Episode 5 - 2/04 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

umngirl wrote:Well whoever wrote that letter I'm jealous of their handwriting.

It's gotta be typed: the margins are perfect with no upward or downward line slant. I wonder if it is Catharine and her fonts! Whoop!

On re-watch, I am totally fascinated by Sean and Catherine's conversation during the night portion of the group date. She notes that she hasn't had a 1-on-1, but instead of being whiny about it, like most of the women usually are at this point, she glowingly tells him "I feel really good about us." And he agrees and says "You're somebody I don't have to worry about," because he knows she's confident and trusts what they have. It annoys me so much that TPTB have been hiding everything that's gotten them to that point of such mutual confidence in their relationship.

Tonight on Twitter, several people mentioned how many of Sean's GD roses this season have seemed to be "reassurance" roses for whomever expressed the most insecurity that week. By comparison, it must have been hugely relieving to him to have someone who (a) always projected confidence instead of insecurity, and (b) focused on making the most of their time together instead of constantly pressing him for more time.

sanlee088 wrote:Ya'll are right it is Catherine. :)

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See how easy and normal looking Sean's hand is on her leg? Watch how almost uncomfortable looking his hands are when he's touching some of the other women. It's like he knows he has to, but he isn't doing it wholeheartedly..

I wanna see the season preview again.

veg_out wrote:

umngirl wrote:Well whoever wrote that letter I'm jealous of their handwriting.

It's gotta be typed: the margins are perfect with no upward or downward line slant. I wonder if it is Catharine and her fonts! Whoop!

It looks typed to me too!!

I'm sure RS will let us know ASAP what the letter is about and who wrote it and gives it to Sean. Lol

He's got to figure it all out first...

RealitySteve @RealitySteve
If I knew who wrote Sean the letter at the final rose ceremony, I would've told you already. I don't know who wrote it or what it said.

Is it just me or does he sound a little frustrated?

Archer23 wrote:On re-watch, I am totally fascinated by Sean and Catherine's conversation during the night portion of the group date. She notes that she hasn't had a 1-on-1, but instead of being whiny about it, like most of the women usually are at this point, she glowingly tells him "I feel really good about us." And he agrees and says "You're somebody I don't have to worry about," because he knows she's confident and trusts what they have. It annoys me so much that TPTB have been hiding everything that's gotten them to that point of such mutual confidence in their relationship.

Tonight on Twitter, several people mentioned how many of Sean's GD roses this season have seemed to be "reassurance" roses for whomever expressed the most insecurity that week. By comparison, it must have been hugely relieving to him to have someone who (a) always projected confidence instead of insecurity, and (b) focused on making the most of their time together instead of constantly pressing him for more time.

I agree with the bold. Group date roses have been for reassurance and he and Cat are confident about their relationship. I think why he got upset/confused with Des is because he thought of her as confident and someone who didn't need reassurance and when she griped about the blue team coming to the date and not spending time with him, he was surprised that she was the type that needed reassurance. I think we're beginning to see the "unraveling" of his relationship with Des.

chicagoowl wrote:

Archer23 wrote:On re-watch, I am totally fascinated by Sean and Catherine's conversation during the night portion of the group date. She notes that she hasn't had a 1-on-1, but instead of being whiny about it, like most of the women usually are at this point, she glowingly tells him "I feel really good about us." And he agrees and says "You're somebody I don't have to worry about," because he knows she's confident and trusts what they have. It annoys me so much that TPTB have been hiding everything that's gotten them to that point of such mutual confidence in their relationship.

Tonight on Twitter, several people mentioned how many of Sean's GD roses this season have seemed to be "reassurance" roses for whomever expressed the most insecurity that week. By comparison, it must have been hugely relieving to him to have someone who (a) always projected confidence instead of insecurity, and (b) focused on making the most of their time together instead of constantly pressing him for more time.

I agree with the bold. Group date roses have been for reassurance and he and Cat are confident about their relationship. I think why he got upset/confused with Des is because he thought of her as confident and someone who didn't need reassurance and when she griped about the blue team coming to the date and not spending time with him, he was surprised that she was the type that needed reassurance. I think we're beginning to see the "unraveling" of his relationship with Des.

You know, she's quite refreshing. Here we all are, thinking that she has SUCH a late 1on1 that it doesn't sit right with us. We analyze from the outside, yet you bring up such a good point that she is already halfway into the process and she's confident in what they have with such the short about of time they have. She just makes everything count, despite the situation. I'm hoping that this helps her and Sean's relationship after the show is done.

I can see where Des becomes a bit insecure because she got such an early date and now sees that other girls have connections. It must be hard for her and I don't fault her at all for feeling the way she's feeling.

Does the Des-boyfriend thing ever actually happen?

Hey guys i have decided to join in the conversation.

I like the season so far and my faves are catherine, des, lesley and daniella

I feel for lindsay, because i felt that the producers sacrificed air time with her and sean to show the tierra drama.

Tierra is annoying, she is in no way entertaining.

Was it cat, lesley, robyn, and daniella that jumped on the bed together in montana? I love that foursome.

packersfan91 wrote:Hey guys i have decided to join in the conversation.

I like the season so far and my faves are catherine, des, lesley and daniella

I feel for lindsay, because i felt that the producers sacrificed air time with her and sean to show the tierra drama.

Tierra is annoying, she is in no way entertaining.

Was it cat, lesley, robyn, and daniella that jumped on the bed together in montana? I love that foursome.

Welcome! :WAVEY: Love your screenname!

packersfan91 wrote:Hey guys i have decided to join in the conversation.

I like the season so far and my faves are catherine, des, lesley and daniella

I feel for lindsay, because i felt that the producers sacrificed air time with her and sean to show the tierra drama.

Tierra is annoying, she is in no way entertaining.

Was it cat, lesley, robyn, and daniella that jumped on the bed together in montana? I love that foursome.

I think so. I know Catherine was the one with the green shirt and the four of them are the ones who seem to hang out together