Episode 3 - 6/6 - Discussion - Spoilers

dee wrote:
Well Frank also had a girl back home to fall back on (maybe ryan does too, it's not shown yet LOL kidding). I feel Ryan liked Ashley more than Frank did with Ali (not sure if I'm making any sense)... because I don't see how he would want to come back to Fiji. This edit makes me sad LOL. I wanted to see him for the next Bachelor role. I really can't picture the other f4 (minus JP) suit the role.

Oh I agree... we have the whole love is mightier than the sun routine. Ryan really is committed to Ashley (but doubt she is with him) and, no, he probably does not have a girl at home. Then again, Frank was basically over his girl until he met her again and we got all of that "I feel sick" talk... but I'll bet he already knew he wasn't Ali's one by that stage.

I thought Ben F. was a better choice for Bachelor than Ryan at first, but since the editors buried him again... I'm not so sure. Then, there is all that "stuff" in the previews that once again has me swinging back to thinking Ben as Bach again. Even though he's being buried, the footage we see is all positive. He also has that "guarded" storyline introduced at the beginning that they love for The Star, echoing Ashley.

cupcakes wrote:It's pretty obvious Ben F, Dino and Ames were not on her radar at this point. Things obviously change since they all make the F4, but at this point I think they were just there.

well she had to take some one to the f4

Pattycake92 wrote:

Larel wrote:Are we sure JP is Final 1 ?

What are your thoughts? I don't see a connection with anyone else at this point.

I saw it with William for sure but not sure what will happen now, he seems a little too childish still to get married.

I do adore him though, those teeth, that hair those dimples. I want to squeeze his face off he is so adorable, so I get why Ashley kept him still. :laughingoutlou

Alanna wrote:

Alexxxx wrote:

ninu wrote:I have no doubt JP Ash by the end of this... he's so cute and concerned about her... I'm worried about the reciprocity of the relationship - much like Brad in looove with Emily and Emily not really caring as much JM2C

I could see it ending this way. She was still whining and crying over Bentley after her date with JP. There were 24 guys there more into her than Bentley was, but she wanted Bentley. I don't know how the F1 feels like anything other than a default after tonight.

The worst part is that she felt alone at the RC after Bentley left. I remember Ali blogging somewhere that she never felt alone because she knew she could always go see Roberto. Well, I guess Bentley was her Roberto.

Thoughts on the epi:

- She fell for Bentley hard and fast, by her own admission. Still wonder if it's b/c of him personally or if it's b/c she thought "maybe the popular boy really did like her". Her dream was smashed.
- TPTB knew her insecurities and played on the two biggest ones big time. I believe that TPTB had to talk her into continuing.
- When Ashley says she's hurt, it likely refers to more than just Bentley leaving.
- Ashley looked so defeated at the RC. Her pre-RC deliberation was still emotional for her, indicating her level of hurt.
- I believe JP could be F1, but need to see evidence that she feels "it" for him.
- I'm afraid to say ~ who is Ben F.?
- Thought the outtake told the story about who Jeff and Bentley really area. Absolutely hilarious!

I bet Ashley will have better communication with her F1 than Brad did with Emily, regarding what really happened when the F1 wasn't around. Emily seemed shocked that Brad had been even slightly interested in Chantal. Ashley seems so open- I would imagine she'd be very up front about what the F1 might expect to see on TV.

cupcakes wrote:It's pretty obvious Ben F, Dino and Ames were not on her radar at this point. Things obviously change since they all make the F4, but at this point I think they were just there.

Omg they do? Ames, seriously?

William fell down a few notches with me. He has this grand idea of wanting to be a stand up comedian and boy did he go for it! I feel now he wants to be discovered as a comedian. I just don't feel he is there for the right reasons now IMO.

mnmhughes wrote:You can be hurt by somebody and not in love with them. I've had exes who have hurt me in the past, but it doesn't mean I still have feelings for them. I'm happily married and in love with my hubby.

Agreed mnm! Especially if she is only now hearing some of the actual hateful things that Bentley is saying.

Hotmomma wrote:

cupcakes wrote:It's pretty obvious Ben F, Dino and Ames were not on her radar at this point. Things obviously change since they all make the F4, but at this point I think they were just there.

well she had to take some one to the f4

I think I'll wait to next week and see Dino and Ames 1 on 1 and what partakes as to why they are in the F4. The little bit I've seen of Dino, he looks like he's fun and nice guy, who I find sexy. Maybe Ash does too and that's why he's F3? Ames is more of a puzzle to me at this point, but he's F4, so it's not that big a deal. Most F4's have the friend vibe bigtime.

Honestly, this show has been a disappointment for me so far. It's been so focused on the drama, and there just hasn't been much chemistry shown between Ashley and many of the men. At this point its pretty obvious that JP is the winner and as much as I like them together, I also like a little bit of mystery in the process. I hope next week a few other contestants become plausible F2-F4, otherwise I think I'm out for the season. :greenman:

Loved Bency's date...think he's great! I'm liking Ryan a lot too at this point. Don't know why there's so much Ryan hate in the next episode...Glad the mask and the greasy buffoon are finally gone. They were seriously overplayed.

JBF wrote:

dee wrote:
Well Frank also had a girl back home to fall back on (maybe ryan does too, it's not shown yet LOL kidding). I feel Ryan liked Ashley more than Frank did with Ali (not sure if I'm making any sense)... because I don't see how he would want to come back to Fiji. This edit makes me sad LOL. I wanted to see him for the next Bachelor role. I really can't picture the other f4 (minus JP) suit the role.

Oh I agree... we have the whole love is mightier than the sun routine. Ryan really is committed to Ashley (but doubt she is with him) and, no, he probably does not have a girl at home. Then again, Frank was basically over his girl until he met her again and we got all of that "I feel sick" talk... but I'll bet he already knew he wasn't Ali's one by that stage.

I thought Ben F. was a better choice for Bachelor than Ryan at first, but since the editors buried him again... I'm not so sure. Then, there is all that "stuff" in the previews that once again has me swinging back to thinking Ben as Bach again. Even though he's being buried, the footage we see is all positive. He also has that "guarded" storyline introduced at the beginning that they love for The Star, echoing Ashley.

Yeah I love Ben F as well. But I don't know... I feel like there's a certain "type" for those cast for the lead. I also thought they allowed Ryan to come back because they wanted him as the next bachelor, but I don't see how the producers will make the audience feel he would be a good one (now), now that they aired that promo. Maybe his over the top behavior lasts for two episodes. There was a clip of Blake telling him how the other guys were feeling. perhaps he dials is down then?

I'm guessing TPTB didn't show Ashley what Bentley said behind her back so that they can humilate her again when he returns. I can't believe she kisses him in Hong Kong.