Re: The Bachelorette 8 - Emily Maynard - Edit Thread - Discussion

by Shelby Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:59 pm

luluvega wrote:I think there has been enough to put Jef in the F4 if I look at how the guys are being portrayed. Looking at the edit, the remaining guys who have been shown to have any chance and/ or have had significant screen time are Sean, Jef, Chris, Arie, Kalon, Ryan, and Doug. The rest of the guys are just filler at this point. It's too late to introduce one of them as a legitimate contender, because there hasn't been enough in episodes 1-3 to justify them making it to the later rounds. For the seven I named, I see it this way:

Ryan is out. His edit is making him look too arrogant and obnoxious.

Doug is out. The edit is showing signs that he is too intense and might have a temper.

Kalon is out. The producers are making it obvious that he's just there for entertainment value.

So that leaves Arie, Jef, Sean, and Chris who are currently being edited to look better than the three mentioned above and have piqued Emily's interest. An F4 that works.

If I take it further, I can knock out Chris easily to get the F3 that has been named via spoilers. He is the only one of the F4 who has been shown to have a "flaw" that makes Emily wary (his age). Notice that Arie's "flaw" (being a race car driver and possibly reminding her of RH) is something that we saw Emily accept with no hesitation. On top of that, Chris seems a little too overeager and overawed by the whole thing. Like he's not seeing the "reality."

After that, you have Sean, Jef, and Arie, who could all legitimately work as F1 going by what we have seen to date. Future episodes will just build on that.

by yumyum1 Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:59 pm

pander3575 wrote:Could this season be edited more in line with Trista's?

^ I see many similarities between Trista's and Emily's seasons, and I watched Trista's when it first aired many moons ago. Charlie was the Arie of that season, and soooo many people were oh so sure that he was going to be the F1. And look out how that turned out. That was another "slow and steady sweet shy guy wins the race" editing/story arc.

by ironcat Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:23 pm

just logic wrote:I asked this question in the F1 speculation but realized this was the place for it because it is in reference to the edit and could answer the reason of why it seems so strange this year.

In past seasons, HAS THE LEAD EVER SENT A PERSON HOME DURING A 1:1 IN THE 2nd EPISODE?

If the answer is yes, then I have no idea why the edit seems strange. If the answer is no, then it could explain the weird edit as it would entirely change tptb's story boards. Just talked it over with my son who is in television editing and according to him the story boards are very important to the progression of the story. If it changes early for some reason then the editors who thought they had the show all planned out and ready for the film to begin editing have to totally rethink the whole thing.

If the answer is no, then it opens up all kinds of possibilities.

The answer is NO. This is the first time that the lead has sent someone home on an episode 2 1 on 1 date.

I agree that the order the dates were given out this season is wonky. And as a result, it's the first season (of the longer seasons) where not only did two of the F4 only get one solo date, but the F2 apparently only got one solo date. Yeah, definitely wonky.

by ryvetted Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:28 pm

ironcat wrote:
just logic wrote:I asked this question in the F1 speculation but realized this was the place for it because it is in reference to the edit and could answer the reason of why it seems so strange this year.

In past seasons, HAS THE LEAD EVER SENT A PERSON HOME DURING A 1:1 IN THE 2nd EPISODE?

If the answer is yes, then I have no idea why the edit seems strange. If the answer is no, then it could explain the weird edit as it would entirely change tptb's story boards. Just talked it over with my son who is in television editing and according to him the story boards are very important to the progression of the story. If it changes early for some reason then the editors who thought they had the show all planned out and ready for the film to begin editing have to totally rethink the whole thing.

If the answer is no, then it opens up all kinds of possibilities.

The answer is NO. This is the first time that the lead has sent someone home on an episode 2 1 on 1 date.

I agree that the order the dates were given out this season is wonky. And as a result, it's the first season (of the longer seasons) where not only did two of the F4 only get one solo date, but the F2 apparently only got one solo date. Yeah, definitely wonky.

Doesn't Jef get 2 solo dates before hometowns? (London and Prague)

by nd4reality Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:33 pm

ryvetted wrote:
ironcat wrote:
just logic wrote:I asked this question in the F1 speculation but realized this was the place for it because it is in reference to the edit and could answer the reason of why it seems so strange this year.

In past seasons, HAS THE LEAD EVER SENT A PERSON HOME DURING A 1:1 IN THE 2nd EPISODE?

If the answer is yes, then I have no idea why the edit seems strange. If the answer is no, then it could explain the weird edit as it would entirely change tptb's story boards. Just talked it over with my son who is in television editing and according to him the story boards are very important to the progression of the story. If it changes early for some reason then the editors who thought they had the show all planned out and ready for the film to begin editing have to totally rethink the whole thing.

If the answer is no, then it opens up all kinds of possibilities.

The answer is NO. This is the first time that the lead has sent someone home on an episode 2 1 on 1 date.

I agree that the order the dates were given out this season is wonky. And as a result, it's the first season (of the longer seasons) where not only did two of the F4 only get one solo date, but the F2 apparently only got one solo date. Yeah, definitely wonky.

Doesn't Jef get 2 solo dates before hometowns? (London and Prague)

Prague has not been confirmed yet. RS says yes though.

by Hotmomma Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:35 pm

ryvetted wrote:
ironcat wrote:
just logic wrote:I asked this question in the F1 speculation but realized this was the place for it because it is in reference to the edit and could answer the reason of why it seems so strange this year.In past seasons, HAS THE LEAD EVER SENT A PERSON HOME DURING A 1:1 IN THE 2nd EPISODE? If the answer is yes, then I have no idea why the edit seems strange. If the answer is no, then it could explain the weird edit as it would entirely change tptb's story boards. Just talked it over with my son who is in television editing and according to him the story boards are very important to the progression of the story. If it changes early for some reason then the editors who thought they had the show all planned out and ready for the film to begin editing have to totally rethink the whole thing.
If the answer is no, then it opens up all kinds of possibilities.
The answer is NO. This is the first time that the lead has sent someone home on an episode 2 1 on 1 date.
I agree that the order the dates were given out this season is wonky. And as a result, it's the first season (of the longer seasons) where not only did two of the F4 only get one solo date, but the F2 apparently only got one solo date. Yeah, definitely wonky.
Doesn't Jef get 2 solo dates before hometowns? (London and Prague)

Yes I believe so.
Does Sean only get one 1/1 date?

by Pattycake92 Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:38 pm

Prague is confirmed for Jef. They go to a library.

by nutty1 Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:50 pm

Jef gets an etiquette lesson at the library!

by Pattycake92 Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:54 pm

No he etiquette lesson is in London. Episode 5. They end with dinner along side the Thames. Prague date is episode 7 and they go to Library and roll around giggling

by nutty1 Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:56 pm

Pattycake92 wrote:No he etiquette lesson is in London. Episode 5. They end with dinner along side the Thames. Prague date is episode 7 and they go to Library and roll around

Oh that 's right. I did a 35 mile bike ride today & I am practically falling asleep at the computer!
But oh no, I didn't forget about the rolling around!!!! :giggle:

by albean99 Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:56 pm

It's hard to compare Trista season with any of the more recent ones. Her's was only about 7 episodes or so. Nobody got more than one solo date. That was also the only time the chemistry guy didn't get the girl or in Jerry's case was there until the end. Even if you look past that it's hard to compare because the chemistry guy goes at f3 so there's no shock ending like with Trista's. I also think that was more because people thought she wouldn't be willing to move to Vail & Charlie was in California.

by oless4 Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:59 pm

luluvega wrote:I think there has been enough to put Jef in the F4 if I look at how the guys are being portrayed. Looking at the edit, the remaining guys who have been shown to have any chance and/ or have had significant screen time are Sean, Jef, Chris, Arie, Kalon, Ryan, and Doug. The rest of the guys are just filler at this point. It's too late to introduce one of them as a legitimate contender, because there hasn't been enough in episodes 1-3 to justify them making it to the later rounds. For the seven I named, I see it this way:

Ryan is out. His edit is making him look too arrogant and obnoxious.

Doug is out. The edit is showing signs that he is too intense and might have a temper.

Kalon is out. The producers are making it obvious that he's just there for entertainment value.

So that leaves Arie, Jef, Sean, and Chris who are currently being edited to look better than the three mentioned above and have piqued Emily's interest. An F4 that works.

If I take it further, I can knock out Chris easily to get the F3 that has been named via spoilers. He is the only one of the F4 who has been shown to have a "flaw" that makes Emily wary (his age). Notice that Arie's "flaw" (being a race car driver and possibly reminding her of RH) is something that we saw Emily accept with no hesitation. On top of that, Chris seems a little too overeager and overawed by the whole thing. Like he's not seeing the "reality."

After that, you have Sean, Jef, and Arie, who could all legitimately work as F1 going by what we have seen to date. Future episodes will just build on that.

Nice posting! I agree! Smiley

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