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Post by newfiegirl Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:50 pm

Maybe they are scared of us sleuthers because if shown previews of both ladies walking to the FRC we would start dissecting the time of day, shadows, positioning at the rose pedestal, etc. LOL we would have the 'winner' already chosen before the episode aired.
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Post by northernviewer Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:05 pm

richmondrose wrote:
newfiegirl wrote:I think they are trying to make us think there is only 1 at the FRC. We have Whit's indecisiveness at the FD (not sure what she wants, doesn't want to hurt Brad, etc.), then just enough previews showing her walking away (blue dress) with Brad saying "you're just going to walk away", plus supposedly only one type of dress coming to the FRC. I believe they both are at the FRC and we are supposed to be surprised because of the Whit edit. As to who Brad chooses I keep changing my mind.

It does appear that they are trying to fool us into thinking only one girl is at the FRC. What makes me cautious is that they are giving us SC of Bianka as the one who shows up which leads us to believe she is the winner when in fact she may not be.

It's not like they're showing sc's of Bianka's face. The viewers see a girl in a white dress ... and it's to a VO over Whitney talking... so I don't think too many are going to jump to the conclusion that it's her. How many viewers would notice a tan line on a pinkie finger - or remember what colour nail polish Bianka has worn in the past... or what her toes look like?? The edit is pointing to him choosing Whitney... sleuthing points to Bianka being F1.


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Post by Hotmomma Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:12 pm

northernviewer wrote:
Hotmomma wrote:
newfiegirl wrote:I think they are trying to make us think there is only 1 at the FRC. We have Whit's indecisiveness at the FD (not sure what she wants, doesn't want to hurt Brad, etc.), then just enough previews showing her walking away (blue dress) with Brad saying "you're just going to walk away", plus supposedly only one type of dress coming to the FRC. I believe they both are at the FRC and we are supposed to be surprised because of the Whit edit. As to who Brad chooses I keep changing my mind.
I can see that happening...showing one girl at the FRC..for the viewers to believe that Whit walked away..She probably will be at the FRC.

It kinda reminds me of Ben/JP all over again.. giggling

I think she'll be at FRC too.... just not wearing the same shoes as Bianka :gotcha:

after all, it's not like they're besties who went to Payless for a BOGO sale :giggle:
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Post by richmondrose Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:23 pm

northernviewer wrote:
richmondrose wrote:
newfiegirl wrote:I think they are trying to make us think there is only 1 at the FRC. We have Whit's indecisiveness at the FD (not sure what she wants, doesn't want to hurt Brad, etc.), then just enough previews showing her walking away (blue dress) with Brad saying "you're just going to walk away", plus supposedly only one type of dress coming to the FRC. I believe they both are at the FRC and we are supposed to be surprised because of the Whit edit. As to who Brad chooses I keep changing my mind.

It does appear that they are trying to fool us into thinking only one girl is at the FRC. What makes me cautious is that they are giving us SC of Bianka as the one who shows up which leads us to believe she is the winner when in fact she may not be.

It's not like they're showing sc's of Bianka's face. The viewers see a girl in a white dress ... and it's to a VO over Whitney talking... so I don't think too many are going to jump to the conclusion that it's her. How many viewers would notice a tan line on a pinkie finger - or remember what colour nail polish Bianka has worn in the past... or what her toes look like?? The edit is pointing to him choosing Whitney... sleuthing points to Bianka being F1.

I don't remeber much of Ben's season other than the bad behaviour and the skinny dipping because both he and Courtney were turn offs for me, but correct me if I'm wrong, TP teased Lindsay in the black dress and no peek of Courtney until the paparazzi blew the top off everything. Courtney ended up being the "winner".
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Post by newfiegirl Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:24 pm

northernviewer wrote:
richmondrose wrote:
newfiegirl wrote:I think they are trying to make us think there is only 1 at the FRC. We have Whit's indecisiveness at the FD (not sure what she wants, doesn't want to hurt Brad, etc.), then just enough previews showing her walking away (blue dress) with Brad saying "you're just going to walk away", plus supposedly only one type of dress coming to the FRC. I believe they both are at the FRC and we are supposed to be surprised because of the Whit edit. As to who Brad chooses I keep changing my mind.

It does appear that they are trying to fool us into thinking only one girl is at the FRC. What makes me cautious is that they are giving us SC of Bianka as the one who shows up which leads us to believe she is the winner when in fact she may not be.

It's not like they're showing sc's of Bianka's face. The viewers see a girl in a white dress ... and it's to a VO over Whitney talking... so I don't think too many are going to jump to the conclusion that it's her. How many viewers would notice a tan line on a pinkie finger - or remember what colour nail polish Bianka has worn in the past... or what her toes look like?? The edit is pointing to him choosing Whitney... sleuthing points to Bianka being F1.

So true NV. If I take off my sleuther hat and look at it from a viewer perspective that's all we see is a girl in a white dress, as to who it is has been hidden. Having seen the preview after the WTA would have me as a viewer thinking that someone leaves. Here is what they see and hear: Brad inside standing facing door, VO saying "It's like a whirlwind has just hit me "; then Brad's outside walking toward building we see his back (can't see who is in front of him), VO "Are you going to walk away from me really?"; then Brad inside turning away from door, VO "I don't even know that to think"; then Brad outside we see his back walking across the road, VO "I am still in absolute shock"; then Bianka's face, no VO; then the back of Brad's head looking at Whitney (we see her face), VO of Brad "Was she lying to me this entire time?" he then shakes his head. At no time did they actually show words coming out of Brad's mouth. So as a viewer I would think someone left. Then with only the preview of a WDG, would leave me to think only one person shows a the FRC. But my sleuther hat is on and with the help of my sleuther friends we know differently.
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Post by just logic Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:43 pm

I'm still thinking we've only seen the one dress that just appears to be different due to the lighting. All the dress shots show a dress that appears to be white (or shades of - depending on the lighting) all shots show a gauzy dress - even the dress by the car that appears to be of a heavier material if you look you can see all of Tyler's leg so, it's a gauzy material. Have a hard time believing both girls would choose dresses so similiar and with similiar, if not identical, shoes.


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Post by Mirzam Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:47 pm

richmondrose wrote:
northernviewer wrote:
richmondrose wrote:
newfiegirl wrote:I think they are trying to make us think there is only 1 at the FRC. We have Whit's indecisiveness at the FD (not sure what she wants, doesn't want to hurt Brad, etc.), then just enough previews showing her walking away (blue dress) with Brad saying "you're just going to walk away", plus supposedly only one type of dress coming to the FRC. I believe they both are at the FRC and we are supposed to be surprised because of the Whit edit. As to who Brad chooses I keep changing my mind.

It does appear that they are trying to fool us into thinking only one girl is at the FRC. What makes me cautious is that they are giving us SC of Bianka as the one who shows up which leads us to believe she is the winner when in fact she may not be.

It's not like they're showing sc's of Bianka's face. The viewers see a girl in a white dress ... and it's to a VO over Whitney talking... so I don't think too many are going to jump to the conclusion that it's her. How many viewers would notice a tan line on a pinkie finger - or remember what colour nail polish Bianka has worn in the past... or what her toes look like?? The edit is pointing to him choosing Whitney... sleuthing points to Bianka being F1.

I don't remeber much of Ben's season other than the bad behaviour and the skinny dipping because both he and Courtney were turn offs for me, but correct me if I'm wrong, TP teased Lindsay in the black dress and no peek of Courtney until the paparazzi blew the top off everything. Courtney ended up being the "winner".

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Post by Mirzam Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:27 pm

just logic wrote:I'm still thinking we've only seen the one dress that just appears to be different due to the lighting. All the dress shots show a dress that appears to be white (or shades of - depending on the lighting) all shots show a gauzy dress - even the dress by the car that appears to be of a heavier material if you look you can see all of Tyler's leg so, it's a gauzy material. Have a hard time believing both girls would choose dresses so similiar and with similiar, if not identical, shoes.

I have been watching the season preview, comparing the two dresses, and I am completely convinced there are two WDGs. I don't know how to do SCs but if anyone can be bothered to make a cap at the 3.52 when the girl is getting out of the limo, it is clear to see the dress is not at all the same as the one Bianka is wearing.
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Post by Mirzam Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:34 pm

I have also been examining the shoes and they do look slightly different. The girl walking towards Brad's shoes look black and girl getting out of the is wearing brown shoes. Also it looks to me like the girl with Brad doesn't have Bianka's black hair.

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Post by Aunties_Love Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:20 pm

Mirzam wrote:
anders wrote:this is the one that appears that she is wearing a ring - frankly I think the glint is too far down on her finger to be a ring, it'a actually on her hand.
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I can see what you mean anders.
To me it is on her finger, you can see a distinct line where her fingers end and her hand starts. where the ring is, it is on her finger.


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Post by Aunties_Love Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:23 pm

richmondrose wrote:I've been sewing clothes for most of my life and like Mirzam, I'm pretty sure there are two WDG. The form fitting dress is Bianka and the looser one is Whitney.
I guess I have a hard time believing that both of the women would wear whitish dresses and wear the same shoes going to a FRC. That seems really hard to believe.


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Post by Aunties_Love Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:26 pm

Mirzam wrote: deadhorse

There is no way in my mind this is the same dress
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I am having trouble with the shoes too anders. :crazed
All you have to do is to look at how much fabric is gathered around the feet in the pic where she's getting out of the car, then look at how there is still loose fabric around her feet as she is in a full gait walking around the grounds. Also, look at how she is gathering up the fabric around her butt with her hands as she is getting out of the car so the dress is the same, shoes the same, it is the same girl.


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