Episode 9 (FD's) - 2/25 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

When he was looking at the video messages of Lindsay and Catherine he seems relax but when it comes to Ashlee he closed his eyes and and seems emotional. Or maybe he just can't look at the video of Ashlee because he knew she will be crying again? Or he was still trying to convince himself and dig from his heart his feelings towards Ashlee? It's really hard to read him based on his facial expression.

hersheys9000 wrote:When he was looking at the video messages of Lindsay and Catherine he seems relax but when it comes to Ashlee he closed his eyes and and seems emotional. Or maybe he just can't look at the video of Ashlee because he knew she will be crying again? Or he was still trying to convince himself and dig from his heart his feelings towards Ashlee? It's really hard to read him based on his facial expression.

They're edited. The best reads are when they show the lead watching the TV in the same frame. Otherwise, it's anyone's guess who he's reacting to in the close ups.

None of them, to me, look in love. Ash looks emotional, but who knows what really triggered it.

ThankMeLater wrote:I'm still waiting for a love story. Didn't Shay say we would get one?

Hi - can someone please direct me to the article?/video? where Shay said this? I think I must've missed it. TIA!

lori8481 wrote:

ThankMeLater wrote:I'm still waiting for a love story. Didn't Shay say we would get one?

Hi - can someone please direct me to the article?/video? where Shay said this? I think I must've missed it. TIA!

I believe it was on her blog the week before the home dates. If you go searching in the blog section, it will lead you her website.

Folks were talking about it after her Kidd Kraddick interview, I think, Lori.

Still, no matter what Shay said at the time (and she has some inside info, obviously, about Sean's "journey"), she doesn't know, nor does she have control over, what WE will see. So even if she said it, doesn't mean the producers will show it to us! So if we don't see it, don't blame her.... we know where to place the blame.....

Sprite wrote:

lori8481 wrote:

ThankMeLater wrote:I'm still waiting for a love story. Didn't Shay say we would get one?

Hi - can someone please direct me to the article?/video? where Shay said this? I think I must've missed it. TIA!

I believe it was on her blog the week before the home dates. If you go searching in the blog section, it will lead you her website.

jcrbil wrote:Folks were talking about it after her Kidd Kraddick interview, I think, Lori.

Still, no matter what Shay said at the time (and she has some inside info, obviously, about Sean's "journey"), she doesn't know, nor does she have control over, what WE will see. So even if she said it, doesn't mean the producers will show it to us! So if we don't see it, don't blame her.... we know where to place the blame.....

I don't remember reading it in any of her blogs. And while I listened to the entire Kidd Kraddick interview live, I haven't re-listened to it since the day she was on, so I definitely could have missed it. I'm not trying to start anything, it just doesn't sound like something she would say, so it peaked my curiousity, that's all.

lori8481 wrote:

Sprite wrote:

lori8481 wrote:

ThankMeLater wrote:I'm still waiting for a love story. Didn't Shay say we would get one?

Hi - can someone please direct me to the article?/video? where Shay said this? I think I must've missed it. TIA!

I believe it was on her blog the week before the home dates. If you go searching in the blog section, it will lead you her website.

jcrbil wrote:Folks were talking about it after her Kidd Kraddick interview, I think, Lori.

Still, no matter what Shay said at the time (and she has some inside info, obviously, about Sean's "journey"), she doesn't know, nor does she have control over, what WE will see. So even if she said it, doesn't mean the producers will show it to us! So if we don't see it, don't blame her.... we know where to place the blame.....

I don't remember reading it in any of her blogs. And while I listened to the entire Kidd Kraddick interview live, I haven't re-listened to it since the day she was on, so I definitely could have missed it. I'm not trying to start anything, it just doesn't sound like something she would say, so it peaked my curiousity, that's all.

She definately said it. It may have been when answering to some of the comments that respond to her blog. I specifically remember because it struck me as a hint to watch HTD more closely.

2observe wrote:

ThankMeLater wrote:I'm still waiting for a love story. Didn't Shay say we would get one?

I'm still waiting for the love story also, and it's pretty late in the game to start a lovestory at FD. Especially if they expect the viewers to accept that an engagement at the FRC is real. jmo.

I'm on this train with you guys. Like Catherine. Heck, I like all F3. But I think the reason we aren't seeing a love story is that there really hasn't been one just yet. So I'm having a hard time with "their engaged".

I don't wish them ill. Do hope they are happy. But this isn't a hidden F1. This is an F1 who has still yet to get to the front of the pack.

I think what Shay said means that, regardless of what we see on screen, she knows her brother fell in love, and she knows the "love story" started around HTD (or whenever she said). For what it's worth, I do see a love story, even if it's not getting much attention from the editing monkeys. They developed a friendship over the first few episodes. She wasn't initially one of the top women he was attracted to, but he was drawn to her personality as he got to know her. Between episodes four and six, they kicked up the romance, and as Sean said in an ITM, that clicked into place. Judging by the previews, tonight is when we'll start seeing the heat and passion--maybe we would have seen that sooner if her grandmother etc hadn't been on their second date. But they've been showing a lot of interest and affection for a while. So I can see where conceivably, by the end, all the pieces are there--friendship, romance, passion. This show is always a weird way to get to know someone, and always rushes the engagement, so who knows what happens going forward. But the fact that he based his pick on growing to love her personality instead of initial attraction the first night--well, that seems at least as valid to me, if that makes sense.

I also would not be surprised if we find out later that Sean did know he preferred Catherine earlier on and was just fulfilling his duties--perhaps a little too well--by feigning indifference in the ITMs and interviews he's been giving. That all sounds to me like it was just him going along with the storyboard. I believe he cared about AshLee and that he enjoyed Lindsay, but there's no way he could have fallen for three women equally and did not have a preference by HTD, if not before, in my opinion.

elyn wrote:I think what Shay said means that, regardless of what we see on screen, she knows her brother fell in love, and she knows the "love story" started around HTD (or whenever she said). For what it's worth, I do see a love story, even if it's not getting much attention from the editing monkeys. They developed a friendship over the first few episodes. She wasn't initially one of the top women he was attracted to, but he was drawn to her personality as he got to know her. Between episodes four and six, they kicked up the romance, and as Sean said in an ITM, that clicked into place. Judging by the previews, tonight is when we'll start seeing the heat and passion--maybe we would have seen that sooner if her grandmother etc hadn't been on their second date. But they've been showing a lot of interest and affection for a while. So I can see where conceivably, by the end, all the pieces are there--friendship, romance, passion. This show is always a weird way to get to know someone, and always rushes the engagement, so who knows what happens going forward. But the fact that he based his pick on growing to love her personality instead of initial attraction the first night--well, that seems at least as valid to me, if that makes sense.

I also would not be surprised if we find out later that Sean did know he preferred Catherine earlier on and was just fulfilling his duties--perhaps a little too well--by feigning indifference in the ITMs and interviews he's been giving. That all sounds to me like it was just him going along with the storyboard. I believe he cared about AshLee and that he enjoyed Lindsay, but there's no way he could have fallen for three women equally and did not have a preference by HTD, if not before, in my opinion.

You make some good points, elyn! Plus, I can see him saying that all three were equal because he didn't want to close off any one girl at the point of HTDs- I mean, look how quickly things turned south with Des, a woman he probably thought was going to be at least F3 going into HTDs. As quickly as that changed, it would be reasonable for him to hold off a bit and really try to keep an open mind!

Well, there are a lot of great posts above! All I will say is that the FDs is always my favourite episode! no Families, no group dates, no roses, maybe o camera :) I am just ready to enjoy the ride!