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Post by ryvetted Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:21 pm

I saw that one!! Nice how they try to spin it. Too funny giggling


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Post by Shelby Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:29 pm

JamieZ47 wrote:I'm not sure if this goes here.
Did anyone see the new promo last night where they edited out Emily's f***? Also, after she asks Kahlon ( or whoever) if they have anything to say for themselves, you just hear evil laughter.

yes. i mentioned it last week saying that the procuders were masters in editing image and sounds ... and this was a great reminder that we should be careful about what we see all the time


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Post by ironcat Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:11 pm

RichLP wrote:
cindebugg wrote:I don't think Arie was trying to force anything. He just needed a little reassurance as to where she stood and she provided it. Arie is a demonstrative guy. That doesn't make him a player, or in it to win it. I think people need to face the facts, She was hot for Arie. She initiated kisses too. It wasn't just on his end. She couldn't keep her hands off of him on their first date. If she fell in love with Jeff later on then so be it but she had feelings for Arie too.

One moment that was telling to me, was when Arie gave her the reassuring kiss on top of the head... then SHE raised her face and sought out his lips for kisses on the mouth...

ITA that Emily, through episode 4, was eager to kiss, and be kissed by Arie. And considering that he and Sean were the only 2 who had the cojones to really even try probably only furthered that desire.

It's funny because I recall both Ali and Ashley talking about how every guy on their seasons, went in for "the kiss" whether they even liked the Bachelorette or not. It was just a "guy" thing, and kissing the girl was kind of the goal. Ain't happening this season with arguably the "hottest" Bachelorette yet, so I wonder how Emily was feeling about that, knowing from her predecessors how different it was for them, and if it was shaking her confidence any that the guys weren't falling all over themselves to kiss her.

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Post by clueless Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:52 pm

I got the impression this season was going to be "different" somehow in that Emily is a single mom, etc., maybe no overnights in the fantasy suites, and that the story the producers would spin would be more of the "old fashioned love story".....so it would stand to reason (if that is the case) that you would have the guy that is taking it slow, not macking on the girl straight out of the gate, shy looks and frustration, to accomplish that.. jmo/who knows.

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Post by FLChica Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:09 pm

clueless wrote:I got the impression this season was going to be "different" somehow in that Emily is a single mom, etc., maybe no overnights in the fantasy suites, and that the story the producers would spin would be more of the "old fashioned love story".....so it would stand to reason (if that is the case) that you would have the guy that is taking it slow, not macking on the girl straight out of the gate, shy looks and frustration, to accomplish that.. jmo/who knows.

Agreed. The guys would have to be completely clueless if they failed to realize the "rules of engagement" had changed this season. They started filming in Charlotte so she could live at home with her daughter for cryin' out loud! Dates were with the Muppets, playing with kids at a park and at an amusement park. The guys are respectful of Emily and the fact that she is a mother and woman of faith. They also saw how she behaved on Brad's season; reserved and wary to say the least.

We have several dads and older guys this time around that are helping to set the tone that it isn't a frat party plus constant reminders from CH as well. The guys are clearly appreciative of Emily's beauty and treat her accordingly. :Smiley:
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Post by Love_Me Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:55 pm

So why the sudden influx of negative contestants?

Entertainment Weekly’s executive editor Kristen Baldwin said that although the show has a history of inserting one stereotypical villain per season, the producers might not have necessarily known that these men would have these tendencies.

But although this season’s trifecta of bad behaving dudes might not have been detected until after “The Bachelorette” started to tape, it’s not to say that the producers didn’t take advantage of the opportunity when it came about.

“When you’re dealing with a class of people who are attention-seeking, it is much more likely that they will have done something ridiculous and provocative in their pasts,” she said.

After all, as Baldwin points out, it’s the job of the producers to highlight the bad behavior—they’re making a television show after all.

Moreover, ABC’s ratings for Monday evenings have been excellent, as a result of the drama, which casts doubt on the notion that “Bachelorette” producers had no role in stirring up trouble by casting these men.

Still, as Baldwin points out, “nobody put a gun to [the contestants heads]” to make them act poorly. And it can’t all be blamed on the idea that producers edited them to make them look a certain way.

“I wouldn’t give too much credence to people that say it’s all editing,” she said. “People who go on these shows are not very self-aware. When they see themselves true to life, they get defensive.”

“Editing is the dubious defense of all reality TV,” Baldwin said. “Of course they’ll highlight bad behavior, but there has to be bad behavior. If you give them fodder for the villain edit, you’re doing to get the villain edit.”

An ABC rep did not respond to multiple messages from FoxNews.com

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Post by JBF Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:49 am

Keeping it brief… too tired tonight to get all detailed, but you all will have plenty to add.

A few editing odds and ends… Episode #5

With the primary focus on the promos extending to finale time (it appears), there was a little less startling stuff than past episodes.

At least now we know why both Sean and Jef’s solo dates were this week. Emily tells us she takes things “slow”. She contrasts with previous Bachelorettes.

Curiously, this episode resembled Ashley’s episode #3 in its structure…

1.) Comedy roast with a live audience.
2.) William collapses.
3.) Ashley breaks down. One Ryan kisses her though and gets the group rose.
4.) Bentley leaves.
5.) JP says he wants to make sure she’s OK and restores her on his date.
6.) Ashley cancels cocktail

1.) Shakespeare with a live audience.
2.) Arie struggles and Kalon is twice dubbed “intense”
3.) Emily breaks down after Doug reports Kalon’s “baggage” comment.
4.) Kalon leaves.
5.) Jef says he wants to make sure she’s OK and restores her on his date.
6.) Emily uses cocktail to grill the guys. One Ryan kisses her.

Different setup than Jillian/Ed and Ali/Roberto: they had “rush” skyline dates. Those same episodes (both #3 in this case) also involved a group date with a movie/video shoot. The “rush” that Ashley/JP and Emily/Jef had is more psychological than physical “testing”, getting the lead to discuss some serious “issues” with her frontrunner.

Little homage to Trista’s season:

Jef’s dinner is high up in an “egg” (echoing Travis’ egg … LOL!) and resembling the needle restaurant where Ryan and Trista had their Fantasy Date dinner (Seattle… the hometown of Doug).

Best quotes, not that they meant much to the story…

Doug: I want to be the best damn woman I can be
(Humorously John Wolf enjoyed being kissed on the cheek by him. Playing the more manly role, Doug rolls ups his sleeves before confronting Kalon as if we will get The Fight Club.)

Ryan: In my experience, when a girl tells you you’re trouble and she smiles when she says it, I think it sometimes means she wants to get into trouble.
(Like Trista’s Russ and Chris Lambton, he does the bracelet “thing”.)

Two by twos…

Big Ben clock seen several times, including Jef’s kissing scene. Another clock is seen at the top of the stairs when Emily confronts Arie pre-rose ceremony.
Two shots of London Bridge at night during Sean and Jef’s dates.
Photographs taken in front of Buckingham Palace with little Ricki and Sean. We get the rainbow and light beam on Sean’s kissing photo.
There were other “twos”, but I am tired tonight to investigate them all.

No clue about this stuff… may or may not be important

Sean is a “prisoner of love” on his date. Like Arie, Sean gets the wod “hot”. That is not an omen though since Ali’s Roberto was often dubbed “hot” to his face and he made final one.

During the Shakespeare date, the camera panned on the same key people more than once. Anybody Emily knows?

Some of Emily’s PIs show her tanned and with no cold. She talks about the Shakespeare date as if it is just starting, though. She speaks well of Travis in these scenes, but says Arie is stressed out. My feeling here is that she is discussing a future event with Arie, not Romeo & Juliet.

Odd body language scene: Emily brushes Doug away when he tries comforting her. He is definitely no longer in the running despite being the one who reported Kalon to her.

Lots of repeating music, much canned from past seasons with little creativity. The melody we hear at the start of Ashley’s date with JP, while mentioning Bentley, in her episode #3 is heard when Emily wanders about fussing over Kalon. Obviously the editors were trying hard to match up Kalon with Bentley here… with mixed results. As usual, JP’s Fantasy Date music gets played again, this time for Jef’s date. In Ben’s season, Lindzi got that score I think… so we can’t exactly use that as a “final one” indication.

Supposedly Sean is the one shown with the dolphin in the promo? Or is it Jef? Apparently both swim on their fantasy dates. In any case, this isn’t the first season with a dolphin swim. Trista and Ryan had it as well.
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Post by Archer23 Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:55 am

JBF wrote:Supposedly Sean is the one shown with the dolphin in the promo? Or is it Jef? Apparently both swim on their fantasy dates. In any case, this isn’t the first season with a dolphin swim. Trista and Ryan had it as well.
It's Arie.
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Post by JBF Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:48 am

Oh my... the screencap threads will be busy on that one! We will dub him "Dolphin Boy".
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Post by Fleurdesel Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:05 am

Merci JBF! Always interesting!
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Post by nd4reality Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:22 pm

Archer23 wrote:
JBF wrote:Supposedly Sean is the one shown with the dolphin in the promo? Or is it Jef? Apparently both swim on their fantasy dates. In any case, this isn’t the first season with a dolphin swim. Trista and Ryan had it as well.
It's Arie.

Archer - doesn't the guy look too blonde and too built to be Arie ? This is probably the wrong thead to discuss this, perhaps I'll meet you there.


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Post by Archer23 Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:26 pm

nd4reality wrote:
Archer23 wrote:
JBF wrote:Supposedly Sean is the one shown with the dolphin in the promo? Or is it Jef? Apparently both swim on their fantasy dates. In any case, this isn’t the first season with a dolphin swim. Trista and Ryan had it as well.
It's Arie.

Archer - doesn't the guy look too blonde and too built to be Arie ? This is probably the wrong thead to discuss this, perhaps I'll meet you there.
I definitely thought it was Sean at first, until I realized Emily's bikini in the dolphin pic is different from the one she's wearing on the beach with Sean, and seems to match the one she's wearing when she's kissing Arie on the boat. Unless maybe it's pictures of a FD and a LCD? :greenman:

All this confusion could have been avoided if Sean and Arie didn't decide to be twinsies with their swim trunks. rotfl
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