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Post by Idlemess Fri May 11, 2012 12:00 am

poohbear wrote:
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Sprite wrote:
nutty1 wrote:I just rewatched the video. She seems very taken with her F3. She looks so comfortable with Arie.
I think someone mentioned this before....Jef got shown both times she mentioned "husband".
And I noticed how they went from Jef catching that little girl in his arms right to Em twirling Ricki in her arms.

Do you think this will be the whole sneak preview shown after the premiere?? I hope not!!

This just seems to be too much Jeff that they are throwing at us in the previews. I don't trust it when they are this obvious in the editing this far in advance. In the words of Tarzan from Survivor..."the games afoot"...something is wonky with all this. :uptonogood Either they will do a straight forward edit of a love story which I find very difficult to beleive or he is a ruse to hide someone else. I know they showed Courtney last season but she was such a mean girl that no one wanted to believe it. If he is a good guy, which he seems to be, there would be no suspense and I just don't buy that they would telegraph all this. Ah well only a few more days...

Actually, I think Arie & Sean were much more obvious. Most "normal" people (certainly not any of us!) wouldn't notice the little things like that....saying husband & showing Jef. I don't think Jef was as prominent as the other F2.

Agreed. :yes: Jef's the most hidden throughout the filming actually. We got no pics of them on their dates at all. And for the preview, I wouldn't have noticed that if someone did not mention that on this board either. It just goes by so fast, people don't notice those things at all

If memory serves me correctly, on Brad's Season15 there were a few times that Chantal was shown when Brad mentioned "wife" Is this a trend only on previews or during the show as well?
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Post by christinemega Fri May 11, 2012 12:31 am

cupcakes wrote:New preview!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q_MAR9gUq8&feature=g-all-u



3 mins long!

thank you cupcakes... I love it... yes
This season seems different and romantic.... OMG :Drool:
Finally we can see the steamy kisses between Em & all the F3 :cutesmile!:
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Post by christinemega Fri May 11, 2012 12:34 am

Pattycake92 wrote:
cupcakes wrote:Is she kissing Jef on the floor in the library?

Yes!!! I want to thank her ahead of time because the season looks fantastic! And by fantastic, I mean HOT!!!

I totally agree with you Pattycake..
Super mega hot.. High clap
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Post by nd4reality Fri May 11, 2012 12:59 am

Idlemess wrote:
poohbear wrote:
nutty1 wrote:
Sprite wrote:
nutty1 wrote:I just rewatched the video. She seems very taken with her F3. She looks so comfortable with Arie.
I think someone mentioned this before....Jef got shown both times she mentioned "husband".
And I noticed how they went from Jef catching that little girl in his arms right to Em twirling Ricki in her arms.

Do you think this will be the whole sneak preview shown after the premiere?? I hope not!!

This just seems to be too much Jeff that they are throwing at us in the previews. I don't trust it when they are this obvious in the editing this far in advance. In the words of Tarzan from Survivor..."the games afoot"...something is wonky with all this. :uptonogood Either they will do a straight forward edit of a love story which I find very difficult to beleive or he is a ruse to hide someone else. I know they showed Courtney last season but she was such a mean girl that no one wanted to believe it. If he is a good guy, which he seems to be, there would be no suspense and I just don't buy that they would telegraph all this. Ah well only a few more days...

Actually, I think Arie & Sean were much more obvious. Most "normal" people (certainly not any of us!) wouldn't notice the little things like that....saying husband & showing Jef. I don't think Jef was as prominent as the other F2.

Agreed. :yes: Jef's the most hidden throughout the filming actually. We got no pics of them on their dates at all. And for the preview, I wouldn't have noticed that if someone did not mention that on this board either. It just goes by so fast, people don't notice those things at all

If memory serves me correctly, on Brad's Season15 there were a few times that Chantal was shown when Brad mentioned "wife" Is this a trend only on previews or during the show as well?

cupcakes did a tally of each of the f4 screen time in the preview. Arie has the most while Sean has the least.


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Post by ninu Fri May 11, 2012 1:33 am

Trueloveforever wrote:And I gotta say, finally we get a season with not too much drama, and a real love story.

Alright, this is going to be a little bit long, so bear with me Embarassed My first reaction to the promo was High clap High clap love story, hot kisses, cutest season ever (second to my Jash ❤) but now my inner skeptic is coming out

One thing I've learned from watching the awesome edit sleuthers over the seasons is that the editors sometimes edit what they think about the future of the couple and their dynamics into the edit of the season and the previews. The one voiceover that stood out and worries me a little is the "There might be a side to him that I don't know about" or something like that. I hope that that's not true about Jef as well - it may very well be said about someone else in-show, but might be left in there as a clue to the real outcome of the show.

Another thing is the placement of the dates for the F2 - I'm hoping that Jef isn't a default F1, thrown in at the last minute because Emily lost interest in her real F1. I've been updating the contestant chart so it's very obvious to me that Arie was the early frontrunner in Emily's eyes - with both her F2 having first dates in episode 5. Now the change to Jef F1 could be because of two things - 1) he absolutely BLOWS her away during their date, so much so that Arie's advantage is removed, or 2) something happens between her and Arie to make her lose interest, eliminate him at F3 (I still think, especially in the B'ette seasons, that that's the B'ette's true F2) and choose Jef as F1 instead.

I may yet be proved wrong, and for Emily's sake I hope I am, but a relationship with reputed-playboy Jef seems more casual and easier to end than the older, serial monogamist Arie. I still think there may be some merit to RS's report that Emily discovered the dating relationship between Cassie and Arie late into filming - and even if the relationship was no big deal, it is still an erosion of trust that may have spelled doom for the fledgling relationship. Ideally, I'd want to see that Emily wasn't that into Arie in the first place, only cleverly edited to seem that way, so that her F1 relationship is able to flourish with no real competition and also so that Arie gets his closure and can come back as Bach 17 :Woah-hoo: :Woah-hoo: JM2C!


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Post by black_tears Fri May 11, 2012 1:38 am

ninu wrote:
Trueloveforever wrote:And I gotta say, finally we get a season with not too much drama, and a real love story.

Alright, this is going to be a little bit long, so bear with me Embarassed My first reaction to the promo was High clap High clap love story, hot kisses, cutest season ever (second to my Jash ❤) but now my inner skeptic is coming out

One thing I've learned from watching the awesome edit sleuthers over the seasons is that the editors sometimes edit what they think about the future of the couple and their dynamics into the edit of the season and the previews. The one voiceover that stood out and worries me a little is the "There might be a side to him that I don't know about" or something like that. I hope that that's not true about Jef as well - it may very well be said about someone else in-show, but might be left in there as a clue to the real outcome of the show.

Another thing is the placement of the dates for the F2 - I'm hoping that Jef isn't a default F1, thrown in at the last minute because Emily lost interest in her real F1. I've been updating the contestant chart so it's very obvious to me that Arie was the early frontrunner in Emily's eyes - with both her F2 having first dates in episode 5. Now the change to Jef F1 could be because of two things - 1) he absolutely BLOWS her away during their date, so much so that Arie's advantage is removed, or 2) something happens between her and Arie to make her lose interest, eliminate him at F3 (I still think, especially in the B'ette seasons, that that's the B'ette's true F2) and choose Jef as F1 instead.

I may yet be proved wrong, and for Emily's sake I hope I am, but a relationship with reputed-playboy Jef seems more casual and easier to end than the older, serial monogamist Arie. I still think there may be some merit to RS's report that Emily discovered the dating relationship between Cassie and Arie late into filming - and even if the relationship was no big deal, it is still an erosion of trust that may have spelled doom for the fledgling relationship. Ideally, I'd want to see that Emily wasn't that into Arie in the first place, only cleverly edited to seem that way, so that her F1 relationship is able to flourish with no real competition and also so that Arie gets his closure and can come back as Bach 17 :Woah-hoo: :Woah-hoo: JM2C!

This is my one fear when hearing Jef as F1 announced by Love. I'm worried he's a default F1 much like Jesse, but seems much more likeable then Jesse. Time will tell I suppose.
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Post by poohbear Fri May 11, 2012 1:48 am

^^ As long as Arie's eliminated because Emily lost interest in him, for whatever reason, I think it's fine. And I wouldn't say Jef's by default. Because that means she's still more interested in Jef than Arie.

Jesse and DeAnna's case was different. It wasn't because DeAnna lost interest in him, it was because he wasn't interested in her, and then Jesse got the default.

I think those two are completely different.


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Post by Guest Fri May 11, 2012 1:52 am

ninu wrote:
Trueloveforever wrote:And I gotta say, finally we get a season with not too much drama, and a real love story.

Alright, this is going to be a little bit long, so bear with me Embarassed My first reaction to the promo was High clap High clap love story, hot kisses, cutest season ever (second to my Jash ❤) but now my inner skeptic is coming out

One thing I've learned from watching the awesome edit sleuthers over the seasons is that the editors sometimes edit what they think about the future of the couple and their dynamics into the edit of the season and the previews. The one voiceover that stood out and worries me a little is the "There might be a side to him that I don't know about" or something like that. I hope that that's not true about Jef as well - it may very well be said about someone else in-show, but might be left in there as a clue to the real outcome of the show.

Another thing is the placement of the dates for the F2 - I'm hoping that Jef isn't a default F1, thrown in at the last minute because Emily lost interest in her real F1. I've been updating the contestant chart so it's very obvious to me that Arie was the early frontrunner in Emily's eyes - with both her F2 having first dates in episode 5. Now the change to Jef F1 could be because of two things - 1) he absolutely BLOWS her away during their date, so much so that Arie's advantage is removed, or 2) something happens between her and Arie to make her lose interest, eliminate him at F3 (I still think, especially in the B'ette seasons, that that's the B'ette's true F2) and choose Jef as F1 instead.

I may yet be proved wrong, and for Emily's sake I hope I am, but a relationship with reputed-playboy Jef seems more casual and easier to end than the older, serial monogamist Arie. I still think there may be some merit to RS's report that Emily discovered the dating relationship between Cassie and Arie late into filming - and even if the relationship was no big deal, it is still an erosion of trust that may have spelled doom for the fledgling relationship. Ideally, I'd want to see that Emily wasn't that into Arie in the first place, only cleverly edited to seem that way, so that her F1 relationship is able to flourish with no real competition and also so that Arie gets his closure and can come back as Bach 17 :Woah-hoo: :Woah-hoo: JM2C!

It seems like Arie had an epi 3 1 on 1 and Jef had his first one on epi 5, but they both had a 1 on 1 in episode 7. I think the fact that they both had a 1 on 1 in Prague puts them on equal footing. I think from some of the screencaps we can tell that Emily is really into Arie, Jef, and Sean so I don't think anyone is going to be a default F1.

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Post by docnash14 Fri May 11, 2012 1:54 am

christinemega wrote:
cupcakes wrote:New preview!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q_MAR9gUq8&feature=g-all-u



3 mins long!

thank you cupcakes... I love it... yes
This season seems different and romantic.... OMG :Drool:
Finally we can see the steamy kisses between Em & all the F3 :cutesmile!:

Who is that she is kissing right about at the 2.52 mark - the screencap right before the merry-go-round/carousel? She and the guy are in the shadows.

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Post by ninu Fri May 11, 2012 1:55 am

docnash14 wrote:
christinemega wrote:
cupcakes wrote:New preview!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q_MAR9gUq8&feature=g-all-u



3 mins long!

thank you cupcakes... I love it... yes
This season seems different and romantic.... OMG :Drool:
Finally we can see the steamy kisses between Em & all the F3 :cutesmile!:

Who is that she is kissing right about at the 2.52 mark - the screencap right before the merry-go-round/carousel? She and the guy are in the shadows.

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Post by n4692u Fri May 11, 2012 2:44 am

San wrote:
veg_out wrote:

I could be wrong about Travis. Do you think it's Doug, then?

I just checked and Travis' 1-1 is in Croatia, but it's possible then that the guy yelling is still Travis, but it may be a part of the group date in Prague? Doug has facial hair on his chin, and I don't see that in the yelling guys' pic, but I did think it could be Doug. I'd say Jef, Doug, or Travis due to hair color.

Wasn't there just 6 guys left in Prague: Jef, Sean, Arie, Chris, Doug & John? Wasn't Prague the last place they went to before HTDs?

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