Re: Possible F1 *Spoilers* - Thread #1

[IrishGal]

[Beeleever]

I loved Chris and Chantal and they both ended up being the F2. I also like Ben F this season, but it is impossible to deny that J.P and Ashley have the strongest bond at this point.

It bugs me the Bentley drama takes away from the time we could be seeing Ben and Ashley talk or even Constantine and Ashley chat. We had no 1-1 alone interactions between Ben F, Constantine, or Ames shown last week. Not on their group date or at the cocktail party.

Not a good sign or TPTB are doing something different this season.

Looks like they really jumped the shark this season with this insulting roast and Bentley. This is the worst treatment of a bachelorette ever, imo, completely threw poor Ashley under the bus in so many ways. Shame on Fleiss, he' so evil.

TPTB knew Ash was very insecure about the guys preferring Emily or Chantal to her. They planned this roast and encouraged the guys to play on those insecurities. I think Ashley Spivey knows exactly what is really going on and who is to blame. If you are still questioning it, go read Tina's blog that BlondieGal posted. I'm so glad JP isn't on this date. He will have his own special fiasco to deal with, picking up the pieces from Bentley's timely departure.

[CarrieA]

I feel bad so for JP without even seeing the episode yet. First the guys rip on Ashley then Bentley is a complete and total D-Bag and up and leaves.. leaving JP to pick up the pieces during his first date with her. Poor guy

[ninu]

I loved Chris and Chantal and they both ended up being the F2. I also like Ben F this season, but it is impossible to deny that J.P and Ashley have the strongest bond at this point.

It bugs me the Bentley drama takes away from the time we could be seeing Ben and Ashley talk or even Constantine and Ashley chat. We had no 1-1 alone interactions between Ben F, Constantine, or Ames shown last week. Not on their group date or at the cocktail party.

Not a good sign or TPTB are doing something different this season.

Looks like they really jumped the shark this season with this insulting roast and Bentley. This is the worst treatment of a bachelorette ever, imo, completely threw poor Ashley under the bus in so many ways. Shame on Fleiss, he' so evil.

TPTB knew Ash was very insecure about the guys preferring Emily or Chantal to her. They planned this roast and encouraged the guys to play on those insecurities. I think Ashley Spivey knows exactly what is really going on and who is to blame. If you are still questioning it, go read Tina's blog that BlondieGal posted. I'm so glad JP isn't on this date. He will have his own special fiasco to deal with, picking up the pieces from Bentley's timely departure.

Sorry, maybe I'm just being dense, but what does Ashley Spivey have to do with any of this?

[happy2bme]

Episode 3 should start emerging a pattern for the edit. Hopefully all of us can keep emotion and spoilers out while watching and discussing the outcome.
I love you guys :awesome: but sleuthing gets very difficult when a fan favourite is the only discussion and viable option in most of the threads .

As a Ben F. fan, I am scared! But I promise I will never be as disrespectful as some of the Emily fans were last season. I was a Roberto fan, also, and I survived. We will all be okay as long as we are civil. :halo: :winkie:

I'm gonna try to keep it cool too. I like a few of these guys so it does not matter to me one over the other. Ben F is cool, Ryan, Ben C., JP, Ames. Not a bad bunch. Blake is a bit too bland for me and something about Mickey scares me.

[Guest]

I loved Chris and Chantal and they both ended up being the F2. I also like Ben F this season, but it is impossible to deny that J.P and Ashley have the strongest bond at this point.

It bugs me the Bentley drama takes away from the time we could be seeing Ben and Ashley talk or even Constantine and Ashley chat. We had no 1-1 alone interactions between Ben F, Constantine, or Ames shown last week. Not on their group date or at the cocktail party.

Not a good sign or TPTB are doing something different this season.

Looks like they really jumped the shark this season with this insulting roast and Bentley. This is the worst treatment of a bachelorette ever, imo, completely threw poor Ashley under the bus in so many ways. Shame on Fleiss, he' so evil.

TPTB knew Ash was very insecure about the guys preferring Emily or Chantal to her. They planned this roast and encouraged the guys to play on those insecurities. I think Ashley Spivey knows exactly what is really going on and who is to blame. If you are still questioning it, go read Tina's blog that BlondieGal posted. I'm so glad JP isn't on this date. He will have his own special fiasco to deal with, picking up the pieces from Bentley's timely departure.

Sorry, maybe I'm just being dense, but what does Ashley Spivey have to do with any of this?

This tweet is in another thread:

AshleySpivey Had to turn off tonight's episode of the #Bachelorette halfway thru - made my stomach hurt. Might finish it tomorrow or watch it live.
about 1 hour ago via Twitter for iPhone

[Beeleever]

I loved Chris and Chantal and they both ended up being the F2. I also like Ben F this season, but it is impossible to deny that J.P and Ashley have the strongest bond at this point.

It bugs me the Bentley drama takes away from the time we could be seeing Ben and Ashley talk or even Constantine and Ashley chat. We had no 1-1 alone interactions between Ben F, Constantine, or Ames shown last week. Not on their group date or at the cocktail party.

Not a good sign or TPTB are doing something different this season.

Looks like they really jumped the shark this season with this insulting roast and Bentley. This is the worst treatment of a bachelorette ever, imo, completely threw poor Ashley under the bus in so many ways. Shame on Fleiss, he' so evil.

TPTB knew Ash was very insecure about the guys preferring Emily or Chantal to her. They planned this roast and encouraged the guys to play on those insecurities. I think Ashley Spivey knows exactly what is really going on and who is to blame. If you are still questioning it, go read Tina's blog that BlondieGal posted. I'm so glad JP isn't on this date. He will have his own special fiasco to deal with, picking up the pieces from Bentley's timely departure.

Sorry, maybe I'm just being dense, but what does Ashley Spivey have to do with any of this?

Ashley Spivey and Ashley Hebert are BFF's. That's why she had to turn off the show after only watching half. Having been on the show, she knows first hand the behind the scenes manipulation that goes on.

[nikkij_26]

I loved Chris and Chantal and they both ended up being the F2. I also like Ben F this season, but it is impossible to deny that J.P and Ashley have the strongest bond at this point.

It bugs me the Bentley drama takes away from the time we could be seeing Ben and Ashley talk or even Constantine and Ashley chat. We had no 1-1 alone interactions between Ben F, Constantine, or Ames shown last week. Not on their group date or at the cocktail party.

Not a good sign or TPTB are doing something different this season.

Looks like they really jumped the shark this season with this insulting roast and Bentley. This is the worst treatment of a bachelorette ever, imo, completely threw poor Ashley under the bus in so many ways. Shame on Fleiss, he' so evil.

TPTB knew Ash was very insecure about the guys preferring Emily or Chantal to her. They planned this roast and encouraged the guys to play on those insecurities. I think Ashley Spivey knows exactly what is really going on and who is to blame. If you are still questioning it, go read Tina's blog that BlondieGal posted. I'm so glad JP isn't on this date. He will have his own special fiasco to deal with, picking up the pieces from Bentley's timely departure.

Sorry, maybe I'm just being dense, but what does Ashley Spivey have to do with any of this?

Ashley Spivey and Ashley Hebert are BFF's. That's why she had to turn off the show after only watching half. Having been on the show, she knows first hand the behind the scenes manipulation that goes on.

I think she just turned it off because she saw how Ashley ws falling for Bentley while being able to see how the real Bentley was acting in PI's detailing how he was going to play with he rmind. She just had a hard time seeing her friend hurt by Bentley.

[IrishGal]

Ashley H also just saw they edited it. I have to wonder...did they tell her they were gonna mess with her insecurities?

[anders]

He might be getting Fleissed again - but I'm going to assume that if he is, there are multiple people that are trying to Fleiss him since I can't imagine he would even think about going back to the same people who told he it was Chantal or told him that Ali was definitely single. I would hope he is brighter than that!

Could be we’re all getting Fleissed – from RS to the audience. The edit is clearly pointing to JP, but we know MF doesn’t care about a love story – he cares about the drama. Don’t forget that Deanna never got a 1:1 date, Tessa’s 1:1 date came late, as did Jen’s (Firestone). He could be giving us JP on a silver platter because it worked for Roberto and Emily and now he’s going old school on us and completely hiding F1 again….who knows. There’s always the possibility that JP is F1 and he and Ash never made it past the FRC.

RS has never provided proof in the past, why do we put that onus on him this season? Just because he was wrong last season??

[tigertiz]

Don't be scared IrishGal! I think we can all agree that if anything we are all team Ashley (nice signature btw) and as long as she is happy what does it really matter? Just because we have a favorite doesn't mean it's her guy So far the only reason I like JP is because I have seen him on the screen talking to Ashley, when Ben gets a chance I'm sure he will be just as adorable!

The reason I like JP is because I think there are plenty of women in this world who would give anything to have a man look at them the way JP looks at Ash...if she is not the one for him then there is another very lucky woman out there who will be on the receiving end of "the look". :awesome:

What a lovely thing to say. I agree.

[Starshine_16]

Me too. The same thing I saw with Ali and Roberto.

Agree!!!

And I can't promise that I will keep my JP love on the downlow!! No matter if he is F1 or F2!

I always make a practice of choosing 2-3 guys ay the M&G who intyerest me and who I want to know more of.Generally one of my original picks at least makes it to HTD's.JP was one of my original pics even before he met Ashley.

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