Bachelor 28 - Joey Graziadei - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

mbl wrote:When RS released the F1 spoiler, I admit I was disappointed.  For one, I wished it was spoiled a little later, because once it's released it takes on a life of its own, especially this season.  The spoiler brought out an unrelenting intensity in Daisy’s friend group and fans -- the whole "we riot at dawn if Daisy isn't F1" crowd that makes me ill (and a little nervous for any F1 that’s not Daisy).  Being the left-leaning NYC liberal that I am, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t also disappointed with some of the SM accounts she followed (not fair, I suppose, but I want to be honest).  

As I read more about her health issues, I have softened so much towards her.  She has almost no hearing in her 2nd ear, so another cochlear implant may be in her future.  Abigail recently said she got a second CI in middle school but had it removed because the magnet was uncomfortable and there was a lot of beeping, and she just gave up.  It's also not clear that there won't be more debilitating health issues related to Lyme disease in the future.  If Daisy is F1 I might be a little disappointed because of what I said above, but I think she deserves all the happiness in the world because of what she's gone through (actually we all deserve that, but you know what I mean).

With that in mind, I'm still 50-50 on who F1 is.  Of course, RS is right more than he is wrong, and boy does he believe he’s right this season LOL.  There are other things that make me wonder though.  One is Daisy's edit.  There's so much focus on her CI implant, hearing, health and non-profit, that it makes me wonder if TPTB are extracting as much credit for themselves as they can for promoting diversity without having to make her the Bachelorette if she is F2.  At the recent TCA event, one of the producers was quoted as saying “I can speak to where we are now. Our goal is to represent the fabric of the country, not just in terms of diversity and ethnicity, but also ability and body types and representing where people are from in the country as well.” (https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/bachelor-producers-address-diversity-issues-after-tca-flub/)

If Daisy is F1, the show doesn't need to spend as much time on her disability because being F1 will speak for itself.  She and the lead, depending on how long they last, will always be tied to the show, giving the show continued kudos for showcasing disability.  I don't know enough about television production, but if Daisy is F2, there will be very loud voices calling for her to be the Bachelorette.  I'm not as confident as others are that the show is willing or able to pull that off.  Just off the top of my head, there are always a couple of dates where the lead and a date jump in the water, go underwater, etc.  Would all of that be scrapped?  Would they avoid beach destinations where water activity is expected?   The locations for the upcoming Bachelorette season were probably finalized a while ago, so unless those locations work with Daisy as the lead, it might be difficult to switch gears/plans/dates.  I'd like to think the show would make all the necessary accommodations, but I'm not sure they could or would.  So it’s possible that the show wants to get as much positive spin out of Daisy's disability as they can right now because she will not be their next lead.  If Daisy is F2, it could explain both Maria’s positive edit and Kelsey’s edit.  If Kelsey is F2 and she doesn’t reject Joey either before or at the FRC, she in many ways would fit the mold of a typical lead -- gorgeous, southern, close military family, sad backstory of her mother’s death.   So why isn't her edit more like that of a next bachelorette contender?  I think she’s been a little awkward on camera, sure, but I imagine production could easily edit her to make her many people’s first choice or a strong contender for bachelorette if they wanted to, especially given the demographics of the show’s fan base.  

It's also a head scratcher why Joey only likes posts where Kelsey A is in the first pic.  If he wants to push back against the spoiler, couldn't he also like posts where any of the other women in the F6 are in the first pic?  How many people even see Joey’s likes outside of sleuthers?  Just my opinion (all of this is, of course) but it's going to take a lot more than Joey liking a few Kelsey posts to get people off of the idea that Daisy wins.  And why would the show want to do that anyway?  This season's popularity is due, at least in part, to the hope/belief of many viewers that Daisy is Joey’s F1.  You could make the argument that teasing the possibility of a different F1 might have the unintended consequence of less people watching, not more.  

Anyway, those are some of my thoughts.  Interested, as always, in your feedback.  All IMO

mbl wrote:@Jeepers if she takes the implant off or wears a sleeve over it can she hear?

Remdiamond wrote:Could be a latergram. Funny she has been silent for a few days and then posts this. I’m not convinced if there was a shv that it was in LA.