more later… especially since all four of these may be dumped any day now! Have to give a special thanks to sophienette for rounding up some of these for us to have fun with.
All of the stuff below, except for my brief intros, I didn’t make up, but edited down and consolidate from the following links (What? You think I’m an expert on all of this?):
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At this site, you plop two birthdays and press the magic button… so, I don’t have to be the only one doing this as we get more for matching up: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
First up: What signs does Desiree have?
A quick rundown: (07/01/1986 Planetary positions at noon time: Sun 9-Cancer / Moon in Taurus / Mercury 3-4-Leo / Venus 18-Leo / Mars 20-Capricorn / Jupiter 22-Pisces / Saturn 4-Sagittarius / Uranus 19-Sagittarius / Neptune 4-Capricorn / Pluto 4-Scorpio / Chiron 17-Gemini / N. Node 27-Aries)
Like Roseanne Barr back in the ‘80s, she is proud to be a Domestic Goddess. This Cancer/Taurus combo loves the occasional spotlight (Mercury and Venus in Leo) and plenty of travel (those Sagittarius planets), but is always sighing huge relief when she makes it back to home sweet home… even if home was never the ideal others perceive as home. With Mars in Capricorn, she has an obsession for micromanaging, discipline and maintaining order in her surroundings… and with other people. No Sean, that broken art piece gag was not funny. The best match for her is somebody with enough “earth” signs (i.e. Capie, Taurus and Virgo) since he would have a better understanding of why she operates this way, security issues included. The Sagittarius planets and Jupiter in Pisces makes her quite philosophical and religiously inclined.
Dezie has no air signs apart from a key asteroid Chiron (Gemini) and her South Node. Therefore, it is a good idea to hook up with somebody who has, since she is a bit shy and awkward about the whole “intellectualizing and socializing” bit.
In any case, these are just four guys, perhaps all potential “dumpees” with either a Mystery Man yet to identified by Reality Steve or one the other named contestants we don’t have a birthday for being the future Mister Hartsock. (Yeah, he may need that nickname since Mars in Capricorn ladies love to wear the pants too.)
As she dumps each one, week by week, we can get a humorous “clue” as to what marital bliss would have been like between them. Granted, anything “negative” here can easily be fixed by something “positive”, so none of these guys are TOTALLY incompatible with her.
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Juan Pablo Galavis (August 5, 1981: Rochester NY)
(Sun 13-Leo, Moon in Libra, Mercury 8-Leo, Venus 14-Virgo, Mars 12-Cancer, Jupiter 5-Libra, Saturn 5-Libra, Uranus 26 Scorpio, Neptune 22-Sagittarius, Pluto 21-Libra, N. Node 1-Leo)
Usually Leos are a bit on the arrogant side, but his Cancer Mars (same degree as Kasey Stewart’s Mars in fact… hmmmm… interesting) makes him a bit more expressive in his emotions than some of the others. Of course Desiree wants a couple traits in common with her Sun sign. The one “danger zone” here is that his Jupiter/Saturn in early Libra is battling with her Sun, so they may be clashing here with some their goals in life. As mentioned above, all of these matchups have something going for them so anything I snatched online and posted below that suggests conflict may be compensated by something else.
With that said, of the four here, he is probably the most challenging for her, but she may need a good one at this point of her life.
SUN in CANCER with LEO
Both take life very personally, probably more personally than they realize. Feelings and pride are easily wounded by criticism or lack of appreciation from the people they care about. There can be an unusually warm loving bond, though temperaments are quite different. He is very proud and wants recognition, appreciation, respect, and love from a partner. She wants to be needed and desires sympathy, tenderness, and emotional support from a partner. He has difficulty accepting and expressing needs, sadness, or weakness, and is uncomfortable when she expresses doubts, insecurities, weaknesses, or moodiness. He is often the more dominant of the two and is likely to take the lead in the relationship, which is fine with her, who has no need to be on top.
Moon Taurus/Moon Libra
Steady practicality meets assertive thought. Both seek domestic harmony, deep personal relationships, to enjoy partnership, and avoid anger or unpleasantness. Both are artistic, appreciate the enjoyment of fine things. She enjoys tactile communication with nature, He enjoys a wider interest in literature, cosmopolitan culture, and intellectual stimulation. He has greater diplomacy; she a magnetic attractiveness. She can fall into a predictable routine in relationships, feeling totally committed; he desires romantic gestures in order to maintain romantic interest. Taurus is ruled by Venus; Libra is also ruled by Venus. Venus expressed materially and through thought. A Moon in Taurus - Moon in Libra sign comparison is rather like the energies of a Venus quincunx Venus aspect. The partners desire to experience the same things through different senses, but little things have them projecting their imperfections on each other so that they are seldom satisfied with the way things are until they learn to make subtle adjustments in their own behaviors.
Major “aspects”:
His Sun square Her Moon: Her romantic and domestic needs are likely to be challenged by his other primary goals.
His Sun conjunct Her Venus: They have increased closeness and consideration for each other’s physical desires, romantic love and joyful expressions of domestic harmony.
His Sun trines Her Uranus: They can create an inspiring, interesting and truly progressive relationship. There is an easy flow of encouragement and support; he boosting up her confidence and assisting her to transcend conventional thinking and create lasting change across society.
His Moon squares Her Neptune: He can feel confused when attempting to nurture her. She is often inspiringly illusive and mysteriously attractive but has an underlying intuition that all is not quite the way it seems. He never feels certain of where he stands today or tomorrow, or what intentions lie beneath her changeable surface. Yet he feels a powerful spiritual connection.
His Mercury conjuncts Her Mercury: The similarities in the manner in which they speak and think are striking. Both minds seem to be wired to approach problems and to handle mental tasks in similar ways. This fact can help them to understand each other, or, of course, it can get on their nerves from time to time. Much will depend on how comfortable they are with their own mental temperaments.
His Mercury trines Her Saturn: They find it easy to share practical information, make long term plans and organize domestic routines. They think in similar, serious, strategic ways and can both focus on the task and hand while keeping eyes on mutual ambitions.
His Mercury quincunx Her Neptune: They have religious or philosophical differences which can easily be blown out of all proportion. An overly optimistic assessment gives them a tendency to expect too much or anticipate a greater outcome than is realistically possible.
His Mercury squares Her Pluto: His interactions with her are raising repressed and unresolved relationship issues from subconscious to conscious levels. The impact of day to day frustrations is intensified because they are really dealing with what appears to be today’s issues, but what are in fact a compilation of every upset she has repressed or avoided in her past.
His Venus sextiles Her Sun: They share a desire for cooperation and harmony in their romantic relationship. They graciously accept each other’s support of ideas in domestic matters.
His Venus trines Her Moon: There is an easy flow between them and a mutual appreciation, sensitivity and receptiveness to each other’s comfort and enjoyment.
His Venus squares Her Uranus: She desires freedom and spontaneity in this romantic relationship, and a feeling of candid surprise in sexuality. Structure and domestic conformity to established ideas doesn’t excite her interest. Her irregular attentions give their relationship an unpredictable quality which he may struggle to understand and which gives him a feeling of instability.
His Mars conjunct Her Sun: There is a real physical connection between the two that generally presents itself as sexual attraction and physical chemistry. There is a true feeling of progressiveness and energy. The potential to both challenge each other and frustrate each other is somewhat high, but generally both feel that they are headed somewhere with each other, and personal energy cycles are boosted as the result of interaction. Sexual attraction is very high. Both feel the other person is their "type", and each tends to get a real ego boost and energy buzz from their partner. Arguments tend to be highly personal and subjective.
His Jupiter squares Her Sun: Both feel they are right and find it hard to understand why it is so difficult for the other to understand their basic philosophy of what a relationship should be like. His energies will seem to blow minor issues out of proportion. This is a learning experience. They were brought together because each has something the other needs and there is something in the other’s views that contains energies each can adopt.
His Jupiter squares Her Neptune: He is likely to believe that together as partners they can do anything; just being together amplifies imagination, hope, and idealism far beyond any realistic expectation of odds. He tends to trust in luck to make the most extravagant wishes into reality. She is more aware that carelessness, irresponsibility and excess can spiral their relationship and lives out of control.
His Saturn squares Her Sun: Both desire to achieve their goals but find themselves challenged by the demands of the other. He may make her feel such a sense of heaviness, seriousness, or obligation that she is not comfortable in his company, but it is highly unlikely that she will be willing to leave with any unfinished issues between them.
His Saturn squares Her Neptune: He cannot seem to find substance or a feeling of security in their relationship when he considers (in his view) a lack of practicality and common sense; demanding that she settle down and takes responsibility is not productive. She may feel loss of self esteem and creativity when her demands that she face reality and adopt his way of doing things. She may feel he just doesn’t understand her creative process.
His Uranus trines Her Jupiter: This relationship is based upon openness, freedom, a desire for innovation and change, and is an active intellectual and philosophical experiment created out of an idealistic spirit. As a couple they are likely to be a “one of a kind,” spontaneously outrageous example of everything conventional minds and traditionalists are afraid of.
His Neptune trines Her Venus: They have a natural attunement with each other's feelings and ideas, creating a loving atmosphere, receptive to each other’s moods, music, aesthetics, taste, interests. He, in particular, reaches toward higher potentials of love and partnership through this romantic experience. She is deemed the inspiration for his creativity, releasing him from the bounds of the mundane.
His Neptune squares Her Jupiter: He likely believes they can do anything together; idealism far beyond any realistic expectation of odds. They tend to trust in luck to make the most extravagant wishes into reality.
His Pluto sextiles Her Venus: He feels incredibly close to her, sexually moved, profoundly attracted, willing to unburden a lifetime worth of secrets in order to stand naked in her gaze (figuratively speaking), and willing to turn his back upon the world if it will win her love and attention.
His Pluto squares Her Mars: They struggle over power, over dominance, over sex, over possessiveness, but they can also use these energies to focus on cooperating and directing them toward a shared objective. Forces outside will challenge this relationship often. The intensity of fury generated is second only to the passions both carry and the power they can raise to overcome obstacles. He will be challenged by a desire to penetrate to the essence and uncover hidden truth, no matter where that may take both of them.
His Pluto quincunx Her Jupiter: They likely test the bonds of truth, inner faith and personal convictions and should be very careful of overstepping individual authority or stepping out of legal bounds. This aspect can have expansive consequences, and comes equipped with a karmic “kick me” sign which pretty much wipes out her chances of getting away with anything she might feel guilty about. He may potentially force her to adjust her beliefs or moral values.
His North Node conjuncts Her Mercury: Communication between the two is likely to be excellent. He is highly receptive to her ideas, and admires her intellect. She opens up his mind to different ways of thinking. Indeed, it is her role in this relationship to guide him to their future, in regards to ideas and communication. On the downside, she also communicates in a way that may make him feel slightly uneasy or uncomfortable. As such, he may feel exhausted at the amount of mental activity that goes on between the couple.
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Chris Siegfried (December 12, 1985, somewhere in Washington)
(Sun 20-Sagittarius, Moon in late Sagittarius or early Capricorn, Mercury 0-Sagittarius, Venus 11-Sagittarius, Mars 28-Libra, Jupiter 14-Aquarius, Saturn 3-Sagittarius, Uranus 18-Sagittarius, Neptune 2-Capricorn, Pluto 6-Scorprio, N. Node 8-Taurus)
I am guessing his Moon sign is in late Sagittarius, but it could be in early Capricorn… which could cause a bit of trouble here. Then again, it might not since “opposites attract”. However, they seem to share a bunch of Sagittarius signs here. Intriguingly, both he and Kasey have late Libra planets close to her South Node and this hints that both remind her of people in her past… in Chris’ case, some of the feistier ones since he has Mars there.
It appears that Chris was cast by production to play some sort of “therapy” role for her, regardless if she chooses him in the end or not, getting her over some obstacle she has in relationships. That is, if he gets a 1 on 1 date with her.
SUN in CANCER with SAGITTARIUS
The natures are so different that these are bound to clash at times. Very often when he feels the urge to travel, explore, expand, and follow a new star, she feels just the opposite the urge to be close to family, to establish roots, to have children and provide for them, to be near close friends. His desire for freedom and exploration is often at cross purposes with her need for security. He tends to also be philosophical and detached about personal matters while she takes a much more personal, subjective, compassionate, and emotional approach to life. Although in theory these differences can complement each other, and sometimes they do, there are times when they have to be very creative and imaginative to find ways to meet everyone's needs.
Moon Taurus/Moon Sagittarius
Steady practicality meets changeable passion. Taurus and Sagittarius have very different, and often conflicting, emotional needs and yearnings. She wants stability in a harmonious relationship filled with material goodies to sensually experience; he wants freedom and adventure, travel to new places, mental stimulation. She likes a familiar, natural setting; He likes nature but also desires to be where the action is. She lives in the present and steadfastly builds future; he visits the now but lives for the future. Both can be generous and a bit laid back tending to let each other have what they need. She can be indulgent of a partner, while he can gloss over present time problems concentrating on tomorrow. Taurus is ruled by Venus; Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter. A Moon in Taurus - Moon in Sagittarius sign comparison is rather like the energies of a Venus quincunx Jupiter aspect in this relationship. There will be challenges to this relationship between them over financial issues; what he views as the good life, she sees as excessive spending and risk taking. She will indulge him up to a point, but then stubbornly attempt to impose ideas about financial stability.
Major “aspects”:
His Sun trines Her Venus: He’s very content and wealth and material possessions could attract easily. This is a very true love but it may lack real passion unless they have other factors which are uniting them.
His Sun squares Her Jupiter: Both partners will feel right and find it hard to understand why it is so difficult for the other partner to understand their basic philosophy of what a relationship should be like. His energies will seem to blow minor issues out of proportion.
His Sun conjuncts Her Uranus: He’s attracted to her unconventional side and willing to support her desires to take risks.
His Mercury trines Her Mercury: Mutual understanding and intellectual harmony exists between them. Communication is easy and pleasurable.
His Mercury conjunct Her Saturn: He’s able to solve problems, work on serious issues, and focus on practical concerns because of her influence, but may feel inhibited about sharing thoughts and ideas which would not meet with approval. She tends to talk about and discuss practical plans and avoid idle chatter with him. Positively, they do an excellent job together on mutual goals which require the gathering and organization of information.
His Venus quincunx Her Sun: They have very different ideas about how to create a romantic and domestic relationship. That’s what intrigues them and attracts them. There’s something about the way she looks and acts that he finds very attractive because it is fresh and novel and so different from his ideas. They inspire each other but will find themselves having to adjust and adjust or let all of the “little things” drive them to frustration.
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She may drain the energy of and act as a restrictive influence on him. He may feel she impedes upon his actions. Nevertheless, she is irresistibly attracted to him, and he readily gives her personal pleasure. He also supports her actions and strives to further their goals.
His Jupiter opposite Her Venus: They don’t share the same philosophy of life and this can tend to interfere with feelings of love and romance. His extravagance, eternal optimism, and free spirited approach toward life can create frustration in her when she considers her place in life along side him. His expansive feelings and good fellowship which she finds so attractive are at times matched (in her view) by an irresponsibility and self concerned preoccupation with personal independence that it can trouble her philosophy of love and the roles of partners in romantic relationships. They each have something important to learn from each other’s viewpoints, and will need to learn it if this love is going to continue to expand.
His Saturn conjuncts Her Saturn: They give each other structure, meaning, and purpose. Both know that the other is a very reliable, practical, hardworking partner that can organize activities to efficiently carry out long term plans for material security and advancement. Their dedication to mutual service and creating a traditionally supportive relationship is truly worthwhile. Step by step, they will build a future as they deepen the bonds between each other.
His Uranus trines Her Venus: This relationship may seem a bit odd or unusual to outsiders but they are attracted to openness, unconventionality, and freedom from limiting ideas. They have a willingness to experiment with life, love, and sexuality. They like breaking the rules and enjoy the differences between them as much as the similarities. Progressive ideas about love, romance, and domestic relationships make theirs a unique partnership which seeks to mirror their ideals of innovation and independence.
His Neptune quincunx Her Mercury: His imagination may play too much a part in his thinking and responds as much to wishful thinking as he does to what is going on between the two of them. She still admires his intuitive powers but often not his logical prowess.
His Pluto trines Her Sun: This brings potentials for great sexual passion and cooperative power. This romantic and domestic partnership flows on higher and lower harmonics simultaneously, raising consciousness as well as physical energies.
His Pluto square Her Mercury: Her interactions with him may raise repressed and unresolved relationship issues from subconscious to conscious levels. The impact of day to day frustrations is intensified because they are really dealing with what appears to be today’s issues, but what are in fact a compilation of every upset he has repressed or avoided in his past.
His South Node conjuncts Her Pluto: These two have a certain “karmic” connection. In other words, there’s a feeling they have known each other before… some would say in a past life, while others who don’t believe in that stuff would say earlier in this life but somehow forgotten over time. Certain unresolved feelings that either has been suppressing are brought up between the two.
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Kasey Stewart (July 17, 1983 in Oklahoma)
(Sun 24-Cancer, Moon in late Libra, maybe early Scorpio, Mercury 3-Leo, Venus 4-Virgo, Mars 12-Cancer, Jupiter 1-Sagittarius, Saturn 27-Libra, Uranus 5-Sagittarius, Neptune 27-Sagittarius, Pluto 26-Libra, N. Node 24-Gemini)
Several have said Kasey resembles Zac Afron in a way. That just might be because his Moon (maybe… don’t have an exact time for him), Saturn and Pluto are all in late Libra, two of these are definitely at 26-27 degrees, just two degrees off the star’s Sun sign. Kasey’s Venus is 4 degrees Virgo, the star’s Moon is 4 degrees Virgo.
As with Chris above, there is some action going on with Desiree’s South Node here, making Kasey somebody she feels she knows already… in a way. Again, it is as if the people screening him must have seen something they thought might be good “therapy” for her. Whether this is just for the time of shooting or continuing post-show in a relationship, I can’t answer that. Don’t know and can’t determine anything at this stage.
In many other aspects, they seem pretty compatible provided she understands he may be more disciplined than she is. Granted, her Capricorn Mars craves sharing discipline with the man she loves. It appears that she relates to Kasey a little more on a mental and structured level, while Zack’s connection with her (listed below) is little more physical and unstructured. As we all know, the latter does not always guarantee a necessarily better hookup.
SUN in CANCER with CANCER
Both are very sensitive, sympathetic and emotional, with moods that shift and change like the tides. Though they may hide behind a shell of equanimity or indifference, they are really very easily hurt and take almost everything personally. Both have deep feelings for, and sentimental attachments to, the past, home and family, or anything or anyone once had a close affiliation with school, home town, friends, etc. If the backgrounds are very different, this may be more of a problem for these two than it would be to other people, because their identification with their origins is so strong. Both need to be needed, and desire a very close, secure, loving and protective relationship. Family or domesticity is extremely important. Because of their empathy for one another, and similar temperaments, they could blend quite well together.
Moon Taurus/Moon Libra
Steady practicality meets assertive thought. Both seek domestic harmony, deep personal relationships, to enjoy partnership, and avoid anger or unpleasantness. Both are artistic, appreciate the enjoyment of fine things. She enjoys tactile communication with nature, He enjoys a wider interest in literature, cosmopolitan culture, and intellectual stimulation. He has greater diplomacy; she a magnetic attractiveness. She can fall into a predictable routine in relationships, feeling totally committed; he desires romantic gestures in order to maintain romantic interest. Taurus is ruled by Venus; Libra is also ruled by Venus. Venus expressed materially and through thought. A Moon in Taurus - Moon in Libra sign comparison is rather like the energies of a Venus quincunx Venus aspect. The partners desire to experience the same things through different senses, but little things have them projecting their imperfections on each other so that they are seldom satisfied with the way things are until they learn to make subtle adjustments in their own behaviors.
Major “aspects”:
His Sun opposite Her Mars: This brings a touch of defensiveness and competitiveness into their chemistry. He may find her way of doing things somewhat annoying from time to time, and she may react with defensiveness. There is a bit of "I can do things better than you" or "This is the way things should really be done" in this relationship. There is physical attraction between the two, no doubt, but sometimes they may waste their time getting on each other's cases.
His Sun trines Her Jupiter: She always seems to give him the benefit of the doubt, and trusts his good heart at the end of the day. They can help each other by opening up new doors, new avenues of expression, and building up self-confidence. Even if there are more somber cross-aspects in the synastry of this relationship, this one offers truly fun moments that smooth over differences at the end of the day. Together, they can envision wonderful things, and together can also overdo pleasurable things, simply because of the confidence stimulated between them.
His Mercury conjuncts Her Mercury: The similarities in the manner in which they speak and think are striking. Both minds seem to be wired to approach problems and to handle mental tasks in similar ways. This fact can help them to understand each other, or, of course, it can get on their nerves from time to time. Much will depend on how comfortable they are with their own mental temperaments.
His Mercury trines Her Saturn: She helps him to structure his thoughts, plan his life, and give form to his ideas. She listens well, guides, and disciplines him in mostly pleasing ways. They tend to solve relationship problems through careful, step-by-step, and logical communication. Conversations may be on the dry or serious side at times, however.
His Mercury quincunx Her Neptune: He may complain that she is too vague and indefinite in her communications with him.
His Mercury squares Her Pluto: His interactions with her are raising repressed and unresolved relationship issues from subconscious to conscious levels. The impact of day to day frustrations is intensified because they are really dealing with what appears to be today’s issues, but what are in fact a compilation of every upset she has repressed or avoided in her past.
His Venus sextiles Her Sun: They share a desire for cooperation and harmony in their romantic relationship. They graciously accept each other’s support of ideas in domestic matters.
His Venus squares Her Saturn: They face something that restricts their time together. There’s something about each other’s viewpoints regarding romantic love and family that each can’t quite bring themselves to trust. She may have problems with intimacy. Even if she is normally very generous, something is cautioning her to slow down and find out what it is she really needs.
His Venus trines Her Neptune: He reaches toward higher potentials of love and partnership through this romantic experience. She is deemed the inspiration for his creativity.
His Venus sextiles Her Pluto: He feels incredibly close to her, sexually moved, profoundly attracted, willing to unburden a lifetime worth of secrets in order to stand naked in her gaze (figuratively speaking), and willing to turn his back upon the world.
His Mars conjuncts Her Sun: There is a real physical connection between the two that generally presents itself as sexual attraction and physical chemistry. There is a true feeling of progressiveness and energy. The potential to both challenge each other and frustrate each other is somewhat high, but generally both feel that they are headed somewhere with each other, and personal energy cycles are boosted as the result of interaction. Sexual attraction is very high. Both feel the other person is their "type", and each tends to get a real ego boost and energy buzz from their partner. Arguments tend to be highly personal and subjective.
His Jupiter trines Her Mercury: He is especially enthusiastic about her thoughts and ideas, stimulating her to learn more, and to expand her opinions. Conversations can be lively, positive, and inspiring.
His Jupiter conjuncts Her Saturn: This romantic relationship will grow over time. Patience and steady dedication to mutual goals will be rewarded substantially. Material abundance and accomplishment are the result of balancing practicality with optimism.
His Saturn conjuncts Her South Node: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] : South Node energies are very similar to Saturn energies, so this relationship is likely to be very “heavy” and serious. At the same time, this bond is said to be “unbreakable”. The feeling of commitment to each other is strong, and it can be difficult to separate from one another. On the other hand, this aspect is also regarded as a “separative aspect,” as in, the relationship between the two may never fully get off the ground. Saturn represents restriction, so this aspect indicates there may be significant barriers between the two, which impedes on their ability to form a real relationship. (His Pluto also conjuncts Her South Node)
His Uranus trines Her Mercury: Intellectual relationship is lively. Conversations about unconventional approaches to living or inventive technology give both inspiration and increased mental vigor.
His Uranus conjuncts Her Saturn: They are at the crossroads. She intended to go straight down the road she's been traveling, a road built on permanence, security, discipline, and maintaining solid boundaries, but now he suddenly confronts her with the necessity of making choices. He will need to show her new ways of doing things. When faced with the new she will seek to cling to the past, the old ways, the sure path but his influence will certainly tempt her to reevaluate the possibilities. One way or another, this won't be an easy ride.
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Zack Kalter (September 19, 1984: Anaheim, California… too close to Disneyland)
(Sun 26-27-Virgo, Moon in Cancer, Mercury 10-Virgo, Venus 22-Libra, Mars 19-Sagittarius, Jupiter 3-Capricorn, Saturn 13-Scorpio, Uranus 9-Sagittarius, Neptune 28-Sagittarius, Pluto 0-Scorpio, N. Node 29-Taurus)
It will be most entertaining to watch these two on screen. No clue if he has been dumped yet or not. If he makes it to Fantasy Suite time, they will become twice as entertaining to watch on screen. Oh I am sure Desiree will act all prudish in interviews and insist nothing happens to be ashamed of, provided there is no strawberry consumption involved.
Desiree is a Water/Earth combo and Zack is Earth/Water and both have Cancer as their water sign here.
SUN in CANCER with VIRGO
Both are inclined to mood changes that, at times, can irritate each other. For example, she experiences periods of melancholy, tenderness, concern, worry, nostalgia and sentimentality, which he may not understand or sympathize with. He can suddenly become irritated and irascible over minor annoyances, and at such times, is capable of intense sarcasm and criticism, which can be extremely disconcerting to her tender, sensitive feelings. He must be prudent, and she must strive to be forgiving when things go a little awry. However, both are capable of enormous devotion to one another and to their children if they have them, and taking care of one another comes naturally to them.
Moon Taurus/Moon Cancer
Steady practicality meets assertive feeling. Both have similar domestic agendas, they like to share food, nurture children, have a tranquil and harmonious home environment, have deep family attachments, feel comfortable in familiar surroundings, and approach change cautiously. She is emotionally steady; he tends to be moody. Both are acquisitive, patient and intuitive. Venus is the ruler of Taurus, the Moon rules Cancer. A Moon in Taurus - Moon in Cancer sign comparison acts rather like a Venus sextile Moon aspect in this relationship. Her desire to share sensual pleasures and steady romantic attraction creates a feeling of emotional security for him opening the door to opportunities to express its sensitivity, nurturance, and intuition in a harmonious domestic environment.
Major “aspects”:
His Sun trine Her Mars: It is easy for them to master challenges, relate sexually, feel free with self expression, and cooperate toward mutual goals. She finds him very responsive to her desires, encouraging her to go after what she wants and dare to be her best. He admires her spunk, drive, and courage. They often turn to each other to pull themselves out of ruts or periods of despondency.
His Sun opposite Her Jupiter: Excess is associated with Jupiter and if it exists, it does stem from good intentions. If either over-indulges the other, it is because both have a deep need to make one another happy. She has the power to lift his spirits up, which is a powerful, natural, and positive "drug". At times, they expect a little too much of each other and of the partnership. They may overspend and overdo, and the focus may be on pampering each other and perhaps overlooking some of the nitty-gritty details of existence.
His Sun square Her Uranus: There is nothing predictable--or stable--about their interactions. This relationship likely began in a sudden or surprising manner, but it might also end just as suddenly. They came together to explore new and perhaps unconventional ways of relating--not for a predictable, stable, and traditional partnership. She is a bringer of change into his life, and challenges him to accept her desire for individuality. He may find her extremely attractive and exciting, but might eventually grow tired of the seemingly constant upsets, rebellious moments, and impersonal attitude. In some cases, the circumstances surrounding the partnership are such that they are separated at key moments (long-distance and other non-traditional relationships), which can undermine the relationship over time.
His Moon conjunct (about) her Sun: Traditionally, this is considered a very helpful aspect in a romantic relationship and certainly in a marriage, where each understanding and affinity for the other will be naturally very high. She, in particular, has an easy time relating to his feelings and emotional needs.
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The conjunction of the Sun and the Moon in synastry is a powerful connection. How it plays out will have much to do with the condition of these luminaries in the individual charts. Attraction to one another is usually there regardless, perhaps felt most by the Moon person initially. As a relationship develops between the two, a dynamic inevitably emerges in which the Moon person plays a supportive role (sometimes a dependent or submissive role) to the Sun person, who tends to lead the relationship in some manner.
A note should be made about gender and whose Moon and whose Sun is involved. Although both ways is powerful, in some cases when the man's Moon conjuncts the woman's Sun, problems arise. This happens when the man feels uncomfortable in his role as the moody, sympathetic, and somewhat dependent Moon -- a role that he might assign to women. In this day and age, however, either male or female playing the role of the Moon to the Sun may feel some kind of resentment over time. Just as the Moon reflects the Sun's light, the Moon person is naturally inclined to play a supportive and sometimes submissive role to the Sun. It doesn't need to be submissive--instead, it can be considered supportive. How comfortable the Moon person is with this role is critical. In the same vein, the Sun person's comfort levels with playing the role of the Sun should be considered as well. Not everyone wants to be the leader in a relationship!
His Moon trines Her Jupiter: There is a natural joy, generosity and good fortune that comes with this aspect. They tend to give freely of their feelings and are able to express gratitude openly and willingly. There are times when they are excessive or too effusive, but most of the time people love your infectious and vibrant energy.
His Mercury trine Her Moon: He feels she understands him, enjoys their conversations and is she’s attracted to his ideas. Good communication is the basis for lasting relationships and domestic harmony. She finds it easy to converse with him.
His Mercury square Her Saturn: There may still be strong elements of teaching and learning in this relationship, as well as deep respect for each other's intelligence. However, over time, there can be a subtle competitiveness between them on a mental level that can actually be quite destructive if not attended to. He can feel intimidated by her practicality. She can be silent often.
His Mercury trine Her Neptune: Their thoughts blend well, even telepathically. She also increases his interest in music, poetry, art, and a pursuit of inner spiritual development.
His Venus square Her Mars: This is likely to be a fiery relationship. The romantic attraction between them is very strong, but feelings may not be in tune with each other. One (typically her but sometimes him) may feel sexually aroused by the other and consequently be too aggressive in approach. The conflict here is all in the timing. He may sometimes find she comes on too strong, and is often offended or taken aback by her directness. Jealousy and possessiveness are also likely. Feelings can swing back and forth and these two may not realize how much they love each other until they are away from each other.
His Venus sextile her Uranus: Life is naturally exciting when they are together. They share some perhaps unusual interests, and are usually accepting of one another's social life, tastes, and hobbies. There may be something pleasingly unconventional about this set-up. Love doesn't easily become routine for the two of them. With her, he feels more open to experimentation, especially when expressing himself sexually.
His Mars trine Her Venus: They are quite sexually attracted and uninhibited, well matched in creativity, passion, and find it easy to express themselves. It is unlikely that the feeling of being "in love" will ever fade completely, and it is likely both see each other as someone very special and dear throughout their lives. She is enthralled with his "body ego", and he is equally turned on by her.
His Mars square Her Jupiter: Both generate a lot of positive energy, enterprising ideas, and a belief that they can do anything they really want to; but approach love, sex, and romantic relationships in different ways. Competition invigorates and challenges them both. They are apt to feel restless, discontented, and dissatisfied unless they can harness this competitive energy. Expect arguments over who has the better approach when ideally they should be taking a third approach and join forces.
His Mars conjunct Her Uranus: He often desires to try something really new, something different, perhaps shockingly unconventional, and always has the right partner to do it with. Explosive temperament, uninhibited or somewhat experimental adventures in sexuality, and desire for a steady diet of change will insure that neither one of them gets bored. She had better love surprises, since he loves to break rules, take risks and is always in the mood to shake things up. Wild things.
His Jupiter trine Her Moon: Over time, he becomes increasingly sensitive of her feelings and is happier, luckier, more daring and optimistic when she is around. They have compatible outlooks, an interest in expanding their horizons, and in trying new adventurous experiences.
His Jupiter conjunct Her Neptune: Personal and mutual expansion and growth are very much a part of this relationship. They are more likely to take risks based more upon an abundance of confidence in beliefs than upon practical considerations. His presence seems to brighten her spirit, expanding an awareness of infinite potentials and possibilities. They look at the world as it could be and as they would like it to be. This sense of idealism can potentially blow compassion out of all proportion to their present means.
His Saturn trine Her Sun: This creates an easy flow for each other’s realization of goals which will enhance mutual security and material status. There’s an emphasis outward on achievement and can lead to wealth and prosperity.
His Saturn opposite Her Moon: Sometimes she may feel restricted by his serious outlook and approach to life and their relationship. She feels his attitudes can be limiting or inhibiting her. Either way they are both right, but find themselves connected to this partnership by their mutual need for security. Different points of view are the reasons they were attracted to each other in the first place. Each needs a bit of what the other one has and takes as the only natural approach to things.
His Saturn square Her Venus: Although this relationship may begin with a strong feeling of comfort and compatibility, over time, some very challenging dynamics are likely to surface. He, fearing her withdrawal of affection, loyalty, or respect, can easily become critical or demanding of her. In response to his critical demeanor, she may withhold affection. A vicious circle can quickly occur. She could begin to view him as unsympathetic, and he could come to view her as childish and undisciplined. Care should be taken to avoid getting into this negative cycle. It will be important for them to maintain an adequate social life, as the tendency with this interchart aspect is to appease one another's jealous nature by cutting oneself off from hobbies, social activities, and pleasures outside of the relationship. They may be critical of one another's tastes and hobbies, but at the root of this is some form of jealousy over the attention that each give to outside interests. Commitment and loyalty to one another will be vital, but also the source of some friction.
His Saturn conjunct Her Pluto: There is an inner resiliency and strength which both will discover and a sense of self worth that can break the chains of self invalidating negativity and to begin life anew in a direction of each own choosing. All this comes with a price. Emotional difficulty and material scarcity can stress this partnership but add to the closeness they share. This partnership is teaching her about drawing boundaries and creating lasting values.
His Pluto square Her Mercury: Her interactions with him may raise repressed and unresolved relationship issues from subconscious to conscious levels. The impact of day to day frustrations is intensified because they are really dealing with what appears to be today’s issues, but what are in fact a compilation of every upset he has repressed or avoided in his past.
So said one of Desiree’s ex-boyfriends, Sean Lowe. He may be right. Many take it way too seriously. I personally think people often display some of the “textbook sign” traits from time to time (maybe it is all cultural influence), but you obviously can’t cookie cutter everybody into any one type. Likewise, “incompatible” signs don’t necessarily have doomed relationships… common sense tells you that everything requires work.
Whether you “dig” this stuff or not, I went ahead and did match-ups with the four bachelors we have birthdays for so far. We can add more later… especially since all four of these may be dumped any day now! Have to give a special thanks to sophienette for rounding up some of these for us to have fun with.
All of the stuff below, except for my brief intros, I didn’t make up, but edited down and consolidate from the following links (What? You think I’m an expert on all of this?):
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First up: What signs does Desiree have?
A quick rundown: (07/01/1986 Planetary positions at noon time: Sun 9-Cancer / Moon in Taurus / Mercury 3-4-Leo / Venus 18-Leo / Mars 20-Capricorn / Jupiter 22-Pisces / Saturn 4-Sagittarius / Uranus 19-Sagittarius / Neptune 4-Capricorn / Pluto 4-Scorpio / Chiron 17-Gemini / N. Node 27-Aries)
Like Roseanne Barr back in the ‘80s, she is proud to be a Domestic Goddess. This Cancer/Taurus combo loves the occasional spotlight (Mercury and Venus in Leo) and plenty of travel (those Sagittarius planets), but is always sighing huge relief when she makes it back to home sweet home… even if home was never the ideal others perceive as home. With Mars in Capricorn, she has an obsession for micromanaging, discipline and maintaining order in her surroundings… and with other people. No Sean, that broken art piece gag was not funny. The best match for her is somebody with enough “earth” signs (i.e. Capie, Taurus and Virgo) since he would have a better understanding of why she operates this way, security issues included. The Sagittarius planets and Jupiter in Pisces makes her quite philosophical and religiously inclined.
Dezie has no air signs apart from a key asteroid Chiron (Gemini) and her South Node. Therefore, it is a good idea to hook up with somebody who has, since she is a bit shy and awkward about the whole “intellectualizing and socializing” bit.
In any case, these are just four guys, perhaps all potential “dumpees” with either a Mystery Man yet to identified by Reality Steve or one the other named contestants we don’t have a birthday for being the future Mister Hartsock. (Yeah, he may need that nickname since Mars in Capricorn ladies love to wear the pants too.)
As she dumps each one, week by week, we can get a humorous “clue” as to what marital bliss would have been like between them. Granted, anything “negative” here can easily be fixed by something “positive”, so none of these guys are TOTALLY incompatible with her.
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Juan Pablo Galavis (August 5, 1981: Rochester NY)
(Sun 13-Leo, Moon in Libra, Mercury 8-Leo, Venus 14-Virgo, Mars 12-Cancer, Jupiter 5-Libra, Saturn 5-Libra, Uranus 26 Scorpio, Neptune 22-Sagittarius, Pluto 21-Libra, N. Node 1-Leo)
Usually Leos are a bit on the arrogant side, but his Cancer Mars (same degree as Kasey Stewart’s Mars in fact… hmmmm… interesting) makes him a bit more expressive in his emotions than some of the others. Of course Desiree wants a couple traits in common with her Sun sign. The one “danger zone” here is that his Jupiter/Saturn in early Libra is battling with her Sun, so they may be clashing here with some their goals in life. As mentioned above, all of these matchups have something going for them so anything I snatched online and posted below that suggests conflict may be compensated by something else.
With that said, of the four here, he is probably the most challenging for her, but she may need a good one at this point of her life.
SUN in CANCER with LEO
Both take life very personally, probably more personally than they realize. Feelings and pride are easily wounded by criticism or lack of appreciation from the people they care about. There can be an unusually warm loving bond, though temperaments are quite different. He is very proud and wants recognition, appreciation, respect, and love from a partner. She wants to be needed and desires sympathy, tenderness, and emotional support from a partner. He has difficulty accepting and expressing needs, sadness, or weakness, and is uncomfortable when she expresses doubts, insecurities, weaknesses, or moodiness. He is often the more dominant of the two and is likely to take the lead in the relationship, which is fine with her, who has no need to be on top.
Moon Taurus/Moon Libra
Steady practicality meets assertive thought. Both seek domestic harmony, deep personal relationships, to enjoy partnership, and avoid anger or unpleasantness. Both are artistic, appreciate the enjoyment of fine things. She enjoys tactile communication with nature, He enjoys a wider interest in literature, cosmopolitan culture, and intellectual stimulation. He has greater diplomacy; she a magnetic attractiveness. She can fall into a predictable routine in relationships, feeling totally committed; he desires romantic gestures in order to maintain romantic interest. Taurus is ruled by Venus; Libra is also ruled by Venus. Venus expressed materially and through thought. A Moon in Taurus - Moon in Libra sign comparison is rather like the energies of a Venus quincunx Venus aspect. The partners desire to experience the same things through different senses, but little things have them projecting their imperfections on each other so that they are seldom satisfied with the way things are until they learn to make subtle adjustments in their own behaviors.
Major “aspects”:
His Sun square Her Moon: Her romantic and domestic needs are likely to be challenged by his other primary goals.
His Sun conjunct Her Venus: They have increased closeness and consideration for each other’s physical desires, romantic love and joyful expressions of domestic harmony.
His Sun trines Her Uranus: They can create an inspiring, interesting and truly progressive relationship. There is an easy flow of encouragement and support; he boosting up her confidence and assisting her to transcend conventional thinking and create lasting change across society.
His Moon squares Her Neptune: He can feel confused when attempting to nurture her. She is often inspiringly illusive and mysteriously attractive but has an underlying intuition that all is not quite the way it seems. He never feels certain of where he stands today or tomorrow, or what intentions lie beneath her changeable surface. Yet he feels a powerful spiritual connection.
His Mercury conjuncts Her Mercury: The similarities in the manner in which they speak and think are striking. Both minds seem to be wired to approach problems and to handle mental tasks in similar ways. This fact can help them to understand each other, or, of course, it can get on their nerves from time to time. Much will depend on how comfortable they are with their own mental temperaments.
His Mercury trines Her Saturn: They find it easy to share practical information, make long term plans and organize domestic routines. They think in similar, serious, strategic ways and can both focus on the task and hand while keeping eyes on mutual ambitions.
His Mercury quincunx Her Neptune: They have religious or philosophical differences which can easily be blown out of all proportion. An overly optimistic assessment gives them a tendency to expect too much or anticipate a greater outcome than is realistically possible.
His Mercury squares Her Pluto: His interactions with her are raising repressed and unresolved relationship issues from subconscious to conscious levels. The impact of day to day frustrations is intensified because they are really dealing with what appears to be today’s issues, but what are in fact a compilation of every upset she has repressed or avoided in her past.
His Venus sextiles Her Sun: They share a desire for cooperation and harmony in their romantic relationship. They graciously accept each other’s support of ideas in domestic matters.
His Venus trines Her Moon: There is an easy flow between them and a mutual appreciation, sensitivity and receptiveness to each other’s comfort and enjoyment.
His Venus squares Her Uranus: She desires freedom and spontaneity in this romantic relationship, and a feeling of candid surprise in sexuality. Structure and domestic conformity to established ideas doesn’t excite her interest. Her irregular attentions give their relationship an unpredictable quality which he may struggle to understand and which gives him a feeling of instability.
His Mars conjunct Her Sun: There is a real physical connection between the two that generally presents itself as sexual attraction and physical chemistry. There is a true feeling of progressiveness and energy. The potential to both challenge each other and frustrate each other is somewhat high, but generally both feel that they are headed somewhere with each other, and personal energy cycles are boosted as the result of interaction. Sexual attraction is very high. Both feel the other person is their "type", and each tends to get a real ego boost and energy buzz from their partner. Arguments tend to be highly personal and subjective.
His Jupiter squares Her Sun: Both feel they are right and find it hard to understand why it is so difficult for the other to understand their basic philosophy of what a relationship should be like. His energies will seem to blow minor issues out of proportion. This is a learning experience. They were brought together because each has something the other needs and there is something in the other’s views that contains energies each can adopt.
His Jupiter squares Her Neptune: He is likely to believe that together as partners they can do anything; just being together amplifies imagination, hope, and idealism far beyond any realistic expectation of odds. He tends to trust in luck to make the most extravagant wishes into reality. She is more aware that carelessness, irresponsibility and excess can spiral their relationship and lives out of control.
His Saturn squares Her Sun: Both desire to achieve their goals but find themselves challenged by the demands of the other. He may make her feel such a sense of heaviness, seriousness, or obligation that she is not comfortable in his company, but it is highly unlikely that she will be willing to leave with any unfinished issues between them.
His Saturn squares Her Neptune: He cannot seem to find substance or a feeling of security in their relationship when he considers (in his view) a lack of practicality and common sense; demanding that she settle down and takes responsibility is not productive. She may feel loss of self esteem and creativity when her demands that she face reality and adopt his way of doing things. She may feel he just doesn’t understand her creative process.
His Uranus trines Her Jupiter: This relationship is based upon openness, freedom, a desire for innovation and change, and is an active intellectual and philosophical experiment created out of an idealistic spirit. As a couple they are likely to be a “one of a kind,” spontaneously outrageous example of everything conventional minds and traditionalists are afraid of.
His Neptune trines Her Venus: They have a natural attunement with each other's feelings and ideas, creating a loving atmosphere, receptive to each other’s moods, music, aesthetics, taste, interests. He, in particular, reaches toward higher potentials of love and partnership through this romantic experience. She is deemed the inspiration for his creativity, releasing him from the bounds of the mundane.
His Neptune squares Her Jupiter: He likely believes they can do anything together; idealism far beyond any realistic expectation of odds. They tend to trust in luck to make the most extravagant wishes into reality.
His Pluto sextiles Her Venus: He feels incredibly close to her, sexually moved, profoundly attracted, willing to unburden a lifetime worth of secrets in order to stand naked in her gaze (figuratively speaking), and willing to turn his back upon the world if it will win her love and attention.
His Pluto squares Her Mars: They struggle over power, over dominance, over sex, over possessiveness, but they can also use these energies to focus on cooperating and directing them toward a shared objective. Forces outside will challenge this relationship often. The intensity of fury generated is second only to the passions both carry and the power they can raise to overcome obstacles. He will be challenged by a desire to penetrate to the essence and uncover hidden truth, no matter where that may take both of them.
His Pluto quincunx Her Jupiter: They likely test the bonds of truth, inner faith and personal convictions and should be very careful of overstepping individual authority or stepping out of legal bounds. This aspect can have expansive consequences, and comes equipped with a karmic “kick me” sign which pretty much wipes out her chances of getting away with anything she might feel guilty about. He may potentially force her to adjust her beliefs or moral values.
His North Node conjuncts Her Mercury: Communication between the two is likely to be excellent. He is highly receptive to her ideas, and admires her intellect. She opens up his mind to different ways of thinking. Indeed, it is her role in this relationship to guide him to their future, in regards to ideas and communication. On the downside, she also communicates in a way that may make him feel slightly uneasy or uncomfortable. As such, he may feel exhausted at the amount of mental activity that goes on between the couple.
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Chris Siegfried (December 12, 1985, somewhere in Washington)
(Sun 20-Sagittarius, Moon in late Sagittarius or early Capricorn, Mercury 0-Sagittarius, Venus 11-Sagittarius, Mars 28-Libra, Jupiter 14-Aquarius, Saturn 3-Sagittarius, Uranus 18-Sagittarius, Neptune 2-Capricorn, Pluto 6-Scorprio, N. Node 8-Taurus)
I am guessing his Moon sign is in late Sagittarius, but it could be in early Capricorn… which could cause a bit of trouble here. Then again, it might not since “opposites attract”. However, they seem to share a bunch of Sagittarius signs here. Intriguingly, both he and Kasey have late Libra planets close to her South Node and this hints that both remind her of people in her past… in Chris’ case, some of the feistier ones since he has Mars there.
It appears that Chris was cast by production to play some sort of “therapy” role for her, regardless if she chooses him in the end or not, getting her over some obstacle she has in relationships. That is, if he gets a 1 on 1 date with her.
SUN in CANCER with SAGITTARIUS
The natures are so different that these are bound to clash at times. Very often when he feels the urge to travel, explore, expand, and follow a new star, she feels just the opposite the urge to be close to family, to establish roots, to have children and provide for them, to be near close friends. His desire for freedom and exploration is often at cross purposes with her need for security. He tends to also be philosophical and detached about personal matters while she takes a much more personal, subjective, compassionate, and emotional approach to life. Although in theory these differences can complement each other, and sometimes they do, there are times when they have to be very creative and imaginative to find ways to meet everyone's needs.
Moon Taurus/Moon Sagittarius
Steady practicality meets changeable passion. Taurus and Sagittarius have very different, and often conflicting, emotional needs and yearnings. She wants stability in a harmonious relationship filled with material goodies to sensually experience; he wants freedom and adventure, travel to new places, mental stimulation. She likes a familiar, natural setting; He likes nature but also desires to be where the action is. She lives in the present and steadfastly builds future; he visits the now but lives for the future. Both can be generous and a bit laid back tending to let each other have what they need. She can be indulgent of a partner, while he can gloss over present time problems concentrating on tomorrow. Taurus is ruled by Venus; Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter. A Moon in Taurus - Moon in Sagittarius sign comparison is rather like the energies of a Venus quincunx Jupiter aspect in this relationship. There will be challenges to this relationship between them over financial issues; what he views as the good life, she sees as excessive spending and risk taking. She will indulge him up to a point, but then stubbornly attempt to impose ideas about financial stability.
Major “aspects”:
His Sun trines Her Venus: He’s very content and wealth and material possessions could attract easily. This is a very true love but it may lack real passion unless they have other factors which are uniting them.
His Sun squares Her Jupiter: Both partners will feel right and find it hard to understand why it is so difficult for the other partner to understand their basic philosophy of what a relationship should be like. His energies will seem to blow minor issues out of proportion.
His Sun conjuncts Her Uranus: He’s attracted to her unconventional side and willing to support her desires to take risks.
His Mercury trines Her Mercury: Mutual understanding and intellectual harmony exists between them. Communication is easy and pleasurable.
His Mercury conjunct Her Saturn: He’s able to solve problems, work on serious issues, and focus on practical concerns because of her influence, but may feel inhibited about sharing thoughts and ideas which would not meet with approval. She tends to talk about and discuss practical plans and avoid idle chatter with him. Positively, they do an excellent job together on mutual goals which require the gathering and organization of information.
His Venus quincunx Her Sun: They have very different ideas about how to create a romantic and domestic relationship. That’s what intrigues them and attracts them. There’s something about the way she looks and acts that he finds very attractive because it is fresh and novel and so different from his ideas. They inspire each other but will find themselves having to adjust and adjust or let all of the “little things” drive them to frustration.
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She may drain the energy of and act as a restrictive influence on him. He may feel she impedes upon his actions. Nevertheless, she is irresistibly attracted to him, and he readily gives her personal pleasure. He also supports her actions and strives to further their goals.
His Jupiter opposite Her Venus: They don’t share the same philosophy of life and this can tend to interfere with feelings of love and romance. His extravagance, eternal optimism, and free spirited approach toward life can create frustration in her when she considers her place in life along side him. His expansive feelings and good fellowship which she finds so attractive are at times matched (in her view) by an irresponsibility and self concerned preoccupation with personal independence that it can trouble her philosophy of love and the roles of partners in romantic relationships. They each have something important to learn from each other’s viewpoints, and will need to learn it if this love is going to continue to expand.
His Saturn conjuncts Her Saturn: They give each other structure, meaning, and purpose. Both know that the other is a very reliable, practical, hardworking partner that can organize activities to efficiently carry out long term plans for material security and advancement. Their dedication to mutual service and creating a traditionally supportive relationship is truly worthwhile. Step by step, they will build a future as they deepen the bonds between each other.
His Uranus trines Her Venus: This relationship may seem a bit odd or unusual to outsiders but they are attracted to openness, unconventionality, and freedom from limiting ideas. They have a willingness to experiment with life, love, and sexuality. They like breaking the rules and enjoy the differences between them as much as the similarities. Progressive ideas about love, romance, and domestic relationships make theirs a unique partnership which seeks to mirror their ideals of innovation and independence.
His Neptune quincunx Her Mercury: His imagination may play too much a part in his thinking and responds as much to wishful thinking as he does to what is going on between the two of them. She still admires his intuitive powers but often not his logical prowess.
His Pluto trines Her Sun: This brings potentials for great sexual passion and cooperative power. This romantic and domestic partnership flows on higher and lower harmonics simultaneously, raising consciousness as well as physical energies.
His Pluto square Her Mercury: Her interactions with him may raise repressed and unresolved relationship issues from subconscious to conscious levels. The impact of day to day frustrations is intensified because they are really dealing with what appears to be today’s issues, but what are in fact a compilation of every upset he has repressed or avoided in his past.
His South Node conjuncts Her Pluto: These two have a certain “karmic” connection. In other words, there’s a feeling they have known each other before… some would say in a past life, while others who don’t believe in that stuff would say earlier in this life but somehow forgotten over time. Certain unresolved feelings that either has been suppressing are brought up between the two.
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Kasey Stewart (July 17, 1983 in Oklahoma)
(Sun 24-Cancer, Moon in late Libra, maybe early Scorpio, Mercury 3-Leo, Venus 4-Virgo, Mars 12-Cancer, Jupiter 1-Sagittarius, Saturn 27-Libra, Uranus 5-Sagittarius, Neptune 27-Sagittarius, Pluto 26-Libra, N. Node 24-Gemini)
Several have said Kasey resembles Zac Afron in a way. That just might be because his Moon (maybe… don’t have an exact time for him), Saturn and Pluto are all in late Libra, two of these are definitely at 26-27 degrees, just two degrees off the star’s Sun sign. Kasey’s Venus is 4 degrees Virgo, the star’s Moon is 4 degrees Virgo.
As with Chris above, there is some action going on with Desiree’s South Node here, making Kasey somebody she feels she knows already… in a way. Again, it is as if the people screening him must have seen something they thought might be good “therapy” for her. Whether this is just for the time of shooting or continuing post-show in a relationship, I can’t answer that. Don’t know and can’t determine anything at this stage.
In many other aspects, they seem pretty compatible provided she understands he may be more disciplined than she is. Granted, her Capricorn Mars craves sharing discipline with the man she loves. It appears that she relates to Kasey a little more on a mental and structured level, while Zack’s connection with her (listed below) is little more physical and unstructured. As we all know, the latter does not always guarantee a necessarily better hookup.
SUN in CANCER with CANCER
Both are very sensitive, sympathetic and emotional, with moods that shift and change like the tides. Though they may hide behind a shell of equanimity or indifference, they are really very easily hurt and take almost everything personally. Both have deep feelings for, and sentimental attachments to, the past, home and family, or anything or anyone once had a close affiliation with school, home town, friends, etc. If the backgrounds are very different, this may be more of a problem for these two than it would be to other people, because their identification with their origins is so strong. Both need to be needed, and desire a very close, secure, loving and protective relationship. Family or domesticity is extremely important. Because of their empathy for one another, and similar temperaments, they could blend quite well together.
Moon Taurus/Moon Libra
Steady practicality meets assertive thought. Both seek domestic harmony, deep personal relationships, to enjoy partnership, and avoid anger or unpleasantness. Both are artistic, appreciate the enjoyment of fine things. She enjoys tactile communication with nature, He enjoys a wider interest in literature, cosmopolitan culture, and intellectual stimulation. He has greater diplomacy; she a magnetic attractiveness. She can fall into a predictable routine in relationships, feeling totally committed; he desires romantic gestures in order to maintain romantic interest. Taurus is ruled by Venus; Libra is also ruled by Venus. Venus expressed materially and through thought. A Moon in Taurus - Moon in Libra sign comparison is rather like the energies of a Venus quincunx Venus aspect. The partners desire to experience the same things through different senses, but little things have them projecting their imperfections on each other so that they are seldom satisfied with the way things are until they learn to make subtle adjustments in their own behaviors.
Major “aspects”:
His Sun opposite Her Mars: This brings a touch of defensiveness and competitiveness into their chemistry. He may find her way of doing things somewhat annoying from time to time, and she may react with defensiveness. There is a bit of "I can do things better than you" or "This is the way things should really be done" in this relationship. There is physical attraction between the two, no doubt, but sometimes they may waste their time getting on each other's cases.
His Sun trines Her Jupiter: She always seems to give him the benefit of the doubt, and trusts his good heart at the end of the day. They can help each other by opening up new doors, new avenues of expression, and building up self-confidence. Even if there are more somber cross-aspects in the synastry of this relationship, this one offers truly fun moments that smooth over differences at the end of the day. Together, they can envision wonderful things, and together can also overdo pleasurable things, simply because of the confidence stimulated between them.
His Mercury conjuncts Her Mercury: The similarities in the manner in which they speak and think are striking. Both minds seem to be wired to approach problems and to handle mental tasks in similar ways. This fact can help them to understand each other, or, of course, it can get on their nerves from time to time. Much will depend on how comfortable they are with their own mental temperaments.
His Mercury trines Her Saturn: She helps him to structure his thoughts, plan his life, and give form to his ideas. She listens well, guides, and disciplines him in mostly pleasing ways. They tend to solve relationship problems through careful, step-by-step, and logical communication. Conversations may be on the dry or serious side at times, however.
His Mercury quincunx Her Neptune: He may complain that she is too vague and indefinite in her communications with him.
His Mercury squares Her Pluto: His interactions with her are raising repressed and unresolved relationship issues from subconscious to conscious levels. The impact of day to day frustrations is intensified because they are really dealing with what appears to be today’s issues, but what are in fact a compilation of every upset she has repressed or avoided in her past.
His Venus sextiles Her Sun: They share a desire for cooperation and harmony in their romantic relationship. They graciously accept each other’s support of ideas in domestic matters.
His Venus squares Her Saturn: They face something that restricts their time together. There’s something about each other’s viewpoints regarding romantic love and family that each can’t quite bring themselves to trust. She may have problems with intimacy. Even if she is normally very generous, something is cautioning her to slow down and find out what it is she really needs.
His Venus trines Her Neptune: He reaches toward higher potentials of love and partnership through this romantic experience. She is deemed the inspiration for his creativity.
His Venus sextiles Her Pluto: He feels incredibly close to her, sexually moved, profoundly attracted, willing to unburden a lifetime worth of secrets in order to stand naked in her gaze (figuratively speaking), and willing to turn his back upon the world.
His Mars conjuncts Her Sun: There is a real physical connection between the two that generally presents itself as sexual attraction and physical chemistry. There is a true feeling of progressiveness and energy. The potential to both challenge each other and frustrate each other is somewhat high, but generally both feel that they are headed somewhere with each other, and personal energy cycles are boosted as the result of interaction. Sexual attraction is very high. Both feel the other person is their "type", and each tends to get a real ego boost and energy buzz from their partner. Arguments tend to be highly personal and subjective.
His Jupiter trines Her Mercury: He is especially enthusiastic about her thoughts and ideas, stimulating her to learn more, and to expand her opinions. Conversations can be lively, positive, and inspiring.
His Jupiter conjuncts Her Saturn: This romantic relationship will grow over time. Patience and steady dedication to mutual goals will be rewarded substantially. Material abundance and accomplishment are the result of balancing practicality with optimism.
His Saturn conjuncts Her South Node: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] : South Node energies are very similar to Saturn energies, so this relationship is likely to be very “heavy” and serious. At the same time, this bond is said to be “unbreakable”. The feeling of commitment to each other is strong, and it can be difficult to separate from one another. On the other hand, this aspect is also regarded as a “separative aspect,” as in, the relationship between the two may never fully get off the ground. Saturn represents restriction, so this aspect indicates there may be significant barriers between the two, which impedes on their ability to form a real relationship. (His Pluto also conjuncts Her South Node)
His Uranus trines Her Mercury: Intellectual relationship is lively. Conversations about unconventional approaches to living or inventive technology give both inspiration and increased mental vigor.
His Uranus conjuncts Her Saturn: They are at the crossroads. She intended to go straight down the road she's been traveling, a road built on permanence, security, discipline, and maintaining solid boundaries, but now he suddenly confronts her with the necessity of making choices. He will need to show her new ways of doing things. When faced with the new she will seek to cling to the past, the old ways, the sure path but his influence will certainly tempt her to reevaluate the possibilities. One way or another, this won't be an easy ride.
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Zack Kalter (September 19, 1984: Anaheim, California… too close to Disneyland)
(Sun 26-27-Virgo, Moon in Cancer, Mercury 10-Virgo, Venus 22-Libra, Mars 19-Sagittarius, Jupiter 3-Capricorn, Saturn 13-Scorpio, Uranus 9-Sagittarius, Neptune 28-Sagittarius, Pluto 0-Scorpio, N. Node 29-Taurus)
It will be most entertaining to watch these two on screen. No clue if he has been dumped yet or not. If he makes it to Fantasy Suite time, they will become twice as entertaining to watch on screen. Oh I am sure Desiree will act all prudish in interviews and insist nothing happens to be ashamed of, provided there is no strawberry consumption involved.
Desiree is a Water/Earth combo and Zack is Earth/Water and both have Cancer as their water sign here.
SUN in CANCER with VIRGO
Both are inclined to mood changes that, at times, can irritate each other. For example, she experiences periods of melancholy, tenderness, concern, worry, nostalgia and sentimentality, which he may not understand or sympathize with. He can suddenly become irritated and irascible over minor annoyances, and at such times, is capable of intense sarcasm and criticism, which can be extremely disconcerting to her tender, sensitive feelings. He must be prudent, and she must strive to be forgiving when things go a little awry. However, both are capable of enormous devotion to one another and to their children if they have them, and taking care of one another comes naturally to them.
Moon Taurus/Moon Cancer
Steady practicality meets assertive feeling. Both have similar domestic agendas, they like to share food, nurture children, have a tranquil and harmonious home environment, have deep family attachments, feel comfortable in familiar surroundings, and approach change cautiously. She is emotionally steady; he tends to be moody. Both are acquisitive, patient and intuitive. Venus is the ruler of Taurus, the Moon rules Cancer. A Moon in Taurus - Moon in Cancer sign comparison acts rather like a Venus sextile Moon aspect in this relationship. Her desire to share sensual pleasures and steady romantic attraction creates a feeling of emotional security for him opening the door to opportunities to express its sensitivity, nurturance, and intuition in a harmonious domestic environment.
Major “aspects”:
His Sun trine Her Mars: It is easy for them to master challenges, relate sexually, feel free with self expression, and cooperate toward mutual goals. She finds him very responsive to her desires, encouraging her to go after what she wants and dare to be her best. He admires her spunk, drive, and courage. They often turn to each other to pull themselves out of ruts or periods of despondency.
His Sun opposite Her Jupiter: Excess is associated with Jupiter and if it exists, it does stem from good intentions. If either over-indulges the other, it is because both have a deep need to make one another happy. She has the power to lift his spirits up, which is a powerful, natural, and positive "drug". At times, they expect a little too much of each other and of the partnership. They may overspend and overdo, and the focus may be on pampering each other and perhaps overlooking some of the nitty-gritty details of existence.
His Sun square Her Uranus: There is nothing predictable--or stable--about their interactions. This relationship likely began in a sudden or surprising manner, but it might also end just as suddenly. They came together to explore new and perhaps unconventional ways of relating--not for a predictable, stable, and traditional partnership. She is a bringer of change into his life, and challenges him to accept her desire for individuality. He may find her extremely attractive and exciting, but might eventually grow tired of the seemingly constant upsets, rebellious moments, and impersonal attitude. In some cases, the circumstances surrounding the partnership are such that they are separated at key moments (long-distance and other non-traditional relationships), which can undermine the relationship over time.
His Moon conjunct (about) her Sun: Traditionally, this is considered a very helpful aspect in a romantic relationship and certainly in a marriage, where each understanding and affinity for the other will be naturally very high. She, in particular, has an easy time relating to his feelings and emotional needs.
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The conjunction of the Sun and the Moon in synastry is a powerful connection. How it plays out will have much to do with the condition of these luminaries in the individual charts. Attraction to one another is usually there regardless, perhaps felt most by the Moon person initially. As a relationship develops between the two, a dynamic inevitably emerges in which the Moon person plays a supportive role (sometimes a dependent or submissive role) to the Sun person, who tends to lead the relationship in some manner.
A note should be made about gender and whose Moon and whose Sun is involved. Although both ways is powerful, in some cases when the man's Moon conjuncts the woman's Sun, problems arise. This happens when the man feels uncomfortable in his role as the moody, sympathetic, and somewhat dependent Moon -- a role that he might assign to women. In this day and age, however, either male or female playing the role of the Moon to the Sun may feel some kind of resentment over time. Just as the Moon reflects the Sun's light, the Moon person is naturally inclined to play a supportive and sometimes submissive role to the Sun. It doesn't need to be submissive--instead, it can be considered supportive. How comfortable the Moon person is with this role is critical. In the same vein, the Sun person's comfort levels with playing the role of the Sun should be considered as well. Not everyone wants to be the leader in a relationship!
His Moon trines Her Jupiter: There is a natural joy, generosity and good fortune that comes with this aspect. They tend to give freely of their feelings and are able to express gratitude openly and willingly. There are times when they are excessive or too effusive, but most of the time people love your infectious and vibrant energy.
His Mercury trine Her Moon: He feels she understands him, enjoys their conversations and is she’s attracted to his ideas. Good communication is the basis for lasting relationships and domestic harmony. She finds it easy to converse with him.
His Mercury square Her Saturn: There may still be strong elements of teaching and learning in this relationship, as well as deep respect for each other's intelligence. However, over time, there can be a subtle competitiveness between them on a mental level that can actually be quite destructive if not attended to. He can feel intimidated by her practicality. She can be silent often.
His Mercury trine Her Neptune: Their thoughts blend well, even telepathically. She also increases his interest in music, poetry, art, and a pursuit of inner spiritual development.
His Venus square Her Mars: This is likely to be a fiery relationship. The romantic attraction between them is very strong, but feelings may not be in tune with each other. One (typically her but sometimes him) may feel sexually aroused by the other and consequently be too aggressive in approach. The conflict here is all in the timing. He may sometimes find she comes on too strong, and is often offended or taken aback by her directness. Jealousy and possessiveness are also likely. Feelings can swing back and forth and these two may not realize how much they love each other until they are away from each other.
His Venus sextile her Uranus: Life is naturally exciting when they are together. They share some perhaps unusual interests, and are usually accepting of one another's social life, tastes, and hobbies. There may be something pleasingly unconventional about this set-up. Love doesn't easily become routine for the two of them. With her, he feels more open to experimentation, especially when expressing himself sexually.
His Mars trine Her Venus: They are quite sexually attracted and uninhibited, well matched in creativity, passion, and find it easy to express themselves. It is unlikely that the feeling of being "in love" will ever fade completely, and it is likely both see each other as someone very special and dear throughout their lives. She is enthralled with his "body ego", and he is equally turned on by her.
His Mars square Her Jupiter: Both generate a lot of positive energy, enterprising ideas, and a belief that they can do anything they really want to; but approach love, sex, and romantic relationships in different ways. Competition invigorates and challenges them both. They are apt to feel restless, discontented, and dissatisfied unless they can harness this competitive energy. Expect arguments over who has the better approach when ideally they should be taking a third approach and join forces.
His Mars conjunct Her Uranus: He often desires to try something really new, something different, perhaps shockingly unconventional, and always has the right partner to do it with. Explosive temperament, uninhibited or somewhat experimental adventures in sexuality, and desire for a steady diet of change will insure that neither one of them gets bored. She had better love surprises, since he loves to break rules, take risks and is always in the mood to shake things up. Wild things.
His Jupiter trine Her Moon: Over time, he becomes increasingly sensitive of her feelings and is happier, luckier, more daring and optimistic when she is around. They have compatible outlooks, an interest in expanding their horizons, and in trying new adventurous experiences.
His Jupiter conjunct Her Neptune: Personal and mutual expansion and growth are very much a part of this relationship. They are more likely to take risks based more upon an abundance of confidence in beliefs than upon practical considerations. His presence seems to brighten her spirit, expanding an awareness of infinite potentials and possibilities. They look at the world as it could be and as they would like it to be. This sense of idealism can potentially blow compassion out of all proportion to their present means.
His Saturn trine Her Sun: This creates an easy flow for each other’s realization of goals which will enhance mutual security and material status. There’s an emphasis outward on achievement and can lead to wealth and prosperity.
His Saturn opposite Her Moon: Sometimes she may feel restricted by his serious outlook and approach to life and their relationship. She feels his attitudes can be limiting or inhibiting her. Either way they are both right, but find themselves connected to this partnership by their mutual need for security. Different points of view are the reasons they were attracted to each other in the first place. Each needs a bit of what the other one has and takes as the only natural approach to things.
His Saturn square Her Venus: Although this relationship may begin with a strong feeling of comfort and compatibility, over time, some very challenging dynamics are likely to surface. He, fearing her withdrawal of affection, loyalty, or respect, can easily become critical or demanding of her. In response to his critical demeanor, she may withhold affection. A vicious circle can quickly occur. She could begin to view him as unsympathetic, and he could come to view her as childish and undisciplined. Care should be taken to avoid getting into this negative cycle. It will be important for them to maintain an adequate social life, as the tendency with this interchart aspect is to appease one another's jealous nature by cutting oneself off from hobbies, social activities, and pleasures outside of the relationship. They may be critical of one another's tastes and hobbies, but at the root of this is some form of jealousy over the attention that each give to outside interests. Commitment and loyalty to one another will be vital, but also the source of some friction.
His Saturn conjunct Her Pluto: There is an inner resiliency and strength which both will discover and a sense of self worth that can break the chains of self invalidating negativity and to begin life anew in a direction of each own choosing. All this comes with a price. Emotional difficulty and material scarcity can stress this partnership but add to the closeness they share. This partnership is teaching her about drawing boundaries and creating lasting values.
His Pluto square Her Mercury: Her interactions with him may raise repressed and unresolved relationship issues from subconscious to conscious levels. The impact of day to day frustrations is intensified because they are really dealing with what appears to be today’s issues, but what are in fact a compilation of every upset he has repressed or avoided in his past.
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Re: Fun Thread - Discussion - Spoilers
by atem Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:24 pm
Thank you JBF. I have to admit, I too am looking forward to seeing her interact with Zack! 
Anything I post means it's Just My Opinion. Don't feel like posting it every time I post. So, I thought I'd get that out of the way.
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by DesFever Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:43 pm
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Me too! I know the astrology thing is for fun, but I couldn't help get my interest peaked while reading what you wrote JBF. :Smiley:
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Re: Fun Thread - Discussion - Spoilers
by JBF Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:18 pm
No clue about the outcome, but we do have this tweet from March 22
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Dez' journey toward love is going great! I gotta good feeling about this season...
@Fleissmeister
Dez' journey toward love is going great! I gotta good feeling about this season...
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by atem Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:32 pm
JBF wrote:No clue about the outcome, but we do have this tweet from March 22
@Fleissmeister
Dez' journey toward love is going great! I gotta good feeling about this season...
Why would 'feeling' indicate anything?
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by Guest Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:59 pm
JBF, to give us an idea, would you be able to do the same for successful bach couples (JASH, Molly/Jason, Blake/Holly, Trista/Ryan...)?
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Re: Fun Thread - Discussion - Spoilers
by JBF Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:12 pm
Ha ha! I need more time to do all of that. Might get too busy. Then again, we still have time before each of those guys get booted off... or not. I did Ash/JP vs. Ash/Ben that season and it is floating around somewhere here in Archive Vault-Land.
Oh atem, Fleiss says peculiar stuff every season that makes us poke and prod for answers. There is something about his wording there that I found interesting. Have to double check the timing of that tweet, if it has any significance.
Oh atem, Fleiss says peculiar stuff every season that makes us poke and prod for answers. There is something about his wording there that I found interesting. Have to double check the timing of that tweet, if it has any significance.
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