Re: Bachelorette 8 - Media - Thread #1

by Sasha Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:10 pm

Another reason to give the edge to Love is that we know MF wants to trip up RS and is probably trying to set up Steve's mole. Love, OTOH, may be on Fleiss's radar but there's no evidence that she's gotten under his skin. So if her source is NOT the same as Steve's - and I imagine that they are different sources - hers is less likely to be hearing untruths.

by jello1592 Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:28 pm

Bloomers wrote:It's a funny thing about sources. We are believing LOVE. We are not particularly believing her source. We don't even know who her source is. However, because we know Love, and we trust Love, we are going to go with Love.

However, the fact remains we don't know who her source is, so it could be hard to out and out trust her source. It is a fine line, and it is one we travel when we work with spoilers.

We go through this periodically. We have to decide which spoilers to trust, and often it is based on who we know.
Occasionally, who we know gets shanghighed, and that is OK as well. We all get it wrong occasionally. I tell how the very best and oldest supersleuths on the FORT went down together a couple of times when the source was WRONG.

We have to give each other some leeway, I think. JMO>

Very true Bloomers

by eightfifteen Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:03 pm

dee wrote:
Fascinator11 wrote:
christinemega wrote:In my opinion, Emily felt so upset or angry after recently knowing the fact Arie dated Cassie in the past that she finally had to make a hard decision to send Arie home. She cried because she thought he was the one. The horse race MF tweeted could be during RC Emily sent two guys home instead of one guy. She probably sent Arie and Jef home. Therefore MF tweeted that the RC is too early, also saying it being a horse race and the Final Rose Ceremony could be sooner than expected. I read from many other threads that Jef and Arie have activated their twitter and facebook accounts. The last two men standing sadly to say based on my honest opinion would be Sean and Chris.
JMO..

I honestly don't think they would let Emily eliminate two people at this point in the process.
I agree. I think they still have a show to produce. I don't know how ratings work, but if they let Emily eliminate 2 guys after HTDs, will they only have 9 episodes (+MTA/ATFR). So they'll potentially lose out an episode's worth of ratings? And I can't recall off the top of my head. But is the FD location normally the same as the Final date/F2 location? Are they using the same hotels? If they're not, I would think a hotel sponsor would be mad, if ABC cancelled on them last minute. I think the hotels would want to have their name out there (that's why they offer free accommodation to the production?)

I'm with you on this. I know we like to speculate like crazy, but after hometowns it's always going to be 4 down to 3 down to 2. It's a tv show, and they have a set schedule to go by and sponsors to include. I'm confident there are 3 men left.

by eightfifteen Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:52 pm

This hasn't been discussed a lot, but how many are suspicious about wetpaint's "random" encounter with Arie & Emily in Prague? I've been thinking that it feels way too random to be true. And the wetpaint writer just supposedly drops everything on his/her trip to follow them around, take photos, and then scoop out the exact hotel they were staying at to get info on Doug's elimination? I don't know, but I've been thinking lately that this was set-up in advance, and they wanted the buzz to start early with Arie & Emily. If that's what they were going for, they certainly achieved it.

I could be wrong, but may as well put it out there.

by sgjsnow Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:29 pm

eightfifteen wrote:This hasn't been discussed a lot, but how many are suspicious about wetpaint's "random" encounter with Arie & Emily in Prague? I've been thinking that it feels way too random to be true. And the wetpaint writer just supposedly drops everything on his/her trip to follow them around, take photos, and then scoop out the exact hotel they were staying at to get info on Doug's elimination? I don't know, but I've been thinking lately that this was set-up in advance, and they wanted the buzz to start early with Arie & Emily. If that's what they were going for, they certainly achieved it.

I could be wrong, but may as well put it out there.

There are a lot of ???? for me too. I don't remember it being quite like this preseason before. no idea

by DMBFan Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:13 pm

eightfifteen wrote:This hasn't been discussed a lot, but how many are suspicious about wetpaint's "random" encounter with Arie & Emily in Prague? I've been thinking that it feels way too random to be true. And the wetpaint writer just supposedly drops everything on his/her trip to follow them around, take photos, and then scoop out the exact hotel they were staying at to get info on Doug's elimination? I don't know, but I've been thinking lately that this was set-up in advance, and they wanted the buzz to start early with Arie & Emily. If that's what they were going for, they certainly achieved it.

I could be wrong, but may as well put it out there.

YUP!! I thought it was way too convenient when those pics came out.

by nutty1 Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:21 pm

But we have had pictures of other guys on dates too? And videos of 2 of them at the concert.

by dee Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:29 pm

I also think that the fact that Arie had a past with Cassie made TPTB showcase and create buzz around Arie and Emily. I mean, they might as well bring up these "issues" now and tackle it head on; since the viewers are going to find out about Arie and Cassie eventually.

Although, outside of people who read spoilers, I really don't know if people even know who Arie is. The promo didn't even feature him. Everyone has the image of Chris in their heads.

by nikkij_26 Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:27 am

dee wrote:
Fascinator11 wrote:
christinemega wrote:In my opinion, Emily felt so upset or angry after recently knowing the fact Arie dated Cassie in the past that she finally had to make a hard decision to send Arie home. She cried because she thought he was the one. The horse race MF tweeted could be during RC Emily sent two guys home instead of one guy. She probably sent Arie and Jef home. Therefore MF tweeted that the RC is too early, also saying it being a horse race and the Final Rose Ceremony could be sooner than expected. I read from many other threads that Jef and Arie have activated their twitter and facebook accounts. The last two men standing sadly to say based on my honest opinion would be Sean and Chris.
JMO..

I honestly don't think they would let Emily eliminate two people at this point in the process.
I agree. I think they still have a show to produce. I don't know how ratings work, but if they let Emily eliminate 2 guys after HTDs, will they only have 9 episodes (+MTA/ATFR). So they'll potentially lose out an episode's worth of ratings? And I can't recall off the top of my head. But is the FD location normally the same as the Final date/F2 location? Are they using the same hotels? If they're not, I would think a hotel sponsor would be mad, if ABC cancelled on them last minute. I think the hotels would want to have their name out there (that's why they offer free accommodation to the production?)

First the main thing is to have the time slot on the ABC schedule. If for some reason they needed to lose an episode, they can always slot the MTA episode in it's place since it's not on the schedule with a timeline as of yet. It most likely was going to be the Sunday before the finale but could be the Monday before if they lost an episode.

However, there is NO need to lose an episode if she sent 2 guys home instead of 1. All that would do would be to shorten filming time and make filming FRC happen sooner. It wouldn't however, change the number of episodes. She would still have fantasy dates. Just have 2 FD's, instead of 3. She still needs that full 24 hours time spent alone with those guys to get to know them more and have discussions. They just wouldn't need a RC. Then, the finale episode would go on as planned with meeting Ricki & then the Parents/family. It would just mean that we would get more time to see the dates since there would be extra time free with not having 3rd FD to show or RC. So, you would still have 10 episodes just one without a RC.

:Smiley:

by KikiLove Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:35 am

nikkij_26 wrote:
dee wrote:
Fascinator11 wrote:
christinemega wrote:In my opinion, Emily felt so upset or angry after recently knowing the fact Arie dated Cassie in the past that she finally had to make a hard decision to send Arie home. She cried because she thought he was the one. The horse race MF tweeted could be during RC Emily sent two guys home instead of one guy. She probably sent Arie and Jef home. Therefore MF tweeted that the RC is too early, also saying it being a horse race and the Final Rose Ceremony could be sooner than expected. I read from many other threads that Jef and Arie have activated their twitter and facebook accounts. The last two men standing sadly to say based on my honest opinion would be Sean and Chris.
JMO..

I honestly don't think they would let Emily eliminate two people at this point in the process.
I agree. I think they still have a show to produce. I don't know how ratings work, but if they let Emily eliminate 2 guys after HTDs, will they only have 9 episodes (+MTA/ATFR). So they'll potentially lose out an episode's worth of ratings? And I can't recall off the top of my head. But is the FD location normally the same as the Final date/F2 location? Are they using the same hotels? If they're not, I would think a hotel sponsor would be mad, if ABC cancelled on them last minute. I think the hotels would want to have their name out there (that's why they offer free accommodation to the production?)

First the main thing is to have the time slot on the ABC schedule. If for some reason they needed to lose an episode, they can always slot the MTA episode in it's place since it's not on the schedule with a timeline as of yet. It most likely was going to be the Sunday before the finale but could be the Monday before if they lost an episode.

However, there is NO need to lose an episode if she sent 2 guys home instead of 1. All that would do would be to shorten filming time and make filming FRC happen sooner. It wouldn't however, change the number of episodes. She would still have fantasy dates. Just have 2 FD's, instead of 3. She still needs that full 24 hours time spent alone with those guys to get to know them more and have discussions. They just wouldn't need a RC. Then, the finale episode would go on as planned with meeting Ricki & then the Parents/family. It would just mean that we would get more time to see the dates since there would be extra time free with not having 3rd FD to show or RC. So, you would still have 10 episodes just one without a RC.

:Smiley:

An episode without a RC... but.....what will Chris Harrison do? giggling

by fijibeachbum Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:03 am

Relax poolside with a drink in his hand?

by lstiff Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:19 pm

nutty1 wrote:But we have had pictures of other guys on dates too? And videos of 2 of them at the concert.

I agree with this & think the 2 points go hand in hand. The WP pics can't be coincidence if you ask me JMO but the 1 thing they write about & promote the most just happens to "fall in their lap" hmmm not 100% convinced. That brings me to the point above. I wonder if TBP wanted to get Arie's face out there b/c of the public CLT dates with Ryan & Chris. TBH Ryan has so many fans already because of his very public 1st date. These are JMO of course!:hidingchair:

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