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Post by Archer23 Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:38 pm

I was going to be really interested to see if Emily stuck around in Dallas for a couple of extra days before the RC. (Considering the way Ashley spent extra time in Rozlyn before her RC, I it might possibly be a clue about Sean's status.) But Fleiss's tweeted today that he would be live tweeting again tomorrow, so I assume that means the RC is tomorrow, and there won't be any extra time in Texas.
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Post by lavenderred Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:42 pm

Good analysis Bloomers because the F1 HTD has been last the past few seasons. Also, I checked my TV schedule and there is Sao Paulo qualifying on Saturday so Arie Sr. would need to be there even earlier.

But you sure are shooting down my hopes for Sean as F2. hmmm His dates really do fit the F4 pattern.

I guess this should be in the general analysis tread but do you think Arie's dates were at the same time as Courtney's?
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Post by PennaFlaGirl Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:07 pm

If Sean is F4 (based on Bloomers' analysis) then that would mean one less week of him on my TV. Guess I'll definitely be downloading this season on itunes. Uncle Seanie on my ipad EVERY DAY laugh out loud party time
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Post by Bloomers Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:11 pm

lavenderred wrote:Good analysis Bloomers because the F1 HTD has been last the past few seasons. Also, I checked my TV schedule and there is Sao Paulo qualifying on Saturday so Arie Sr. would need to be there even earlier.

But you sure are shooting down my hopes for Sean as F2. hmmm His dates really do fit the F4 pattern.

I guess this should be in the general analysis tread but do you think Arie's dates were at the same time as Courtney's?

Jef was in the Muppett group date in the 2nd Ep, so that means he most likely had the 3rd Ep Dollywood date. That means that since we saw Arie on the boat in Ep.4, Arie had the 2nd Ep. second 1-1 the same as Courtney's.

Now, I think that Courtney had the last 1-1 in Ep. 7 before the group date whereas it appears that Arie has the first; however, I think that we have to keep in mind that everything about Courtney was edited to emphasize drama. We saw her date last in order to play up her anxiety and then to put Ben on the spot which in turn caused him to make a declaration, etc......

At this point, we don't know that we have those kinds of issues with Arie which would necessitate the scheduling last of his 1-1. Roberto had his 1-1 first in Ep. 7, and so did Emily I believe?

I am trying not to play favorites here because on paper I thought she was better off with Ryan; however, with the edit clues so far, it looks like it is pointing to Arie.

Now, we need to see the group picture and the limo exit. Those are some other clues that sometimes are telling.


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Post by Bloomers Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:15 pm

PennaFlaGirl wrote:If Sean is F4 (based on Bloomers' analysis) then that would mean one less week of him on my TV. Guess I'll definitely be downloading this season on itunes. Uncle Seanie on my ipad EVERY DAY laugh out loud party time

This surely is not the Gospel! They could change their trend and go with something else, and also look what happened with Ben last season. He got to Hometowns and changed his mind after going to Kacie's Hometown Date.

However, that is the way it looks with the data that we have this season added to the data we have from the previous 2 seasons.


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Post by brittany4400 Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:24 pm

So from the filming of htd's it looks like chris will definately be F2 and most certainly in F3?
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Post by veg_out Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:24 pm

Bloomers wrote:

** Right now Arie is the only one in the F4 that we know for sure got a repeat 1-1 date. Unless Sean got a repeat in the 6th episode when we have never known the producers to turn around and give another 1-1 that quickly, then Sean like Nicki and Ames did not get a repeat. Also like Nicki, Sean's 1-1 is in the 5th episode. I am thinking Sean went in as the F4.
Now there could be another shake-up - we heard something at the end of Jef's date from Fleiss.


There's the rub for me. I think that the show expected Ryan in the final four. One of those guys replaced him; we just don't know who yet.

The fact that three of the F3 may not have had a second 1:1 is surprising. Too many possibilities for explanations.
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Post by dee Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:32 pm

veg_out wrote:
Bloomers wrote:

** Right now Arie is the only one in the F4 that we know for sure got a repeat 1-1 date. Unless Sean got a repeat in the 6th episode when we have never known the producers to turn around and give another 1-1 that quickly, then Sean like Nicki and Ames did not get a repeat. Also like Nicki, Sean's 1-1 is in the 5th episode. I am thinking Sean went in as the F4.
Now there could be another shake-up - we heard something at the end of Jef's date from Fleiss.


There's the rub for me. I think that the show expected Ryan in the final four. One of those guys replaced him; we just don't know who yet.

The fact that three of the F3 may not have had a second 1:1 is surprising. Too many possibilities for explanations.
Wait, how do we know Arie got two 1-1s? I definitely agree that it's more than likely, since he had a 1-1 in episode 7 in Prague... but I guess technically that could have been his one and only 1-1 prior to HTD lol.
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Post by Bloomers Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:38 pm

dee wrote:
veg_out wrote:
Bloomers wrote:

** Right now Arie is the only one in the F4 that we know for sure got a repeat 1-1 date. Unless Sean got a repeat in the 6th episode when we have never known the producers to turn around and give another 1-1 that quickly, then Sean like Nicki and Ames did not get a repeat. Also like Nicki, Sean's 1-1 is in the 5th episode. I am thinking Sean went in as the F4.
Now there could be another shake-up - we heard something at the end of Jef's date from Fleiss.


There's the rub for me. I think that the show expected Ryan in the final four. One of those guys replaced him; we just don't know who yet.

The fact that three of the F3 may not have had a second 1:1 is surprising. Too many possibilities for explanations.
Wait, how do we know Arie got two 1-1s? I definitely agree that it's more than likely, since he had a 1-1 in episode 7 in Prague... but I guess technically that could have been his one and only 1-1 prior to HTD lol.

On the Bermuda group date where the guys are milling around, Emily is standing with her hand on Arie's shoulder. In another picture, we see her walking by slightly behind him but not with the other guys, and in another picture we see her wearing the blue hooded jacket that he had been wearing.

On his 1-1 in Prague, the 2 of them were canoodling on the bridge. They were kissing according to reports, and we saw them arm-in arm walking.

To all of us it was obvious that the familiarity of the body language indicated that they had already spent a lot of time together. We simply believe he had one of those early 1-1s.


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Post by Guest Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:40 pm

dee wrote:
veg_out wrote:
Bloomers wrote:

** Right now Arie is the only one in the F4 that we know for sure got a repeat 1-1 date. Unless Sean got a repeat in the 6th episode when we have never known the producers to turn around and give another 1-1 that quickly, then Sean like Nicki and Ames did not get a repeat. Also like Nicki, Sean's 1-1 is in the 5th episode. I am thinking Sean went in as the F4.
Now there could be another shake-up - we heard something at the end of Jef's date from Fleiss.


There's the rub for me. I think that the show expected Ryan in the final four. One of those guys replaced him; we just don't know who yet.

The fact that three of the F3 may not have had a second 1:1 is surprising. Too many possibilities for explanations.
Wait, how do we know Arie got two 1-1s? I definitely agree that it's more than likely, since he had a 1-1 in episode 7 in Prague... but I guess technically that could have been his one and only 1-1 prior to HTD lol.

I am thinking that Sean replaced Ryan after London.
It appears that Ryan was let go after London where Sean had the special tower dinner date in London...
(As well, it appears that Jef had his special date in London so he could be the "replacer" as well.)

However, on the previews for this season, special attention is made of an aerial view of the Tower of London.
Therefore, I believe that something of significance happened there.

The date with Sean was also the date that MF tweeted about Emily's romantic journey. (when none of us knew they were in England at the time)



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Post by Guest Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:43 pm

Bloomers wrote:
dee wrote:
veg_out wrote:
Bloomers wrote:

** Right now Arie is the only one in the F4 that we know for sure got a repeat 1-1 date. Unless Sean got a repeat in the 6th episode when we have never known the producers to turn around and give another 1-1 that quickly, then Sean like Nicki and Ames did not get a repeat. Also like Nicki, Sean's 1-1 is in the 5th episode. I am thinking Sean went in as the F4.
Now there could be another shake-up - we heard something at the end of Jef's date from Fleiss.


There's the rub for me. I think that the show expected Ryan in the final four. One of those guys replaced him; we just don't know who yet.

The fact that three of the F3 may not have had a second 1:1 is surprising. Too many possibilities for explanations.
Wait, how do we know Arie got two 1-1s? I definitely agree that it's more than likely, since he had a 1-1 in episode 7 in Prague... but I guess technically that could have been his one and only 1-1 prior to HTD laugh out loud.

On the Bermuda group date where the guys are milling around, Emily is standing with her hand on Arie's shoulder. In another picture, we see her walking by slightly behind him but not with the other guys, and in another picture we see her wearing the blue hooded jacket that he had been wearing.

On his 1-1 in Prague, the 2 of them were canoodling on the bridge. They were kissing according to reports, and we saw them arm-in arm walking.

To all of us it was obvious that the familiarity of the body language indicated that they had already spent a lot of time together. We simply believe he had one of those early 1-1s.

We should not rule out the slight possibility that Emily knew Arie from before the show... and hence the familiarity. giggling
I am not discounting anything this season.


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Post by KikiLove Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:46 pm

PennaFlaGirl wrote:If Sean is F4 (based on Bloomers' analysis) then that would mean one less week of him on my TV. Guess I'll definitely be downloading this season on itunes. Uncle Seanie on my ipad EVERY DAY laugh out loud party time

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