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Post by Shelby Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:36 am

JBF wrote:
Shelby wrote:i can do that if someone give me a youtube link of this scene :)

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... and even Chris' yawn move is staged.

I tell ya. Each guy is showing Jefie how to woo a girl. Baby steps. Baby steps. He got over the physical hump and now wishes he had kissed her in every city. Hmmmmm... where have we heard that before? Oh yeah. Arie said something like that on a previous episode.

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Oh... because it is an abc.com link, I bet. Had the same problem when I was out of the country. There is probably another "copy" of that video somewhere... as "Date Night at the Movies! - The Bachelorette". I'm guessing you may not get these links either... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


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Post by Shelby Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:53 am

JBF wrote:Oh... because it is an abc.com link, I bet. Had the same problem when I was out of the country. There is probably another "copy" of that video somewhere...

i saw it today so I know it is somewhere...


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Post by Guest Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:02 am

JBF wrote:
Shelby wrote:i can do that if someone give me a youtube link of this scene Smiley

Just right click your mouse "copy video URL"

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... and even Chris' yawn move is staged.

I tell ya. Each guy is showing Jefie how to woo a girl. Baby steps. Baby steps. He got over the physical hump and now wishes he had kissed her in every city. Hmmmmm... where have we heard that before? Oh yeah. Arie said something like that on a previous episode.

***********

This is all ancient stuff that was posted weeks ago, but adding a few more to our growing list...

Trista can't stop talking babies with Chris Harrison. She is shown working with a little boy in pediatrics.
Emily can't stop talking babies with Chris Harrison. Little Ricki is shown.

On the other hand...
Ryan Sutter '03 intro: "The best thing that could happen to me is I could fall in love with Trista and she in me and we could ride into the sunset happily ever after." No marriage or babytalk here.
Jef '12 intro: "I believe in the fairytale." No marriage or babytalk here.

Charlie, Trista's F2 dumpee, wants to "meet the right woman"
Arie wants to "find the right girl"

Word used a lot in Trista's season, especially by Charlie: hopeless romantic
Word used a lot in Emily's season, especially by Emily... and Kalon (?!): hopeless romantic

Now the "butterflies in my belly" are spoken with different people...

Trista sent home the 41 year old with no kids the first night.
Emily sent home the 41 year old with six kids the first night.

Before Ryan's meeting with Trista in episode #1, discussing his poem, we get Josh saying he will give Trista five boys to get her girl. Afterward, we get Brian the breast implant salesman.
Jef's meeting with Emily in episode #1, discussing his skateboard, is before Doug is crowned a "good dad" thanks to his letter. Before, we get Travis' egg.

Chris Harrison asks Trista in episode #1 "Maybe one of them your future husband?" as the camera pans on three guys with Ryan in the middle.
Emily's episode #1 promo has the voice-over "I want to meet my husband so bad" over a cluster of guys with Jef in the middle.

Trista sees multiple weddings with Ryan on the episode #2 group date.
Emily gets Jef to propose to Miss Piggy on the episode #2 group date.

Russ, Trista's F3, gets the first solo date. Charlie, her F2, gets the second. Ryan gets the last.
Arie gets the first solo date. Sean gets his in London, but before Jef... last of the final three.


Missy, Sarah and Shannon (from Alex's season) all grill Trista's boys in episode #3. They think Charlie is so hot. He's got The Look.
Emily's buds grill her boys in episode #3. They think Sean is hot... and make Sean do more than Charlie had to.

Ah... but Bob Guiney tells us in episode #2 that Trista and Ryan are so different... almost opposites. She is outgoing, while he is shy. Later Charlie feels if Ryan is her "type" than he isn't.
Likewise, Chris says in an edited-out-of-sequence PI that he sees nothing special between Emily and Jef in episode#2. (Actually, many of us think Chris is talking about somebody other than Jef, but it is funny how it was edited as if he was talking about Jef.)

Ryan had his hometown before Russ. Charlie had his last.
Jef had his hometown shot before Arie. Sean had his last.

The quotes are not exact, but similar enough...
Ryan: “The whole, um, living once and taking chances toast… that’s because I really, really want to kiss you and I have been, like, completely scared to do it this whole entire time… and if I let you off out of here without kissing you, not only is everyone gonna shoot me, but I might shoot myself.”

Jef:Um… I kinda feel like I missed out on some opportunities to kinda show you why I’m here and not just tell you. I was, like, killing myself about for leaving without kissing you in Bermuda and I would definitely be really bummed if I didn’t take advantage of London while I’m with you.”
(In Croatia, he tells her he was scared to kiss her.)


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Bravo, JBF!!!! You and I have said from the beginning this is mostly Trista's storyboard. Jef is Ryan Sutter's edit. I've seen everything you took the time to post so concisely. I even copied the video you had of their Vail HTD date when Ryan said about wanting to kiss Trista, to the Jef thread to show so many similarities. It's very obvious, and those who don't care to acknowledge that fact, so conveniently ignore this thread and your posts. Great job!!!! I won't be around much, very busy in real life, so keep up the great work, my friend.


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Post by just logic Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:18 am

Gina wrote:
JBF wrote:
Shelby wrote:i can do that if someone give me a youtube link of this scene Smiley

Just right click your mouse "copy video URL"

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

... and even Chris' yawn move is staged.

I tell ya. Each guy is showing Jefie how to woo a girl. Baby steps. Baby steps. He got over the physical hump and now wishes he had kissed her in every city. Hmmmmm... where have we heard that before? Oh yeah. Arie said something like that on a previous episode.

***********

This is all ancient stuff that was posted weeks ago, but adding a few more to our growing list...

Trista can't stop talking babies with Chris Harrison. She is shown working with a little boy in pediatrics.
Emily can't stop talking babies with Chris Harrison. Little Ricki is shown.

On the other hand...
Ryan Sutter '03 intro: "The best thing that could happen to me is I could fall in love with Trista and she in me and we could ride into the sunset happily ever after." No marriage or babytalk here.
Jef '12 intro: "I believe in the fairytale." No marriage or babytalk here.

Charlie, Trista's F2 dumpee, wants to "meet the right woman"
Arie wants to "find the right girl"

Word used a lot in Trista's season, especially by Charlie: hopeless romantic
Word used a lot in Emily's season, especially by Emily... and Kalon (?!): hopeless romantic

Now the "butterflies in my belly" are spoken with different people...

Trista sent home the 41 year old with no kids the first night.
Emily sent home the 41 year old with six kids the first night.

Before Ryan's meeting with Trista in episode #1, discussing his poem, we get Josh saying he will give Trista five boys to get her girl. Afterward, we get Brian the breast implant salesman.
Jef's meeting with Emily in episode #1, discussing his skateboard, is before Doug is crowned a "good dad" thanks to his letter. Before, we get Travis' egg.

Chris Harrison asks Trista in episode #1 "Maybe one of them your future husband?" as the camera pans on three guys with Ryan in the middle.
Emily's episode #1 promo has the voice-over "I want to meet my husband so bad" over a cluster of guys with Jef in the middle.

Trista sees multiple weddings with Ryan on the episode #2 group date.
Emily gets Jef to propose to Miss Piggy on the episode #2 group date.

Russ, Trista's F3, gets the first solo date. Charlie, her F2, gets the second. Ryan gets the last.
Arie gets the first solo date. Sean gets his in London, but before Jef... last of the final three.


Missy, Sarah and Shannon (from Alex's season) all grill Trista's boys in episode #3. They think Charlie is so hot. He's got The Look.
Emily's buds grill her boys in episode #3. They think Sean is hot... and make Sean do more than Charlie had to.

Ah... but Bob Guiney tells us in episode #2 that Trista and Ryan are so different... almost opposites. She is outgoing, while he is shy. Later Charlie feels if Ryan is her "type" than he isn't.
Likewise, Chris says in an edited-out-of-sequence PI that he sees nothing special between Emily and Jef in episode#2. (Actually, many of us think Chris is talking about somebody other than Jef, but it is funny how it was edited as if he was talking about Jef.)

Ryan had his hometown before Russ. Charlie had his last.
Jef had his hometown shot before Arie. Sean had his last.

The quotes are not exact, but similar enough...
Ryan: “The whole, um, living once and taking chances toast… that’s because I really, really want to kiss you and I have been, like, completely scared to do it this whole entire time… and if I let you off out of here without kissing you, not only is everyone gonna shoot me, but I might shoot myself.”

Jef:Um… I kinda feel like I missed out on some opportunities to kinda show you why I’m here and not just tell you. I was, like, killing myself about for leaving without kissing you in Bermuda and I would definitely be really bummed if I didn’t take advantage of London while I’m with you.”
(In Croatia, he tells her he was scared to kiss her.)


Sunset scene in Colorado
Sunset scene in Utah

clapping!
Bravo, JBF!!!! You and I have said from the beginning this is mostly Trista's storyboard. Jef is Ryan Sutter's edit. I've seen everything you took the time to post so concisely. I even copied the video you had of their Vail HTD date when Ryan said about wanting to kiss Trista, to the Jef thread to show so many similarities. It's very obvious, and those who don't care to acknowledge that fact, so conveniently ignore this thread and your posts. Great job!!!! I won't be around much, very busy in real life, so keep up the great work, my friend.


I do think this is mirroring Trista's season. Just one mistake I noticed up above. Arie didn't get the first solo date - Ryan did and then Joe, Arie got the 3rd. (pretty sure they're in the right order) it's one of the reasons I think she bonded so quickly with Arie - the first 2 1:1's fell far below her expectations that she was just so happy to have one go the way she had hoped.


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Post by Shelby Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:20 am

just logic wrote:
Gina wrote:
JBF wrote:
Shelby wrote:i can do that if someone give me a youtube link of this scene Smiley

Just right click your mouse "copy video URL"

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

... and even Chris' yawn move is staged.

I tell ya. Each guy is showing Jefie how to woo a girl. Baby steps. Baby steps. He got over the physical hump and now wishes he had kissed her in every city. Hmmmmm... where have we heard that before? Oh yeah. Arie said something like that on a previous episode.

***********

This is all ancient stuff that was posted weeks ago, but adding a few more to our growing list...

Trista can't stop talking babies with Chris Harrison. She is shown working with a little boy in pediatrics.
Emily can't stop talking babies with Chris Harrison. Little Ricki is shown.

On the other hand...
Ryan Sutter '03 intro: "The best thing that could happen to me is I could fall in love with Trista and she in me and we could ride into the sunset happily ever after." No marriage or babytalk here.
Jef '12 intro: "I believe in the fairytale." No marriage or babytalk here.

Charlie, Trista's F2 dumpee, wants to "meet the right woman"
Arie wants to "find the right girl"

Word used a lot in Trista's season, especially by Charlie: hopeless romantic
Word used a lot in Emily's season, especially by Emily... and Kalon (?!): hopeless romantic

Now the "butterflies in my belly" are spoken with different people...

Trista sent home the 41 year old with no kids the first night.
Emily sent home the 41 year old with six kids the first night.

Before Ryan's meeting with Trista in episode #1, discussing his poem, we get Josh saying he will give Trista five boys to get her girl. Afterward, we get Brian the breast implant salesman.
Jef's meeting with Emily in episode #1, discussing his skateboard, is before Doug is crowned a "good dad" thanks to his letter. Before, we get Travis' egg.

Chris Harrison asks Trista in episode #1 "Maybe one of them your future husband?" as the camera pans on three guys with Ryan in the middle.
Emily's episode #1 promo has the voice-over "I want to meet my husband so bad" over a cluster of guys with Jef in the middle.

Trista sees multiple weddings with Ryan on the episode #2 group date.
Emily gets Jef to propose to Miss Piggy on the episode #2 group date.

Russ, Trista's F3, gets the first solo date. Charlie, her F2, gets the second. Ryan gets the last.
Arie gets the first solo date. Sean gets his in London, but before Jef... last of the final three.


Missy, Sarah and Shannon (from Alex's season) all grill Trista's boys in episode #3. They think Charlie is so hot. He's got The Look.
Emily's buds grill her boys in episode #3. They think Sean is hot... and make Sean do more than Charlie had to.

Ah... but Bob Guiney tells us in episode #2 that Trista and Ryan are so different... almost opposites. She is outgoing, while he is shy. Later Charlie feels if Ryan is her "type" than he isn't.
Likewise, Chris says in an edited-out-of-sequence PI that he sees nothing special between Emily and Jef in episode#2. (Actually, many of us think Chris is talking about somebody other than Jef, but it is funny how it was edited as if he was talking about Jef.)

Ryan had his hometown before Russ. Charlie had his last.
Jef had his hometown shot before Arie. Sean had his last.

The quotes are not exact, but similar enough...
Ryan: “The whole, um, living once and taking chances toast… that’s because I really, really want to kiss you and I have been, like, completely scared to do it this whole entire time… and if I let you off out of here without kissing you, not only is everyone gonna shoot me, but I might shoot myself.”

Jef:Um… I kinda feel like I missed out on some opportunities to kinda show you why I’m here and not just tell you. I was, like, killing myself about for leaving without kissing you in Bermuda and I would definitely be really bummed if I didn’t take advantage of London while I’m with you.”
(In Croatia, he tells her he was scared to kiss her.)


Sunset scene in Colorado
Sunset scene in Utah

clapping!
Bravo, JBF!!!! You and I have said from the beginning this is mostly Trista's storyboard. Jef is Ryan Sutter's edit. I've seen everything you took the time to post so concisely. I even copied the video you had of their Vail HTD date when Ryan said about wanting to kiss Trista, to the Jef thread to show so many similarities. It's very obvious, and those who don't care to acknowledge that fact, so conveniently ignore this thread and your posts. Great job!!!! I won't be around much, very busy in real life, so keep up the great work, my friend.


I do think this is mirroring Trista's season. Just one mistake I noticed up above. Arie didn't get the first solo date - Ryan did and then Joe, Arie got the 3rd. (pretty sure they're in the right order) it's one of the reasons I think she bonded so quickly with Arie - the first 2 1:1's fell far below her expectations that she was just so happy to have one go the way she had hoped.

you forget chris...

i think it was

ryan
chris
joe
arie


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Post by LoveDovez Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:21 am

Shelby wrote:sometimes I feel as if this edit thread is JBF exclusive. :giggle:

I like to read you JBF. I think your sneaking way to analyze the edits is refreshing. You are very often nailing the obvious. yes



Shelby, I totally agree. I LOVE JBF's posts and could read them all day. I always look forward to a new post of his. ; )
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Post by anders Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:47 am

speaking of Trista - have we heard from her this season?


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Post by veg_out Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:05 am

anders wrote:speaking of Trista - have we heard from her this season?

Yup!
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Post by philphan Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:08 am

JBF...awesome job comparing Trista's and Em's season. I have only my memory to go by (which isn't so great) but feel like I'm having some deja vu moments watching this season. After Ben's disappointment of a season, Fleiss wanted to give viewers a good love story. What better season to emulate than Trista/Ryan's? I have been saying all along that Arie is getting the Charlie edit and Jef is getting the Ryan edit. And how I remember the Charlie fans who thought there was no way in heck that Ryan would be the one at the end!
Great job, JBF...you're always a great read!


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Post by JBF Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:39 am

The ONLY reason for all of this is the fact that I "re-found" the Trista tapes recently and watched them BEFORE this season started. Then... WOW! I was shocked by what I was seeing. No Shamu, but we do get the dolphin later... with Arie instead of Jef though. Ryan Sutter was a bit disappointed that Trista kissed the Sea World dolphin before him... and Emily kisses Arie before Jef, so it figures HE would get the dolphin connection. Also Ryan Bowers is the one with love letters. No poetry this season. Ryan Sutter had a poem about a rainbow. We just got the song "The Rainbow Connection" and the visible one in Croatia. Russ brought a bracelet for Trista. Ryan Bowers brings one to Emily, but we don't hear the other guys fuss about it like they did with Russ.

With the 1 on 1 dates and hometowns, I was just referring to the top 3, not anybody else. In fact Trista's top 3 were the only ones getting 1 on 1 dates, so you can't compare it exactly. Her final 4 Greg was just there for the ride.

Oh Gina, I do read that Jef thread periodically, but it has become busier than all of the JP threads last year... and as big as Big Ben clock. We probably need "sub threads" on Jef & his family, Jef & Emily on screen, Jef & his facebook, etc. Ha ha!
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Post by Shelby Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:10 pm

JBF wrote:The ONLY reason for all of this is the fact that I "re-found" the Trista tapes recently and watched them BEFORE this season started. Then... WOW! I was shocked by what I was seeing. No Shamu, but we do get the dolphin later... with Arie instead of Jef though. Ryan Sutter was a bit disappointed that Trista kissed the Sea World dolphin before him... and Emily kisses Arie before Jef, so it figures HE would get the dolphin connection. Also Ryan Bowers is the one with love letters. No poetry this season. Ryan Sutter had a poem about a rainbow. We just got the song "The Rainbow Connection" and the visible one in Croatia. Russ brought a bracelet for Trista. Ryan Bowers brings one to Emily, but we don't hear the other guys fuss about it like they did with Russ.

With the 1 on 1 dates and hometowns, I was just referring to the top 3, not anybody else. In fact Trista's top 3 were the only ones getting 1 on 1 dates, so you can't compare it exactly. Her final 4 Greg was just there for the ride.

Oh Gina, I do read that Jef thread periodically, but it has become busier than all of the JP threads last year... and as big as Big Ben clock. We probably need "sub threads" on Jef & his family, Jef & Emily on screen, Jef & his facebook, etc. Ha ha!

yeah right....

nobody is following the thread titles/purposes. the vids are pretty much everywhere. pics as well etc. giggling

note: would be nice to stick the vids to the right place. not that I do not like it, on contrary but some comments are lost in the middle of the sea of pages and pages of WOW, fantastic and TY (maybe just posting a link to tell people not the vid itself) :WAVEY:


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