Re: Possible F1 *Spoilers* - Thread #1

[Bloomers]

Steve just responded to me and was super nice. :D

Here's part of his email with his permission:

I will continue to say what I said on Wednesday. Wait til Aug. 1st. Nothing I say will convince anyone otherwise.

Two things I will say:

Ali's blog? Huh? I don't base my information on anything she says, whatever it was.

"We've confirmed something that would indicate otherwise" - then doesn't tell you what it is? Yeah, I'd put a lot of stock into that.

Like I said, nothing I wouldn't expect people to say after I released she's with JP. Nothing but people trying to ankle bite and think they have a story when they don't. But hey, I swore for 2 months it was Chantal last season, so I'm not gonna beat on my chest that it's JP. Even though I know it is. Aug. 1st can't come soon enough.

TVFanSpace? Have they ever had info on anything in the history of this show? I rest my case.

I'm seriously rooting for Steve to be right- not only because I like Ash/JP together but also because if someone has to win this war between Steve and the Fleissmiester, I'm in Steve's camp all the way. At the very least, he doesn't torture the Bettes for sport.

Thanks, Alanna, for contacting him and posting this. I'm rooting HARD for him to be right too...

I am crazy about the details that RS gives on the episode dates, but and please, somebody, correct me if I am wrong here, but does RS gives us his proof how he knows JP is F1? Does RS ever give us his proof how he knows what he says?
He isn't going to blow his source, and RS will tell us outright he isn't blowing his sources. I don't have a problem with that. However, if he isn't going to expose his source, then he might not want to point out that they didn't expose theirs either?

(I hope this is seen more as common sense than has a huge criticism).

[nd4reality]

Bloomers ^^^^ LOL.
RS has some stuff confirmed (via photographs etc) and some via "information" that has fallen on his lap.
I don't get that he has actual proof from reading the last couple of blogs just deductive reasoning and some guess work. But thats just me.

[Guest]

Unless RS can produce a photograph of JP proposing to Ashley then I an not believing a thing about him been the final 1.

[Bloomers]

Bloomers ^^^^ LOL.
RS has some stuff confirmed (via photographs etc) and some via "information" that has fallen on his lap.I don't get that he has actual proof from reading the last couple of blogs just deductive reasoning and some guess work. But thats just me.

First, JP looks like F1 to me, but I just want to be careful here, because it sure has been too easy! That "information that fell on his lap" - is that like the information last season about Brad eating Thanksgiving with Chantal and her family in Palms Springs that he "just came by" or something like that? He was so confident of that , too.

Now, the photos could be of their last dates. If so, what does that tell? We know that Ashley had a last date with each one of them unless something happened like with Ali. Frankly, I bet we don't see that again.
I personally think they let her pull that, but they weren't happy about it. They like their format: 2 last dates, and 2 couples at the FRC.

[nd4reality]

Bloomers ^^^^ LOL.
RS has some stuff confirmed (via photographs etc) and some via "information" that has fallen on his lap.I don't get that he has actual proof from reading the last couple of blogs just deductive reasoning and some guess work. But thats just me.

First, JP looks like F1 to me, but I just want to be careful here, because it sure has been too easy! That "information that fell on his lap" - is that like the information last season about Brad eating Thanksgiving with Chantal and her family in Palms Springs that he "just came by" or something like that? He was so confident of that , too.

Now, the photos could be of their last dates. If so, what does that tell? We know that Ashley had a last date with each one of them unless something happened like with Ali. Frankly, I bet we don't see that again.
I personally think they let her pull that, but they weren't happy about it. They like their format: 2 last dates, and 2 couples at the FRC.

RS has described their outfit on the dates so therefore he does have some proof right ? But what about the engagement proof ? How would he get confirmation of that ? Thats is what has to be assumed because he just says it with confidence.

[pavalygurl]

Bloomers ^^^^ LOL.
RS has some stuff confirmed (via photographs etc) and some via "information" that has fallen on his lap.I don't get that he has actual proof from reading the last couple of blogs just deductive reasoning and some guess work. But thats just me.

First, JP looks like F1 to me, but I just want to be careful here, because it sure has been too easy! That "information that fell on his lap" - is that like the information last season about Brad eating Thanksgiving with Chantal and her family in Palms Springs that he "just came by" or something like that? He was so confident of that , too.

Now, the photos could be of their last dates. If so, what does that tell? We know that Ashley had a last date with each one of them unless something happened like with Ali. Frankly, I bet we don't see that again.
I personally think they let her pull that, but they weren't happy about it. They like their format: 2 last dates, and 2 couples at the FRC.

That's the part that has me wondering as well. I kept re-reading RS's blog to see if I had missed something. All I got from it was that he knew who wore what on one of their last dates. This proves JP and Ben were there, but did he get verification of the FRC, and if so what is that...can he tell us more about that without blowing his source. I don't know what to think. Personally, I think RS is right about a lot of stuff...but, he did get Fleissed last season, so I don't know.

[klarson79]

He might be getting Fleissed again - but I'm going to assume that if he is, there are multiple people that are trying to Fleiss him since I can't imagine he would even think about going back to the same people who told he it was Chantal or told him that Ali was definitely single. I would hope he is brighter than that!

[black_tears]

Steve just responded to me and was super nice. :D

Here's part of his email with his permission:

I will continue to say what I said on Wednesday. Wait til Aug. 1st. Nothing I say will convince anyone otherwise.

Two things I will say:

Ali's blog? Huh? I don't base my information on anything she says, whatever it was.

"We've confirmed something that would indicate otherwise" - then doesn't tell you what it is? Yeah, I'd put a lot of stock into that.

Like I said, nothing I wouldn't expect people to say after I released she's with JP. Nothing but people trying to ankle bite and think they have a story when they don't. But hey, I swore for 2 months it was Chantal last season, so I'm not gonna beat on my chest that it's JP. Even though I know it is. Aug. 1st can't come soon enough.

TVFanSpace? Have they ever had info on anything in the history of this show? I rest my case.

I'm seriously rooting for Steve to be right- not only because I like Ash/JP together but also because if someone has to win this war between Steve and the Fleissmiester, I'm in Steve's camp all the way. At the very least, he doesn't torture the Bettes for sport.

Wow! A friendly RS? Say it isn't so! Did you happen to ask him why he goes by babymama when he posts here?
I completely agree with him - TVFanSpace has nothing to offer.

[Guest]

Bloomers ^^^^ LOL.
RS has some stuff confirmed (via photographs etc) and some via "information" that has fallen on his lap.I don't get that he has actual proof from reading the last couple of blogs just deductive reasoning and some guess work. But thats just me.

First, JP looks like F1 to me, but I just want to be careful here, because it sure has been too easy! That "information that fell on his lap" - is that like the information last season about Brad eating Thanksgiving with Chantal and her family in Palms Springs that he "just came by" or something like that? He was so confident of that , too.

Now, the photos could be of their last dates. If so, what does that tell? We know that Ashley had a last date with each one of them unless something happened like with Ali. Frankly, I bet we don't see that again.
I personally think they let her pull that, but they weren't happy about it. They like their format: 2 last dates, and 2 couples at the FRC.

RS has described their outfit on the dates so therefore he does have some proof right ? But what about the engagement proof ? How would he get confirmation of that ? Thats is what has to be assumed because he just says it with confidence.

I know posters here have emailed RS, so maybe that would be a good question for him.. He doesn't have to say what it its, but infact does he have actual proof that it is JP, and not just heresay.

[Alanna]

Bloomers ^^^^ LOL.
RS has some stuff confirmed (via photographs etc) and some via "information" that has fallen on his lap.I don't get that he has actual proof from reading the last couple of blogs just deductive reasoning and some guess work. But thats just me.

First, JP looks like F1 to me, but I just want to be careful here, because it sure has been too easy! That "information that fell on his lap" - is that like the information last season about Brad eating Thanksgiving with Chantal and her family in Palms Springs that he "just came by" or something like that? He was so confident of that , too.

Now, the photos could be of their last dates. If so, what does that tell? We know that Ashley had a last date with each one of them unless something happened like with Ali. Frankly, I bet we don't see that again.
I personally think they let her pull that, but they weren't happy about it. They like their format: 2 last dates, and 2 couples at the FRC.

I truly have no idea how he knows but from the several emails we've exchanged today, he seems to know he's right. He can be getting messed with again of course, but it doesn't sound like he's assuming anything. It sounds like he has concrete facts.

[Guest]

Bloomers ^^^^ LOL.
RS has some stuff confirmed (via photographs etc) and some via "information" that has fallen on his lap.I don't get that he has actual proof from reading the last couple of blogs just deductive reasoning and some guess work. But thats just me.

First, JP looks like F1 to me, but I just want to be careful here, because it sure has been too easy! That "information that fell on his lap" - is that like the information last season about Brad eating Thanksgiving with Chantal and her family in Palms Springs that he "just came by" or something like that? He was so confident of that , too.

Now, the photos could be of their last dates. If so, what does that tell? We know that Ashley had a last date with each one of them unless something happened like with Ali. Frankly, I bet we don't see that again.
I personally think they let her pull that, but they weren't happy about it. They like their format: 2 last dates, and 2 couples at the FRC.

I like the sound of that!

I truly have no idea how he knows but from the several emails we've exchanged today, he seems to know he's right. He can be getting messed with again of course, but it doesn't sound like he's assuming anything. It sounds like he has concrete facts.

[black_tears]

Bloomers ^^^^ LOL.
RS has some stuff confirmed (via photographs etc) and some via "information" that has fallen on his lap.I don't get that he has actual proof from reading the last couple of blogs just deductive reasoning and some guess work. But thats just me.

First, JP looks like F1 to me, but I just want to be careful here, because it sure has been too easy! That "information that fell on his lap" - is that like the information last season about Brad eating Thanksgiving with Chantal and her family in Palms Springs that he "just came by" or something like that? He was so confident of that , too.

Now, the photos could be of their last dates. If so, what does that tell? We know that Ashley had a last date with each one of them unless something happened like with Ali. Frankly, I bet we don't see that again.
I personally think they let her pull that, but they weren't happy about it. They like their format: 2 last dates, and 2 couples at the FRC.

I truly have no idea how he knows but from the several emails we've exchanged today, he seems to know he's right. He can be getting messed with again of course, but it doesn't sound like he's assuming anything. It sounds like he has concrete facts.

I'm sure if you would've emailed him during Brad's season he would have just as strongly convinced you of his facts about Chantal being F1. :greenman: Call me cautious.

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