Re: The Bachelor: Women Tell All - 3/04 - Discussion Thread

by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:06 am

Mr Write wrote:Shouldn't Des and Lesley M be sitting in each others seat (ie. swap positions)? Makes me wonder.

Can you explain? Something to do with usual positions?

by Mr Write Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:38 am

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought F4 usually sat next to F3.

by umngirl Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:42 am

^On Ben's and Brad's seasons they didn't have them in exact order either. Ashley H. (next lead) was in the middle of the front row much like Des is in the middle of the front row here.

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by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:44 am

Lucas15 wrote:
biglove44 wrote:I thought the contestants the lead had the strongest feelings for got 2nd dates.

That's possibly been true but I think it may depend on how The Bachelor wants to run his show. Some bachelors might request (and be given) multiple 1-1 dates because they like a particular woman and another might request multiple dates because they have questions and want more time with certain women to get them answered.

It's a bit unusual that this season Sean had only one 1-1 date with both of his final two women which suggests that he might have had the most confidence in / least doubts about those two for some time and used second 1-1 dates to make sure he didn't make a mistake in letting someone else go earlier.

I completely get what you're saying and I thought that was the case but it just doesn't make sense. Time is valuable during this process, why would you want to keep spending time with people you're unsure about? If the dates can last up to 12 hours, wouldn't you want to spend as much time as possible with the ones you like/are falling for VS the ones you're unsure about?

It almost felt like he liked ALL the women and eliminated them based on when he didn't like them anymore. So by process of elimination, obviously there would only be two people left. But it wasn't like he pursued them (they weren't "the ones"), but rather, they were just the last two left. Does this make sense?

Maybe I should have just kept watching from a distance. I started looking up Sean interview clips and it made me a little sad about how open he was about falling in love with multiple women, up until, basically the end of the show. If you were Catherine, how would you feel about that?! Maybe the bachelors are just terrible decision makers when it comes to love; they push it to the very end. The bachelorettes on the other hand, at least from my memory, knew who their "final one" was before the meet the parents/final date.

What happened to all the old members? I only recognize albeen, Alanna, Love_me and Sanlee.

by Love_Me Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:27 am

biglove44 wrote:
Lucas15 wrote:
biglove44 wrote:I thought the contestants the lead had the strongest feelings for got 2nd dates.

That's possibly been true but I think it may depend on how The Bachelor wants to run his show. Some bachelors might request (and be given) multiple 1-1 dates because they like a particular woman and another might request multiple dates because they have questions and want more time with certain women to get them answered.

It's a bit unusual that this season Sean had only one 1-1 date with both of his final two women which suggests that he might have had the most confidence in / least doubts about those two for some time and used second 1-1 dates to make sure he didn't make a mistake in letting someone else go earlier.

I completely get what you're saying and I thought that was the case but it just doesn't make sense. Time is valuable during this process, why would you want to keep spending time with people you're unsure about? If the dates can last up to 12 hours, wouldn't you want to spend as much time as possible with the ones you like/are falling for VS the ones you're unsure about?

It almost felt like he liked ALL the women and eliminated them based on when he didn't like them anymore. So by process of elimination, obviously there would only be two people left. But it wasn't like he pursued them (they weren't "the ones"), but rather, they were just the last two left. Does this make sense?

Maybe I should have just kept watching from a distance. I started looking up Sean interview clips and it made me a little sad about how open he was about falling in love with multiple women, up until, basically the end of the show. If you were Catherine, how would you feel about that?! Maybe the bachelors are just terrible decision makers when it comes to love; they push it to the very end. The bachelorettes on the other hand, at least from my memory, knew who their "final one" was before the meet the parents/final date.

What happened to all the old members? I only recognize albeen, Alanna, Love_me and Sanlee.

Please, continue to post and share your thoughts. A lot of the old members took a break from posting after last season. Some told me they plan to return to discuss Desiree's season though. :Smiley:

by Love_Me Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:48 am

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by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:06 am

Love_Me wrote:

Please, continue to post and share your thoughts. A lot of the old members took a break from posting after last season. Some told me they plan to return to discuss Desiree's season though. :Smiley:

Love_Me!!! Desiree's the next bachelorette??? Whoa.

by Catdwoman50 Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:07 am

biglove44 wrote:
Lucas15 wrote:
biglove44 wrote:I thought the contestants the lead had the strongest feelings for got 2nd dates.

That's possibly been true but I think it may depend on how The Bachelor wants to run his show. Some bachelors might request (and be given) multiple 1-1 dates because they like a particular woman and another might request multiple dates because they have questions and want more time with certain women to get them answered.

It's a bit unusual that this season Sean had only one 1-1 date with both of his final two women which suggests that he might have had the most confidence in / least doubts about those two for some time and used second 1-1 dates to make sure he didn't make a mistake in letting someone else go earlier.

I completely get what you're saying and I thought that was the case but it just doesn't make sense. Time is valuable during this process, why would you want to keep spending time with people you're unsure about? If the dates can last up to 12 hours, wouldn't you want to spend as much time as possible with the ones you like/are falling for VS the ones you're unsure about?

It almost felt like he liked ALL the women and eliminated them based on when he didn't like them anymore. So by process of elimination, obviously there would only be two people left. But it wasn't like he pursued them (they weren't "the ones"), but rather, they were just the last two left. Does this make sense?

Maybe I should have just kept watching from a distance. I started looking up Sean interview clips and it made me a little sad about how open he was about falling in love with multiple women, up until, basically the end of the show. If you were Catherine, how would you feel about that?! Maybe the bachelors are just terrible decision makers when it comes to love; they push it to the very end. The bachelorettes on the other hand, at least from my memory, knew who their "final one" was before the meet the parents/final date.

What happened to all the old members? I only recognize albeen, Alanna, Love_me and Sanlee.

I get you. It seems like he really wasn't sure and we shouldn't put too much stock on this engagement. Sean needed to have stopped his elimination process when he fell in love. Falling in love with two women doesn't resonate well with me. Im sure as it is with others. Either I believe his sincerity all the way or that he was acting to finish the show. Idk I am so confused, I seem to go through these cycles this season. Excuse me while I go to the bathroom now and cry. hissyfit

by shoepie Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:27 am

biglove44 wrote:
Love_Me wrote:

Please, continue to post and share your thoughts. A lot of the old members took a break from posting after last season. Some told me they plan to return to discuss Desiree's season though. :Smiley:

Love_Me!!! Desiree's the next bachelorette??? Whoa.

Is this true Love, or is it you just hoping? I would love that!

by luvstx Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:38 am

shoepie wrote:
biglove44 wrote:
Love_Me wrote:

Please, continue to post and share your thoughts. A lot of the old members took a break from posting after last season. Some told me they plan to return to discuss Desiree's season though. :Smiley:

Love_Me!!! Desiree's the next bachelorette??? Whoa.

Is this true Love, or is it you just hoping? I would love that!

Check out Desiree's thread. Eonline said yesterday that TPTB are "close" to choosing Des over AshLee, Sarah and Lesley M. But I don't think it's official yet.

by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:49 am

Catdwoman50 wrote:

I get you. It seems like he really wasn't sure and we shouldn't put too much stock on this engagement. Sean needed to have stopped his elimination process when he fell in love. Falling in love with two women doesn't resonate well with me. Im sure as it is with others. Either I believe his sincerity all the way or that he was acting to finish the show. Idk I am so confused, I seem to go through these cycles this season. Excuse me while I go to the bathroom now and cry.

No! I hope my jaded comments don't make you feel bad. I used to be invested in this show but stopped giving a rat's a.ss after Ali/Roberto's season...until yesterday, when I started watching youtube interviews of Sean, ha!

I'm going to be snarky, so don't read the rest of this if you really like Sean. Personally, I don't think Cat/Sean have a chance in hell even though I love them together. Their lives are too different. She's cool, progressive (yes, you can be religious, conservative in how you live your life, and have progressive or liberal views of the world. Gasp!), smart, and cultured. I can't picture her living that Dallas lifestyle, hanging out with his "crew" and wannabe famous, nut hugging sister Shay. He's intrigued by her bc he's never dated anyone like her (he said this) but that's not long lasting. He was on the verge of sending her home over Des after HTD's, c'mon now. Really?! How can you feel confident in that? I hope he loves her a lot, like more than she loves him because that's the only way it's going to work.

by shoepie Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:59 am

biglove44 wrote:
Catdwoman50 wrote:

I get you. It seems like he really wasn't sure and we shouldn't put too much stock on this engagement. Sean needed to have stopped his elimination process when he fell in love. Falling in love with two women doesn't resonate well with me. Im sure as it is with others. Either I believe his sincerity all the way or that he was acting to finish the show. Idk I am so confused, I seem to go through these cycles this season. Excuse me while I go to the bathroom now and cry.

No! I hope my jaded comments don't make you feel bad. I used to be invested in this show but stopped giving a rat's a.ss after Ali/Roberto's season...until yesterday, when I started watching youtube interviews of Sean, ha!

I'm going to be snarky, so don't read the rest of this if you really like Sean. Personally, I don't think Cat/Sean have a chance in hell even though I love them together. They're lives are too different. She's cool, progressive (yes, you can be religious, conservative in how you live your life, and have progressive or liberal views of the world. Gasp!), smart, and cultured. I can't picture her living that Dallas lifestyle, hanging out with his "crew" and wannabe famous, nut hugging sister Shay. He's intrigued by her bc he's never dated anyone like her (he said this) but that's not long lasting. He was on the verge of sending her home over Des after HTD's, c'mon now. Really?! How can you feel confident in that? I hope he loves her a lot, like more than she loves him because that's the only way it's going to work.

ITA. Nut hugging Shay! Hysterical. I know nothing about her can you say more?

Catherine is hip and current, Sean is neither. Catherine's family had doubts about her wanting to settle down and I believe they were right on the money. I see her with a more counter culture guy when she is ready. The difference between Seattle and Dallas is extreme. I still have no clue what Sean is all about.

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