Re: Bachelorette 7 General Discussion - Thread #1

[Guest]

Call me crazy but I got to thinking..........Brad was on during his first season, started setting patterns that every other season has followed to some extent up until his last season.........Could Ashley's season be the set up for all other patterns.........so I am thinking that

1) Ashley's season is starting out 2 season's earlier.......meaning.......4th epi for Ali's season was New York with the Lion King.............Ashley's season is having similiar epi in #2

2) and the patterns for all the dates.........ie, caving, waterfalls, elephant trekking, saffari's, ziplines, etc are happening about 2 epi's earlier than they were in the original season......

So thus are re-vamping my research as we are still missing 1-3 dates each in Phuket, Chiang Mai, Hong Kong and Taiwan..........trying to find the missing links.

What do you think of those thoughts...........take a look at my charts and compare them to what we know from RS for this season, ie, the dates happening in Las Vegas in epi 2 versus the "out of town" dates beginning in epi 4 as they did for Jillian, Ali, Brad, and Jake.

Make it easy for me! Do you think her season for closely resembles Ali's or Brad's in the form it appears to be taking from what you can tell. That is what I am trying to picture in my mind.

IMO, Jakes season was there just to fill in time as I don't think he was ever serious about this and the crew tried to do it as cheap as possible just to get a filler season in........therefore, I believe that Ashley's season is going to be a combination of Jillians, Brads and Ali's...........

Brad had a vegas show, therefore so does Ashley..........but with Ashley's it is more like Ali's being a group date and thus I feel that is why Ben F actually "wins" quality time with Ashley, which would tie into what RS was hinting about that Ben F's date in Chiang Mai with the temple/market might not actually be his first 1 on 1......being that he and Ashley already spent quality 1 on 1 time in Vegas.

Jillian's season had the 2 on 1 early in the season........epi 4, but that game is switched being that the 2 on 1 might be later in the season as per babymama hinted to.........but the concept of Jill's date about the tram might be the same........a work in progress right now.

Again, taking concepts from Brad's Jill's and Ali's seasons as the makeup of this season for Ashley as again, Jake's season should be ignored to a point as it was just a filler season IMO

[black_tears]

I wish the show started tomorrow, and we didn't have to wait another whole week...

Agreed! I'm ready for it now...

[Admin]

I wish the show started tomorrow, and we didn't have to wait another whole week...

Agreed! I'm ready for it now...

Well at least I hope RS reveals what he has sometime this week.

[Beeleever]

I wish the show started tomorrow, and we didn't have to wait another whole week...

Agreed! I'm ready for it now...

Well at least I hope RS reveals what he has sometime this week.

There is no doubt he will share it this week so he can spoil it for TPTB before the first episode airs. He may not, however, share until the end of the week and I'd prefer it at the beginning!

[Love_Me]

I am impatient also. I want to be spoiled with everything right now even if it turns out to be wrong.

[Bloomers]

Call me crazy but I got to thinking..........Brad was on during his first season, started setting patterns that every other season has followed to some extent up until his last season.........Could Ashley's season be the set up for all other patterns.........so I am thinking that

1) Ashley's season is starting out 2 season's earlier.......meaning.......4th epi for Ali's season was New York with the Lion King.............Ashley's season is having similiar epi in #2

2) and the patterns for all the dates.........ie, caving, waterfalls, elephant trekking, saffari's, ziplines, etc are happening about 2 epi's earlier than they were in the original season......

So thus are re-vamping my research as we are still missing 1-3 dates each in Phuket, Chiang Mai, Hong Kong and Taiwan..........trying to find the missing links.

What do you think of those thoughts...........take a look at my charts and compare them to what we know from RS for this season, ie, the dates happening in Las Vegas in epi 2 versus the "out of town" dates beginning in epi 4 as they did for Jillian, Ali, Brad, and Jake.

Make it easy for me! Do you think her season for closely resembles Ali's or Brad's in the form it appears to be taking from what you can tell. That is what I am trying to picture in my mind.

IMO, Jakes season was there just to fill in time as I don't think he was ever serious about this and the crew tried to do it as cheap as possible just to get a filler season in........therefore, I believe that Ashley's season is going to be a combination of Jillians, Brads and Ali's...........

Brad had a vegas show, therefore so does Ashley..........but with Ashley's it is more like Ali's being a group date and thus I feel that is why Ben F actually "wins" quality time with Ashley, which would tie into what RS was hinting about that Ben F's date in Chiang Mai with the temple/market might not actually be his first 1 on 1......being that he and Ashley already spent quality 1 on 1 time in Vegas.

Jillian's season had the 2 on 1 early in the season........epi 4, but that game is switched being that the 2 on 1 might be later in the season as per babymama hinted to.........but the concept of Jill's date about the tram might be the same........a work in progress right now.

Again, taking concepts from Brad's Jill's and Ali's seasons as the makeup of this season for Ashley as again, Jake's season should be ignored to a point as it was just a filler season IMO

I am still confused, but here is what is swirling in my mind. What brings back memories is the picture of the 2-1 guys (2 sets) on a treasure hunt or something - doesn't matter - it is too late to be the 2-1 where someone or both get ditched.

Now, Ali had a 2-1 in the 6th episode with F3 Frank and F6 Tye. If I remember correctly, there were 3 one-on-ones? Roberto, Chris, and Kirk.

Now, Frank had gotten his repeating date before in Ep. 5.

F1 Roberto won the contest and quality time - his stint in the Lion King.

Is the tie in possibly Ben ( does he also get Ep 3 date) that wins quality time (this time) if front of the temple (Ep 5), but he has a 1-1 date in Ep. 6 which is why we don't see him in the Ep 6 2-1s.

Is Ben the equivalent of Roberto? Is Ben the equivalent of Kirk? Just speculating......

[Guest]

Call me crazy but I got to thinking..........Brad was on during his first season, started setting patterns that every other season has followed to some extent up until his last season.........Could Ashley's season be the set up for all other patterns.........so I am thinking that

1) Ashley's season is starting out 2 season's earlier.......meaning.......4th epi for Ali's season was New York with the Lion King.............Ashley's season is having similiar epi in #2

2) and the patterns for all the dates.........ie, caving, waterfalls, elephant trekking, saffari's, ziplines, etc are happening about 2 epi's earlier than they were in the original season......

So thus are re-vamping my research as we are still missing 1-3 dates each in Phuket, Chiang Mai, Hong Kong and Taiwan..........trying to find the missing links.

What do you think of those thoughts...........take a look at my charts and compare them to what we know from RS for this season, ie, the dates happening in Las Vegas in epi 2 versus the "out of town" dates beginning in epi 4 as they did for Jillian, Ali, Brad, and Jake.

Make it easy for me! Do you think her season for closely resembles Ali's or Brad's in the form it appears to be taking from what you can tell. That is what I am trying to picture in my mind.

IMO, Jakes season was there just to fill in time as I don't think he was ever serious about this and the crew tried to do it as cheap as possible just to get a filler season in........therefore, I believe that Ashley's season is going to be a combination of Jillians, Brads and Ali's...........

Brad had a vegas show, therefore so does Ashley..........but with Ashley's it is more like Ali's being a group date and thus I feel that is why Ben F actually "wins" quality time with Ashley, which would tie into what RS was hinting about that Ben F's date in Chiang Mai with the temple/market might not actually be his first 1 on 1......being that he and Ashley already spent quality 1 on 1 time in Vegas.

Jillian's season had the 2 on 1 early in the season........epi 4, but that game is switched being that the 2 on 1 might be later in the season as per babymama hinted to.........but the concept of Jill's date about the tram might be the same........a work in progress right now.

Again, taking concepts from Brad's Jill's and Ali's seasons as the makeup of this season for Ashley as again, Jake's season should be ignored to a point as it was just a filler season IMO

I am still confused, but here is what is swirling in my mind. What brings back memories is the picture of the 2-1 guys (2 sets) on a treasure hunt or something - doesn't matter - it is too late to be the 2-1 where someone or both get ditched.

Now, Ali had a 2-1 in the 6th episode with F3 Frank and F6 Tye. If I remember correctly, there were 3 one-on-ones? Roberto, Chris, and Kirk.

Now, Frank had gotten his repeating date before in Ep. 5.

F1 Roberto won the contest and quality time - his stint in the Lion King.

Is the tie in possibly Ben ( does he also get Ep 3 date) that wins quality time (this time) if front of the temple (Ep 5), but he has a 1-1 date in Ep. 6 which is why we don't see him in the Ep 6 2-1s.

Is Ben the equivalent of Roberto? Is Ben the equivalent of Kirk? Just speculating......

IMO, Ben doesn't get an epi 3 date.........too much time dedicated to him considering quality time in epi 2, then a 1 on 1 date in epi 5...........in front of the temple............a single date of them at the temple, then the night market on Chang Khalan Road between the temple and the hotel.........

don't know what you mean about the 1 on 1 date in epi 6??

In Hong Kong in epi 6.........maybe a 2 on 1 which would give a group date of 4, a 2 on 1, then 2......1 on 1 dates.............

[Bloomers]

Call me crazy but I got to thinking..........Brad was on during his first season, started setting patterns that every other season has followed to some extent up until his last season.........Could Ashley's season be the set up for all other patterns.........so I am thinking that

1) Ashley's season is starting out 2 season's earlier.......meaning.......4th epi for Ali's season was New York with the Lion King.............Ashley's season is having similiar epi in #2

2) and the patterns for all the dates.........ie, caving, waterfalls, elephant trekking, saffari's, ziplines, etc are happening about 2 epi's earlier than they were in the original season......

So thus are re-vamping my research as we are still missing 1-3 dates each in Phuket, Chiang Mai, Hong Kong and Taiwan..........trying to find the missing links.

What do you think of those thoughts...........take a look at my charts and compare them to what we know from RS for this season, ie, the dates happening in Las Vegas in epi 2 versus the "out of town" dates beginning in epi 4 as they did for Jillian, Ali, Brad, and Jake.

Make it easy for me! Do you think her season for closely resembles Ali's or Brad's in the form it appears to be taking from what you can tell. That is what I am trying to picture in my mind.

IMO, Jakes season was there just to fill in time as I don't think he was ever serious about this and the crew tried to do it as cheap as possible just to get a filler season in........therefore, I believe that Ashley's season is going to be a combination of Jillians, Brads and Ali's...........

Brad had a vegas show, therefore so does Ashley..........but with Ashley's it is more like Ali's being a group date and thus I feel that is why Ben F actually "wins" quality time with Ashley, which would tie into what RS was hinting about that Ben F's date in Chiang Mai with the temple/market might not actually be his first 1 on 1......being that he and Ashley already spent quality 1 on 1 time in Vegas.

Jillian's season had the 2 on 1 early in the season........epi 4, but that game is switched being that the 2 on 1 might be later in the season as per babymama hinted to.........but the concept of Jill's date about the tram might be the same........a work in progress right now.

Again, taking concepts from Brad's Jill's and Ali's seasons as the makeup of this season for Ashley as again, Jake's season should be ignored to a point as it was just a filler season IMO

I am still confused, but here is what is swirling in my mind. What brings back memories is the picture of the 2-1 guys (2 sets) on a treasure hunt or something - doesn't matter - it is too late to be the 2-1 where someone or both get ditched.

Now, Ali had a 2-1 in the 6th episode with F3 Frank and F6 Tye. If I remember correctly, there were 3 one-on-ones? Roberto, Chris, and Kirk.

Now, Frank had gotten his repeating date before in Ep. 5.

F1 Roberto won the contest and quality time - his stint in the Lion King.

Is the tie in possibly Ben ( does he also get Ep 3 date) that wins quality time (this time) if front of the temple (Ep 5), but he has a 1-1 date in Ep. 6 which is why we don't see him in the Ep 6 2-1s.

Is Ben the equivalent of Roberto? Is Ben the equivalent of Kirk? Just speculating......

IMO, Ben doesn't get an epi 3 date.........too much time dedicated to him considering quality time in epi 2, then a 1 on 1 date in epi 5...........in front of the temple............a single date of them at the temple, then the night market on Chang Khalan Road between the temple and the hotel.........

don't know what you mean about the 1 on 1 date in epi 6??

In Hong Kong in epi 6.........maybe a 2 on 1 which would give a group date of 4, a 2 on 1, then 2......1 on 1 dates.............

Ok, just a thought. I don't know enough to go into action yet! :geek:

[Guest]

Call me crazy but I got to thinking..........Brad was on during his first season, started setting patterns that every other season has followed to some extent up until his last season.........Could Ashley's season be the set up for all other patterns.........so I am thinking that

1) Ashley's season is starting out 2 season's earlier.......meaning.......4th epi for Ali's season was New York with the Lion King.............Ashley's season is having similiar epi in #2

2) and the patterns for all the dates.........ie, caving, waterfalls, elephant trekking, saffari's, ziplines, etc are happening about 2 epi's earlier than they were in the original season......

So thus are re-vamping my research as we are still missing 1-3 dates each in Phuket, Chiang Mai, Hong Kong and Taiwan..........trying to find the missing links.

What do you think of those thoughts...........take a look at my charts and compare them to what we know from RS for this season, ie, the dates happening in Las Vegas in epi 2 versus the "out of town" dates beginning in epi 4 as they did for Jillian, Ali, Brad, and Jake.

Make it easy for me! Do you think her season for closely resembles Ali's or Brad's in the form it appears to be taking from what you can tell. That is what I am trying to picture in my mind.

IMO, Jakes season was there just to fill in time as I don't think he was ever serious about this and the crew tried to do it as cheap as possible just to get a filler season in........therefore, I believe that Ashley's season is going to be a combination of Jillians, Brads and Ali's...........

Brad had a vegas show, therefore so does Ashley..........but with Ashley's it is more like Ali's being a group date and thus I feel that is why Ben F actually "wins" quality time with Ashley, which would tie into what RS was hinting about that Ben F's date in Chiang Mai with the temple/market might not actually be his first 1 on 1......being that he and Ashley already spent quality 1 on 1 time in Vegas.

Jillian's season had the 2 on 1 early in the season........epi 4, but that game is switched being that the 2 on 1 might be later in the season as per babymama hinted to.........but the concept of Jill's date about the tram might be the same........a work in progress right now.

Again, taking concepts from Brad's Jill's and Ali's seasons as the makeup of this season for Ashley as again, Jake's season should be ignored to a point as it was just a filler season IMO

I am still confused, but here is what is swirling in my mind. What brings back memories is the picture of the 2-1 guys (2 sets) on a treasure hunt or something - doesn't matter - it is too late to be the 2-1 where someone or both get ditched.

Now, Ali had a 2-1 in the 6th episode with F3 Frank and F6 Tye. If I remember correctly, there were 3 one-on-ones? Roberto, Chris, and Kirk.

Now, Frank had gotten his repeating date before in Ep. 5.

F1 Roberto won the contest and quality time - his stint in the Lion King.

Is the tie in possibly Ben ( does he also get Ep 3 date) that wins quality time (this time) if front of the temple (Ep 5), but he has a 1-1 date in Ep. 6 which is why we don't see him in the Ep 6 2-1s.

Is Ben the equivalent of Roberto? Is Ben the equivalent of Kirk? Just speculating......

IMO, Ben doesn't get an epi 3 date.........too much time dedicated to him considering quality time in epi 2, then a 1 on 1 date in epi 5...........in front of the temple............a single date of them at the temple, then the night market on Chang Khalan Road between the temple and the hotel.........

don't know what you mean about the 1 on 1 date in epi 6??

In Hong Kong in epi 6.........maybe a 2 on 1 which would give a group date of 4, a 2 on 1, then 2......1 on 1 dates.............

Ok, just a thought. I don't know enough to go into action yet! :geek:

Okay..........still working on things........just taking a day away from the Muay Thai camp search to find out the working copy on how the dates can happen........will post when I "think" I may have something that "resembles" making sense..........LOL.

[Bloomers]

Call me crazy but I got to thinking..........Brad was on during his first season, started setting patterns that every other season has followed to some extent up until his last season.........Could Ashley's season be the set up for all other patterns.........so I am thinking that

1) Ashley's season is starting out 2 season's earlier.......meaning.......4th epi for Ali's season was New York with the Lion King.............Ashley's season is having similiar epi in #2

2) and the patterns for all the dates.........ie, caving, waterfalls, elephant trekking, saffari's, ziplines, etc are happening about 2 epi's earlier than they were in the original season......

So thus are re-vamping my research as we are still missing 1-3 dates each in Phuket, Chiang Mai, Hong Kong and Taiwan..........trying to find the missing links.

What do you think of those thoughts...........take a look at my charts and compare them to what we know from RS for this season, ie, the dates happening in Las Vegas in epi 2 versus the "out of town" dates beginning in epi 4 as they did for Jillian, Ali, Brad, and Jake.

Make it easy for me! Do you think her season for closely resembles Ali's or Brad's in the form it appears to be taking from what you can tell. That is what I am trying to picture in my mind.

IMO, Jakes season was there just to fill in time as I don't think he was ever serious about this and the crew tried to do it as cheap as possible just to get a filler season in........therefore, I believe that Ashley's season is going to be a combination of Jillians, Brads and Ali's...........

Brad had a vegas show, therefore so does Ashley..........but with Ashley's it is more like Ali's being a group date and thus I feel that is why Ben F actually "wins" quality time with Ashley, which would tie into what RS was hinting about that Ben F's date in Chiang Mai with the temple/market might not actually be his first 1 on 1......being that he and Ashley already spent quality 1 on 1 time in Vegas.

Jillian's season had the 2 on 1 early in the season........epi 4, but that game is switched being that the 2 on 1 might be later in the season as per babymama hinted to.........but the concept of Jill's date about the tram might be the same........a work in progress right now.

Again, taking concepts from Brad's Jill's and Ali's seasons as the makeup of this season for Ashley as again, Jake's season should be ignored to a point as it was just a filler season IMO

I am still confused, but here is what is swirling in my mind. What brings back memories is the picture of the 2-1 guys (2 sets) on a treasure hunt or something - doesn't matter - it is too late to be the 2-1 where someone or both get ditched.

Now, Ali had a 2-1 in the 6th episode with F3 Frank and F6 Tye. If I remember correctly, there were 3 one-on-ones? Roberto, Chris, and Kirk.

Now, Frank had gotten his repeating date before in Ep. 5.

F1 Roberto won the contest and quality time - his stint in the Lion King.

Is the tie in possibly Ben ( does he also get Ep 3 date) that wins quality time (this time) if front of the temple (Ep 5), but he has a 1-1 date in Ep. 6 which is why we don't see him in the Ep 6 2-1s.

Is Ben the equivalent of Roberto? Is Ben the equivalent of Kirk? Just speculating......

IMO, Ben doesn't get an epi 3 date.........too much time dedicated to him considering quality time in epi 2, then a 1 on 1 date in epi 5...........in front of the temple............a single date of them at the temple, then the night market on Chang Khalan Road between the temple and the hotel.........

don't know what you mean about the 1 on 1 date in epi 6??

In Hong Kong in epi 6.........maybe a 2 on 1 which would give a group date of 4, a 2 on 1, then 2......1 on 1 dates.............

Ok, just a thought. I don't know enough to go into action yet! :geek:

Okay..........still working on things........just taking a day away from the Muay Thai camp search to find out the working copy on how the dates can happen........will post when I "think" I may have something that "resembles" making sense..........LOL.

You are doing some fabulous work! :missclap: However, for me to do what I can do, what I need is to know for sure is the date details. I can't guarantee I will be right, but I can take a better stab at it - an educated guess, as it were - rather than just a shot in the dark.

[Guest]

Call me crazy but I got to thinking..........Brad was on during his first season, started setting patterns that every other season has followed to some extent up until his last season.........Could Ashley's season be the set up for all other patterns.........so I am thinking that

1) Ashley's season is starting out 2 season's earlier.......meaning.......4th epi for Ali's season was New York with the Lion King.............Ashley's season is having similiar epi in #2

2) and the patterns for all the dates.........ie, caving, waterfalls, elephant trekking, saffari's, ziplines, etc are happening about 2 epi's earlier than they were in the original season......

So thus are re-vamping my research as we are still missing 1-3 dates each in Phuket, Chiang Mai, Hong Kong and Taiwan..........trying to find the missing links.

What do you think of those thoughts...........take a look at my charts and compare them to what we know from RS for this season, ie, the dates happening in Las Vegas in epi 2 versus the "out of town" dates beginning in epi 4 as they did for Jillian, Ali, Brad, and Jake.

Make it easy for me! Do you think her season for closely resembles Ali's or Brad's in the form it appears to be taking from what you can tell. That is what I am trying to picture in my mind.

IMO, Jakes season was there just to fill in time as I don't think he was ever serious about this and the crew tried to do it as cheap as possible just to get a filler season in........therefore, I believe that Ashley's season is going to be a combination of Jillians, Brads and Ali's...........

Brad had a vegas show, therefore so does Ashley..........but with Ashley's it is more like Ali's being a group date and thus I feel that is why Ben F actually "wins" quality time with Ashley, which would tie into what RS was hinting about that Ben F's date in Chiang Mai with the temple/market might not actually be his first 1 on 1......being that he and Ashley already spent quality 1 on 1 time in Vegas.

Jillian's season had the 2 on 1 early in the season........epi 4, but that game is switched being that the 2 on 1 might be later in the season as per babymama hinted to.........but the concept of Jill's date about the tram might be the same........a work in progress right now.

Again, taking concepts from Brad's Jill's and Ali's seasons as the makeup of this season for Ashley as again, Jake's season should be ignored to a point as it was just a filler season IMO

I am still confused, but here is what is swirling in my mind. What brings back memories is the picture of the 2-1 guys (2 sets) on a treasure hunt or something - doesn't matter - it is too late to be the 2-1 where someone or both get ditched.

Now, Ali had a 2-1 in the 6th episode with F3 Frank and F6 Tye. If I remember correctly, there were 3 one-on-ones? Roberto, Chris, and Kirk.

Now, Frank had gotten his repeating date before in Ep. 5.

F1 Roberto won the contest and quality time - his stint in the Lion King.

Is the tie in possibly Ben ( does he also get Ep 3 date) that wins quality time (this time) if front of the temple (Ep 5), but he has a 1-1 date in Ep. 6 which is why we don't see him in the Ep 6 2-1s.

Is Ben the equivalent of Roberto? Is Ben the equivalent of Kirk? Just speculating......

IMO, Ben doesn't get an epi 3 date.........too much time dedicated to him considering quality time in epi 2, then a 1 on 1 date in epi 5...........in front of the temple............a single date of them at the temple, then the night market on Chang Khalan Road between the temple and the hotel.........

don't know what you mean about the 1 on 1 date in epi 6??

In Hong Kong in epi 6.........maybe a 2 on 1 which would give a group date of 4, a 2 on 1, then 2......1 on 1 dates.............

Ok, just a thought. I don't know enough to go into action yet! :geek:

Okay..........still working on things........just taking a day away from the Muay Thai camp search to find out the working copy on how the dates can happen........will post when I "think" I may have something that "resembles" making sense..........LOL.

You are doing some fabulous work! :missclap: However, for me to do what I can do, what I need is to know for sure is the date details. I can't guarantee I will be right, but I can take a better stab at it - an educated guess, as it were - rather than just a shot in the dark.

LOL, well hopefully later today, the cobwebs will leave me alone and I can post something for everyone to work on............

[Love_Me]

Season 7, Episode 2
Episode Synopsis: The 18 opening-night survivors move into the mansion. One guy snares Ashley's first kiss, on a Las Vegas one-on-one date that includes wedding preparations. Another attends a private Colbie Caillat performance, also in Vegas. And 12 others dance with the hip-hop crew Jabbawockeez during a group date. And before three contenders are sent home, the masked man doffs his mask. Original Air Date: May 30, 2011

So according to this episode description Jeff (the mask) makes it through the M & G with a rose. Seven are eliminated in episode 1 and 3 are sent home in episode 2.

I guess the kiss with Mickey at the M & G didn't count.

One guy snares Ashley's first kiss, on a Las Vegas one-on-one date that includes wedding preparations

This would be Will on a 1-1 date

Another attends a private Colbie Caillat performance, also in Vegas

This is Mickey on his first 1-1 date

And 12 others dance with the hip-hop crew Jabbawockeez during a group date.

4 guys don't get to go on any dates in episode 2

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