Re: F1, F2, F3, and F4 Speculation - Thread #1

[emusha]

She doesn't have to work to win JP, he's already told her he's not going anywhere -- he's all in. Same thing Chantal told Brad about halfway through the season.

right EXACTLY and we know how that turned out ...I just hope Ashley is mature enough to understand which guy is her best fit and she would have the best relationship with not just go chasing after the less attainable one like she's doing with bentley... many people fall in that trap and that is why 'the dating GAME' works...

if she does choose ben F I hope he is eventually as into her as she would be of him.
One pro for JP with regards to his openness is - the more open and vulnerable he is the better he's able to build real intimacy with her and allow HER to be more vulnerable with him - and that's one of the things she said she wants her man to give her

[allykat]

Something I noticed is that her private time with JP always seems more private and intimate. During their SQT on group dates and rose ceremonies they tend to go somewhere different, away from prying eyes. All the other guys are shown on the same basic couch set up, but with JP she’s on a beach or at the base of some grand stair case. Since their 1-1, their quality time is usually shown away from everyone else, in their own little world. Maybe that's his doing and not her preference, but it stands out to me.

And in her PI when she says “I really like JP and want him to know that I want him here”, it kind of reminded me of Brad and Emily when he did the RC picnic and said he wanted her to know he was thinking of her. BTW - did anyone notice that she was wearing her dress from the group date when she said that?

Then there is the fact that he’s the only one she tells about Bentley privately.

They are only showing the chemistry and the physical with JP, and are showing the flirting and sweetness with Ben, but when you actually compare how special her time is with each it just seems like it’s different with JP. JMO

[chaslom4]

Has Ashley mentioned being worried about how Ben is feeling? The one thing I have noticed is that she seems to always be worried about what JP is feeling. For some reason I seem to remember it being said that the lead is always more worried about what the F1 is feeling and the F2 is always concerned about how the lead is feeling.

[Guest]

Has Ashley mentioned being worried about how Ben is feeling? The one thing I have noticed is that she seems to always be worried about what JP is feeling. For some reason I seem to remember it being said that the lead is always more worried about what the F1 is feeling and the F2 is always concerned about how the lead is feeling.

I remember CH making the comment that Jason was always concerned about what Molly thought about him, Ali was always worried if she was good enough for Roberto, she was always concerned if he was "for real". Brad was always wooing Emily, wondering if he would be good enough for her and her daughter.

[jelle]

She doesn't have to work to win JP, he's already told her he's not going anywhere -- he's all in. Same thing Chantal told Brad about halfway through the season.

The difference is that JP hasnt said or indicated that he loves her. He has only said that he isnt going anywhere. He is not asking her to love him at this stage, only that he is there to support her until she decides where she is going. "I am here for you as long as you need me" is, I think, different than "You already have my heart." JP is certainly smitten, but I dont see him as all out "stick a fork in me - done." I dont see Ashley there yet either.

[chaslom4]

Has Ashley mentioned being worried about how Ben is feeling? The one thing I have noticed is that she seems to always be worried about what JP is feeling. For some reason I seem to remember it being said that the lead is always more worried about what the F1 is feeling and the F2 is always concerned about how the lead is feeling.

I remember CH making the comment that Jason was always concerned about what Molly thought about him, Ali was always worried if she was good enough for Roberto, she was always concerned if he was "for real". Brad was always wooing Emily, wondering if he would be good enough for her and her daughter.

Thank you Max! I thought it was a CH blog during Ali's season that I had read this. The only one I have heard Ashley being concerned over is JP.

[mnmhughes]

Has Ashley mentioned being worried about how Ben is feeling? The one thing I have noticed is that she seems to always be worried about what JP is feeling. For some reason I seem to remember it being said that the lead is always more worried about what the F1 is feeling and the F2 is always concerned about how the lead is feeling.

I remember CH making the comment that Jason was always concerned about what Molly thought about him, Ali was always worried if she was good enough for Roberto, she was always concerned if he was "for real". Brad was always wooing Emily, wondering if he would be good enough for her and her daughter.

Thank you Max! I thought it was a CH blog during Ali's season that I had read this. The only one I have heard Ashley being concerned over is JP.

And then there was CH's interview a few weeks ago where he was defending TPTB's decision not to show Ashley any of Bentley's tapes. He said, "Where would the line stop? What is Ashley wanted to know what JP was saying about her, or Ali wanted to know what Roberto .....err" and then continues rambling on. :giggle:

[chaslom4]

Has Ashley mentioned being worried about how Ben is feeling? The one thing I have noticed is that she seems to always be worried about what JP is feeling. For some reason I seem to remember it being said that the lead is always more worried about what the F1 is feeling and the F2 is always concerned about how the lead is feeling.

I remember CH making the comment that Jason was always concerned about what Molly thought about him, Ali was always worried if she was good enough for Roberto, she was always concerned if he was "for real". Brad was always wooing Emily, wondering if he would be good enough for her and her daughter.

Thank you Max! I thought it was a CH blog during Ali's season that I had read this. The only one I have heard Ashley being concerned over is JP.

And then there was CH's interview a few weeks ago where he was defending TPTB's decision not to show Ashley any of Bentley's tapes. He said, "Where would the line stop? What is Ashley wanted to know what JP was saying about her, or Ali wanted to know what Roberto .....err" and then continues rambling on. :giggle:

That still cracks me up, because in a previous interview, he addressed the same thing, but he said William instead of Roberto

[Guest]

Has Ashley mentioned being worried about how Ben is feeling? The one thing I have noticed is that she seems to always be worried about what JP is feeling. For some reason I seem to remember it being said that the lead is always more worried about what the F1 is feeling and the F2 is always concerned about how the lead is feeling.

I remember CH making the comment that Jason was always concerned about what Molly thought about him, Ali was always worried if she was good enough for Roberto, she was always concerned if he was "for real". Brad was always wooing Emily, wondering if he would be good enough for her and her daughter.

Thank you Max! I thought it was a CH blog during Ali's season that I had read this. The only one I have heard Ashley being concerned over is JP.

I agree that the majority of her concern is with JP. Funny she didn't care if Mickey got the snot kicked out of him at the fight She was also concerned enough in ep 2 at the RC to tell JP to be patient, and hang in there. Not to mention she felt bad about him feeling slighted on his first 1-1 date. I haven't seen her express concern for anyone else like that either.

[Admin]

Has Ashley mentioned being worried about how Ben is feeling? The one thing I have noticed is that she seems to always be worried about what JP is feeling. For some reason I seem to remember it being said that the lead is always more worried about what the F1 is feeling and the F2 is always concerned about how the lead is feeling.

I remember CH making the comment that Jason was always concerned about what Molly thought about him, Ali was always worried if she was good enough for Roberto, she was always concerned if he was "for real". Brad was always wooing Emily, wondering if he would be good enough for her and her daughter.

Thank you Max! I thought it was a CH blog during Ali's season that I had read this. The only one I have heard Ashley being concerned over is JP.

And then there was CH's interview a few weeks ago where he was defending TPTB's decision not to show Ashley any of Bentley's tapes. He said, "Where would the line stop? What is Ashley wanted to know what JP was saying about her, or Ali wanted to know what Roberto .....err" and then continues rambling on. :giggle:

That still cracks me up, because the next interview he did, and addressed the same thing, he changed Roberto's name to William.

Really? I didn't know that. That is funny!!

[sjcaligurl]

Has Ashley mentioned being worried about how Ben is feeling? The one thing I have noticed is that she seems to always be worried about what JP is feeling. For some reason I seem to remember it being said that the lead is always more worried about what the F1 is feeling and the F2 is always concerned about how the lead is feeling.

I noticed that as well and I think I mentioned it someplace else. She said in the last episode that she felt that Ben likes her. I also noticed that they show her asking questions like "Can I help you" when he was talking about harvesting grapes for his wine. Or when they were painting the fans she said "we can put these on our mantel" ... "are you proposing already?" They've both said they feel like they are boyfriend/girlfriend. They are on a quieter, track but he seems like a good F1.

I think she actually likes and is more sexually attracted to JP and he seems to go out of his way to let her know he's interested yet she keeps apologizing and then questioning him. She's afraid of getting in over her head with him. She's not paying attention to her own actions around him. She makes out with him at home and falls asleep cuddled up with him. Then apologizes for a bad date and wants to make it up to him. She was making out with him in the rain then questioning whether he is going to leave. She was basically sitting in his lap in the last episode but then asking if he could see himself with her in everyday life. I think JP did start being standoffish at the orphanage date because he realized he was falling too far too fast. Yet, then she got bummed when he wasn't paying enough attention and started focusing on Ben. I wonder how much of that had to do with her getting scared that he was losing interest. She ends up asking him to take a walk to make sure that they are still okay. Ben gets the rose but JP gets the big love scene in the sand. I really wonder what the other guys thought when they saw that episode? LOL! I can see where she finally believes him, takes the plunge and picks him in the end.

I also noticed that she kinda tries to control the kisses with the guys (except Ryan but he's rather aggressive) by holding their faces. JP is the only one who keeps moving her hands. So, again, I see her being unable to relax and just let him kiss her. I don't think RS is above being wrong again and I think it's going to be JP but if it's not, it's not like no one could have seen it coming with Ben.

[chaslom4]

Has Ashley mentioned being worried about how Ben is feeling? The one thing I have noticed is that she seems to always be worried about what JP is feeling. For some reason I seem to remember it being said that the lead is always more worried about what the F1 is feeling and the F2 is always concerned about how the lead is feeling.

I remember CH making the comment that Jason was always concerned about what Molly thought about him, Ali was always worried if she was good enough for Roberto, she was always concerned if he was "for real". Brad was always wooing Emily, wondering if he would be good enough for her and her daughter.

Thank you Max! I thought it was a CH blog during Ali's season that I had read this. The only one I have heard Ashley being concerned over is JP.

And then there was CH's interview a few weeks ago where he was defending TPTB's decision not to show Ashley any of Bentley's tapes. He said, "Where would the line stop? What is Ashley wanted to know what JP was saying about her, or Ali wanted to know what Roberto .....err" and then continues rambling on. :giggle:

That still cracks me up, because the next interview he did, and addressed the same thing, he changed Roberto's name to William.

Really? I didn't know that. That is funny!!

I edited my post. It was an interview that was done earlier in the season that he said William. The one where he said Roberto was done recently. I think it was Love_Me that said she remembered reading it to. Maybe she can recall which interview it was.

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