Episode 3 - 1/21 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

ninu wrote:Sean REALLY likes her... wonder what happened!

Do we know about her faith background? Her family background and desire for a close family is what he wants, but he's repeatedly talked about how important shared faith is and she's not one I recall having read anything about that on. That might be a possible issue? We know with the F4 there are all confirmations that they share similar faith inclinations - maybe L didn't?

She's adorable and they are cute together! I think they seem very easy together and both get a little blushy (I know that's not a word really) together. I find her very likeable and think she'd be an interesting one as a possible lead (and hope she doesn't end up too heartbroken at the end of this - maybe she takes herself out for some reason?)...she or Desiree. I still hope RS is wrong with his spoiler regarding the likely Bachette.

I'm very interested to read Shay's blog about this episode and this date in particular (besides trying to explain this date to the kids! Ha) - maybe she'll inadvertently give some insight into what went wrong...of course I think she reads here so probably not!

ninu wrote:Sean REALLY likes her... wonder what happened!

Obviously its still early so its fair that she wouldn't end up being the one, but I'm curious what it is that leads him to choose the 4 he takes for HTDs and not Lesley, especially if he has a 1 on 1 date that week with her. He probably won't have 2 1on1 dates with all of the other 4 too.

kikora wrote:

ninu wrote:Sean REALLY likes her... wonder what happened!

Do we know about her faith background? Her family background and desire for a close family is what he wants, but he's repeatedly talked about how important shared faith is and she's not one I recall having read anything about that on. That might be a possible issue? We know with the F4 there are all confirmations that they share similar faith inclinations - maybe L didn't?

She's adorable and they are cute together! I think they seem very easy together and both get a little blushy (I know that's not a word really) together. I find her very likeable and think she'd be an interesting one as a possible lead (and hope she doesn't end up too heartbroken at the end of this - maybe she takes herself out for some reason?)...she or Desiree. I still hope RS is wrong with his spoiler regarding the likely Bachette.

I'm very interested to read Shay's blog about this episode and this date in particular (besides trying to explain this date to the kids! Ha) - maybe she'll inadvertently give some insight into what went wrong...of course I think she reads here so probably not!

I think if Sean's faith was that important to him, and going to be a deal breaker.... he shouldn't be doing the Bach.... period. A church social would be a better fit then.

ninu wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:He has had two really cute dates with both Leslie and Desiree, it will be interesting to watch what happens. I kind of like how he doesn't seem fixated on one girl too early.

It makes for some really cute dates, IMO... but I'm not sure it bodes well for F1. It's already a stretch to fall in love with someone in 8 weeks provided the lead had focused in starting week 1 or 2... but this whole "digging multiple girls" thing makes me even more skeptical.

That said, Sean himself is so genuine and a hopeless romantic that I hope it works out for them

See I always found it to be the opposite. I think they too often get caught up in the lust part and forget the friendship part of the relationship and that is why they don't work out. Lust can cool off, but when you really like the person as a friend you have common ground to go on.

I think Sean is pretty genuine, so hopefully he will take finding the right girl serious.

Is there a working live stream of this?

They're really making Chris perform hard for his peanuts this season. I like his pants.

Talk about some ill fitting swim suits.

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I think the 12 year olds I coach for JO volleyball could beat these girls.

I'd say, going by previous season date arrangements.... Desiree (1 date the first week) and Lesley (2nd week world record kissing date) were the 2 girls that first caught his attention at the M&G.

northernviewer wrote:

I think if Sean's faith was that important to him, and going to be a deal breaker.... he shouldn't be doing the Bach.... period. A church social would be a better fit then.

Just repeating what he said in an ESPN interview:

I understand religion is a big part of your life and will be part of the show?

"Yes, I was very lucky and blessed to grow up in a home where faith is center. At some point each person needs to take ownership of that. I probably didn't take ownership until my mid-20s. That's when I became more mature in my faith. That's the best decision of my life. You'll see it talked about on the show. If it's the center of my life, I want it to be the center of my spouse's life as well."

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they are really hiding the F2