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Emily Maynard 'The Bachelorette 2012' spoilers: A getaway with her final guy
May 29, 2012

Viewers may have just watched Episode 3 of ABC's “The Bachelorette 2012” Monday night, but fans know that filming of the show wrapped up around May 10. There have been plenty of “Bachelorette” spoilers available for this season, but it's been trickier to get scoop on anything beyond the final three guys. There is buzz about which guy won Emily Maynard's heart, and if true, it looks like many fans will be in for a shocker this season. Monday some new scoop became available that some spoiler fans think really nails down at least part of the ending for Emily Maynard and this season of the show.

In early May, even before the final rose ceremony was filmed, poster “Love_Me” at the Bach and Bachette Fan forums shared that her sources indicated Jef Holm would be Emily Maynard's final one this season. Many have found this hard to believe, and Monday night's episode featuring the steamy date between Emily and Arie Luyendyk, Jr. definitely leaves many with some doubt. However, since the “Bachelorette” spoiler came out about Jef, there have been additional signs that seem to confirm that Jef Holm is the last man standing.

Many spoiler fans think they see hints in the editing that point to a love story building between Emily and Jef, but some of the biggest clues have been online. Poster Fascinator11 at the forums noticed that Jef has posted some Instagram pictures that indicate he was in the Caribbean for some extra time post-filming, which would certainly point to some alone time with Emily. It's typical for the final couple to spend a few days together after the wrap party. Spoiler fans are excited, however, to get some new information on Monday that seems to confirm that Emily and Jef are together.

Spoiler fans started suspecting that Emily and Jef had a weekend together this past weekend, and Monday sources for those at the Bach and Bachette Fan forums are confirming it. Emily was doing the media rounds last week for the show, but it seems everything wrapped up with her interviews Thursday. However, Emily stuck around Los Angeles for the weekend and was spotted on a flight Monday from LAX heading back to Charlotte. For Emily Maynard to stick around Los Angeles all weekend, but be under the radar, definitely seems to point to a “safe house” visit with her final guy.

Now, fans of course look to the confirmed final three for the season: Arie Luyendyk, Jr., Sean Lowe and Jef Holm. Arie was involved with the Indy 500 broadcast, so he clearly wasn't in Los Angeles with Emily. Sean Lowe isn't on social media sites, but it is said he was spotted in Dallas this past weekend. Jef Holm, however, didn't tweet at all over the long weekend and there were indications he might be in L.A. Moderator San from the forum posted Monday that her source confirmed that Jef and Emily spent the Memorial Day weekend together, and all signs seem to point to this being true.

While it's unknown at this point exactly what happens during the finale of ABC's “The Bachelorette 2012,” it does appear that Emily Maynard does fall for Jef Holm and they are spending time together now. Are they engaged? Will they be able to stick together? Or, has “The Bachelorette” machine been able to set “Bachelorette” spoiler fans up for a big shocker with some kind of entirely different ending?

Viewers will have to tune in to see what happens, and it seems it'll be quite the ride to get to the finale. Do you see the love story brewing between Emily Maynard and Jef Holm, or do you think Emily is with someone else? Tune in to ABC Monday nights at 8 p.m. ET/7 p.m. CT to see the love story develop on “The Bachelorette 2012.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/emily-maynard-the-bachelorette-2012-spoilers-a-getaway-with-her-final-guy

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[Admin]

'The Bachelorette' Star Kalon McMahon's Big Lie to Emily Maynard

We're only a handful of episodes into The Bachelorette, and Emily Maynard is already on the receiving end of romantic whispers from series he-diva Kalon McMahon about their finding true love together. But a friend warns Emily that she should see Kalon's sweet nothings for just that — nothing! —given his treatment of the longtime girlfriend he dumped for his shot at TV stardom.

Kalon, 27, a luxury branding consultant from Houston, has called Emily, 26, a "princess" and has claimed he's open to marrying her. He's also stated that being on The Bachelorette is "the first time he's put himself out there in a vulnerable state."

But Erica Rose, a 2006 contestant on The Bachelor, who grew up with Kalon in Texas, tells Star exclusively, "Emily should take anything he says with a grain of salt. And if she wants to know why, all she has to do is see how he lied to his girlfriend in Houston — just like he's lying to Emily now."

Star has reported exclusively on Kalon's raunchy 2009 personal "diary" detailing his womanizing and partying. Late the following year, he began what appeared to be a serious romance with beautiful law student Lauren Serice, 25, after they met on a blind date.

"Lauren was wary at first because she heard bad things about Kalon, but he can turn on the charm at the drop of a hat," Erica tells Star. "He put on his act and worked hard to win her over."

During their relationship, says Erica, Kalon admitted to Lauren that he didn't want to have children. "That's another lie he's been telling to Emily too," Erica adds, "since she has a young daughter and Kalon would never be in a situation where he has to be a stepdad."

http://www.okmagazine.com/news/bachelorette-star-kalon-mcmahons-big-lie-emily-maynard

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Bermuda To Feature On Tonight’s Bachelorette

The beauty of Bermuda will provide a scenic backdrop to the fourth episode of ABC’s hit show “The Bachelorette.” The show, whose visit to the island was arranged by the Bermuda Department of Tourism, is scheduled to air this evening [June 4] at 9pm on Channel #7.

The episode will cover three uniquely Bermudian dates with the newest Bachelorette, Emily Maynard, the first single mom to ever star on the series, who first captured America’s heart on the 15th season of “The Bachelor.”

“The Bachelorette is one of America’s most-watched primetime programmes and each season is highly anticipated,” said Minister of Business Development and Tourism Wayne Furbert. “The exposure that Bermuda will receive to tens of millions of North American viewers is tremendous and will highlight why this is truly one of the world’s ultimate romantic destinations.”

Viewers will join Maynard and her prospective suitors as they enjoy Bermuda’s natural scenery and cultural experiences. While on the island, Maynard and company stayed at Rosewood Tucker’s Point.

There she enjoyed the candlelit wine cellar at The Point, the resort’s fine dining restaurant, during a romantic one-on-one date. She also took part in a group date at the resort’s private beach club overlooking a stunning stretch of Bermuda’s signature pink sand beach capped off by a spectacular fireworks display.

A walk along the cobblestone streets of the Town of St. George helped Maynard and her date understand where Bermuda’s distinctive culture began.

While in the town they visited attractions such as the Bermuda Perfumery for a signature fragrance and St. Peter’s, Their Majesties Chappell. After enjoying a rum cake and a Gombey troupe performance, Maynard and her date walked through a Moongate for luck.

Maynard also saw Bermuda’s maritime activities on full display during a visit to the Royal Bermuda Yacht Club for a fun and very competitive sailing regatta amongst her gentlemen suitors. In addition, she sailed aboard The Venetian, one of the island’s most luxurious yachts, and witnessed thrilling cliff jumping into the Atlantic.

Bermuda’s subterranean caves provided the setting for a memorable dinner date amidst crystal stalagmites and stalactites and cool reflecting waters. The show’s signature Rose Ceremony took place in one of Bermuda’s beautiful private homes before Maynard and her suitors left the island for their next adventures.

Minister Furbert added: “I would also like to thank the more than 100 people who assisted the production in Bermuda including of course Tucker’s Point and Grotto Bay but also the Town of St. George, taxi drivers, truckers, charter boats, restaurants, Gombeys and suppliers of services from flowers and candles to tents and electricians.”

The new season of The Bachelorette airs Mondays at 9pm Bermuda time on ABC [channel #7 on CableVision]

[Love_Me]

'The Bachelorette's' Emily Maynard: 'I just have to keep trying'

By Jay Bobbin

After being the subject of much conversation during your "Bachelor" run, were you prepared for that again going into "The Bachelorette"?

Emily Maynard: Obviously, that was a huge thing in the back of my head, "Am I going to be able to go through all of this again?" I think that maybe I wasn't in the right place last time to be able to deal with everything. It's like you're put in a whirlwind, and your whole life changes in a second. I wasn't prepared for that, and this time, I am. It didn't change me as a person; it actually made me stronger, so I'm not that worried about it.

Zap2it: The percentage of couples who have stayed together over the history of the "Bachelor" and "Bachelorette" franchises hasn't been huge. What do you think about that?

Emily Maynard: There have been 16 seasons of "The Bachelor," and I've been on more than 16 dates in my lifetime, so that doesn't mean I'm going to stop dating. I just have to keep trying. I'm not ever going to give up on love until I find the right guy.

Zap2it: What kind of contact have you had with Brad Womack, with whom you were paired at the end of "The Bachelor" last year?

Emily Maynard: Right now [while taping "The Bachelorette"], I don't have a phone, a computer ... anything. Before that, I had talked to Brad about doing the show, and he's excited for me. We both know it can work, and obviously, we both wish I didn't have to do it again. But he's been very supportive.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/06/the-bachelorettes-emily-maynard-i-just-have-to-keep-trying.html

[Love_Me]

Some Bachelors on Thin Ice with Emily in Bermuda

06/04/2012


This week the guys and Emily headed to Bermuda! Emily was there with her daughter Ricki and they were having a great time together. Ricki gets to join her mother on all of her worldwide stops. The guys ride in like a bunch of losers on mopeds…that was really lame. Anyway they get to stay at a great house.



The first date card is waiting there and it was for Doug and said, “Let our senses lead the way.” Doug is excited but worried he won’t get a rose and have to go home. The guys all have a great time with that and push his buttons to get him more worried, especially Arie, it was pretty funny actually.


Emily shows up and Doug tells her that she looks pretty, but Emily senses the weird tension in the room. They take a walk around Bermuda and visit a glass shop, a perfumery, and apparently went to the rum cake factory because that’s what they were eating on the steps! This was particularly fun to watch because my husband and I took a cruise to Bermuda last year and it was great to see all the places we visited.



Emily was saying to Doug that she’s never seen them grumpy and he laughed and said well you walked in on a grumpy moment with the guys. She thought it was funny that he scolded the guys. Then they went to the moon gate and made a wish, held hands, and walked through it together.



Back at the hotel, the guys waited for the next date card. It was for the group date, “Let’s set sail”. Nate, John, and Alejandro are not on the group date so two of them will be on the two-on-one date where one of them will definitely get sent home.



On the one-on-one with Emily and Doug, they go to dinner and sitting on table is rose. Doug tells her he’s so touched that they wrote a postcard to his son. Emily said that she feels a little skeptical and said that he actually reminded her of Brad in that he always gives her the perfect answer. She tells him that she wants to know what his ex-girlfriend’s biggest complaints are about him and she doesn’t like his answers because she thinks they aren’t 100% honest. So then she starts to tell him her faults and he tells her those aren’t bad faults! They are kind of the same person!



So after realizing that she put him on the spot, kind of unfairly, she decides to give him the date rose! Emily says that the date had given her faith that there are great guys out there, and he was so happy! He said it was the best date he’s ever had. He wants to kiss her but he holds back because he just isn’t sure. Emily is sitting there, kind of waiting to be kissed, and it seemed awkward!



The next day, it was time for the group date. They break up into two teams to have a sailing race. The losing team will have to go back to the hotel while the winners get to spend time with Emily.



John and Nate learn that they are on the dreaded two-on-one date with a date card that read, “Let’s explore this Bermuda love triangle.”



Then, the sailboat race starts. The guys were fast and furious out there! I was really impressed with how fast they learned how to maneuver the sail boats. The yellow team with Arie, Jef, Ryan, and Kalon won. Jef hurt his finger pretty bad while sailing on one of the ropes, but it looks like he’s going to be ok. The red team heads back to the hotel, and Charlie cried on the van ride!



Ryan makes a toast to his “trophy wife” Emily and she seemed a little annoyed by that comment. Arie tells Emily that he missed her when they snuck away to chat. They end up kissing and he tells her that he can’t’ wait to spend more time with her and she tells him to be patient and hang in there.



Then Jef gets to spend some time with Emily too. He tells her that he likes who she is and tells her that he doesn’t know where he stands with her though. Emily liked that he opened up to her. He shows her his finger boo boo. She totally gave him the kiss vibe, but he didn’t take it! She says she didn’t mind, but I think she did!



Ryan talks to Emily and says that he’s not there to impress her but to make an impression upon her…ok. She says to him that she doesn’t like all of the comments he makes and he told her that God designed her to be a beautiful woman and to be a beautiful woman in response to her asking if he would still like her if she didn’t go to the gym. Ryan brings up her kissing Arie at the rose ceremony and said he had a hard time with that. She says that relationships go at different speeds and she apologizes for him having to see it. She says that she feels like he’s judging her.



Emily decides to give the date rose to Jef! He was very excited and shocked that she gave the rose to him. He was happy that he made an impact on her and said he’s starting to fall for her. Arie was really bummed that he didn’t get the rose. Ryan said that giving it to Jef was a safe decision on her part.



At last, it was time for the dreaded two-on-one date. Nate and John packed their bags and got ready for the date. They head out on a boat to a big yacht where Emily was waiting.



Back at the hotel, Chris and Doug dispute the differences between guys at 25 or 35 and the maturity aspect. Chris said that he thinks Doug hides behind his mature age of 33. Tension is brewing!!!



On the yacht, Emily and the guys take a tour of the islands and then the pull up to a small island to do some cliff diving. It seemed like a fun time, but there was still the awkward two-on-one dinner to come.



Inside a cave, they go to dinner and talk about how quiet it is in there. Then they talk about quinoa and if they’ve ever had it before. Emily said it was so awkward and one of the worst dates of her life. Emily picks Nate to go talk to first. Nate tells her he was bummed at first that he was on a two-on-one but said that he understood why he was on that date, and he tells her he’s happy that he’s there, he wants kids, and he has a great family. He starts to cry when he talks about his friends and family, but the whole crying thing did not work out so great for Tony last week, so we’ll have to see how it plays out.


Later, she chats with John and he talks about how he’s not one to say “hey, look at me” but knew if he could get her alone, she might like him. Emily says that she likes that about him.



After talking to both of them, Emily decides that she’s going to keep John around. She tells Nate that she doesn’t see them together forever. She has to give John the rose right in front of him! How cold!



The night of the cocktail party started out pretty tense. The guys feel that basically anybody could go home. Ryan is overly confident about his connection with Emily and Arie thinks it’s a load of crap, I would have to agree. Alejandro wasn’t on any dates this week so he wants to talk to her right away. She reassures him that she can tell he’s a passionate person.


Ryan and Emily talk again and he calls her out for touching his leg in a creepy way. He’s really starting to irk me.



Arie decides to go rescue Emily from the situation. Emily seemed all too eager to jump up and get out of the room. He asks her what she really thinks about him and she says that she feels really comfortable around him and she can picture him in her everyday life. He was really happy with that answer.



Ryan is talking to Michael about how if Emily doesn’t pick him he wants to be the “Bachelor” and thinks it’s great that he’s in this position and thinks that it would be awesome for people to see. Um, no, I don’t think so. He is so full of himself!!!



Sean talks to Emily and she says that she was bummed his team lost the sailing competition. She admits that she feels strongly about him already. Sean tells her that he feels the same. He asks her how Ricki would react to her getting married and he was excited to hear that she would be excited about it and Emily added in again that she wants more children. Then they kissed! Woo!



Doug says that he thinks Emily is making a mistake keeping Chris around because he’s not mature enough to be a father. Chris talks to Emily about this and says that she has nothing to worry about and he’s looking forward to it. I think he did a good job explaining the situation without bringing up that it was Doug he had the problem with.



Chris talks to Doug about the age thing again and Doug tells him he thinks he’s being immature right now. He tells Chris that he’s insecure and Chris says that he’s overpowering in front of the whole group. Chris says that he doesn’t believe him in general, the way he is and the way he acts. He says he’s over the top humble and he doesn’t believe it. Doug just sat there and smiled as Chris got up and walked away.



Then it was time for roses! Doug, Jef, and John already have roses from their dates.



Also receiving roses were:

Sean

Arie

Travis (really?! I’m kind of surprised by this one)

Chris

Ryan (wow I’m surprised that she’s giving him one more chance)

Kalon

Alejandro



Wow, Alejandro over Charlie? I’m shocked! I wonder if we’ll actually get to see some interaction between them next week. Michael and Charlie were sent home. Michael was very gracious; he told her that he hopes she finds someone who makes her happy.



The next stop for next week is London! How exciting! There’s going to be some great confrontations next week, I can’t wait!



Hugs, Kisses & Roses,
Jennifer Matarese



PS. I'm having trouble with the images at the moment so please check back later for pictures!

http://www.cominguprosesblog.com/2012/06/some-bachelors-on-thin-ice-with-emily-in-bermuda.html

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]PRESS RELEASE - ENTERTAINMENT - NEXT WEEK ON THE BACHELORETTE (6/11)


FIREWORKS EXPLODE IN LONDON AS EMILY CONFRONTS ONE BACHELOR FOR
A DISPARAGING REMARK ABOUT HER DAUGHTER AND WONDERS WHY SHE WAS
THE LAST TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS MAN, ON ABC'S "THE BACHELORETTE"

Eight Men Put on a Show in Stratford-upon-Avon, and a Tour of City Ends with Emily
and One Handsome Bachelor in a Romantic Lock-up in the Tower of London

"Episode 805" - Explosive drama underlines the group's trip to historic London. From Buckingham Palace to the Tower of London, Emily and Sean share the romance of the city. Shakespearian theatre will never be the same once eight men on a group date invade the Bard's birthplace, Stratford-upon-Avon, to perform classic scenes from "Romeo and Juliet." However, the after party turns from going to a pub for a brew to a brawl when Emily discovers that one of the men has made a disrespectful comment about her daughter, Ricki. Not only does Emily confront the offender, but she finds none of the other men support her and ends up making some stunning decisions. Jef and Emily have a proper English tea, but decide to ditch their stern etiquette teacher and escape to a local pub. Trying to put the drama about her daughter aside, she takes Jef to one of the most romantic spots in the city - the London Eye, a gigantic Ferris wheel on the banks of the Thames River. But Emily makes it her personal mission at the cocktail party to find out which guys knew about the offensive comment and why they didn't warn her earlier about the insulting bachelor. Do any of these men have her back? She needs to find out and fast, as the group travels to Croatia next, on "The Bachelorette," MONDAY, JUNE 11 (8:00-10:01 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.


For her first one-on-one date of the week, Emily and Sean jump onto one of the iconic double-decker buses to tour the city. They share a romantic kiss at Buckingham Palace where Prince William and Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge, exchanged their public kisses as man and wife. Later that night, the couple share a private dinner locked inside the Tower of London. Emily seems smitten with her date, but will Sean be able to unlock her heart and get the rose?


The next morning eight lucky bachelors meet Emily at Stratford-upon-Avon on a group date. Some of men embrace the opportunity to become thespians for the day, acting in scenes from Shakepeare's famous "Romeo and Juliet." Emily hopes they all have a blast, since part of being a parent is learning to go with the flow. A confident Ryan relishes playing Romeo and having the opportunity to kiss Emily for the first time. Arie is terrified when he discovers he must dress like a woman to portray the nurse. Kalon is so fixated on his performance, he shoos Emily away so he can get more rehearsal time. The live audience that gathers gets a lot of laughs as the men perform their scenes with Emily playing Juliet, but Ryan's kiss as Romeo rocks the rest of the guys to their core.


That night, when the group go to a local pub to celebrate their "reviews," a fun time turns into a debacle. A brave bachelor tells Emily about an insulting remark one man made about her daughter and it becomes public knowledge. She confronts the thoughtless guy. Disheartened that any of her suitors would say such a horrible thing and discouraged that none of the other men stand by her in the confrontation, Emily makes some startling decisions.


Attempting to put the situation behind her, Emily tries to teach Jef the proper English way to have afternoon tea, but when the etiquette class becomes too much, they run to a local pub and then to the London Eye - one of the city's iconic landmarks and symbol of modern Britain. Will Jef finally make his move and kiss Emily, or will he fail to seize the moment?


At the dramatic cocktail party, Emily is totally focused on grilling the men. Who knew about the disrespectful comment and why did no one alert her earlier about the boorish bachelor who made it? Arie, in particular, is put on the hot seat. Where is the man she can look to as a husband and a stepfather to her daughter? She is beginning to wonder if any of these guys can fill the bill. After the rose ceremony, eight men remain to travel onto one of Europe's most beautiful countries: Croatia.


The 10 remaining men are:
Alejandro, 24, a mushroom farmer from San Francisco, CA
Arie, 30, a race car driver from Scottsdale, AZ
Chris, 25, a corporate sales director from Chicago, IL
Doug, 33, a charity director/realtor from Seattle, WA
Jef, 27, an entrepreneur from Salt Lake City, UT
John "Wolf," 30, a data destruction specialist from St. Louis, MO
Kalon, 27, a luxury brand consultant from Houston, TX
Ryan, 31, a pro sports trainer from Augusta, GA
Sean, 28, an insurance agent from Dallas, TX
Travis, 30, an advertising sales representative from Madison, MS

http://www.abcmedianet.com/assets/pr/html/060512_03.html

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Tuesday, June 05, 2012 ABC Television Network PRESS RELEASE - ENTERTAINMENT - Teleconference with eliminated Bachelor Charlie (6/8)

MEDIA ALERT

PLEASE JOIN US THURSDAY FOR A TELECONFERENCE CALL WITH CHARLIE, ONE OF
TWO BACHELORS WHO WERE ELIMINATED THIS WEEK ON ABC'S "THE BACHELORETTE"

WHAT:
Teleconference call with Charlie, one of two men eliminated from "The Bachelorette" this week, as the field begins to seriously narrow.


WHEN:
Thursday, June 7, 12:30 p.m., ET/11:30 a.m., CT/9:30 a.m., PT


WHO:
Charlie, 32, a recruiter from Nashville, TN, survived a near-fatal accident almost two years ago, but had fully recovered and had a new outlook on life. He impressed Emily by overcoming the extreme anxiety he suffered at the Muppets charity event, as he developed serious performance-related panic. However, he was up to challenge as he charmed Miss Piggy as well as Emily. Charlie managed to fly under the radar in a number of group dates and unfortunately, was on the losing sailboat racing team in Bermuda and unable to spend extra time getting to know Emily. Finally, when he was let go, he lamented not being more open with the Bachelorette, but he felt he did leave his feelings on the line, as his tears mixed with raindrops outside the hotel.


CALL INFO: IT IS NECESSARY TO RSVP TO RECEIVE THE CONFERENCE TELEPHONE NUMBER AND CONFERENCE CODE!

Title: ABC Conference Call: "The Bachelorette"
Please plan to dial in 5-10 minutes prior to the scheduled start time.
Please note: This call is for media only.

PLEASE RSVP TO
Joyce Strange, Joyce.Strange@disney.com; by 11:00 a.m., ET on June 7

http://www.abcmedianet.com/assets/pr/html/060512_08.html

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"The Bachelorette" Spoiler: London's Luxe May Fair Hotel Featured in Episode 5

Travel and Real Estate
June 6th, 2012

London - Reported by Elite Traveler, the Private Jet Lifestyle Magazine

The May Fair Hotel accommodated the cast and crew of the fifth episode of The Bachelorette. The episode featured gorgeous living quarters in the hotel’s signature suites occupied by the show’s suitors and the newest Bachelorette, Emily Maynard, the first single mom to ever star on the series and who first captured America’s heart on the 15th season of "The Bachelor."

The 406-room, May Fair Hotel, located in the heart of London’s May Fair district, was first opened by King George V in 1927 and has been a by-word for elegance and style since it opened. The hotel, the official hotel for London Fashion Week and BFI London Film Festival was awarded Cool Brand status this year (second year running) and offers many romantic touches that allowed Emily and her potential suitors to fall in love.

From the first steps taken under the dazzling and sparkling lights from the lobby’s Baccarat chandelier to a champagne toast in 150 at The May Fair, the hotel’s - and London’s - most popular magnum champagne bar, followed by a romantic dinner at the popular Quince restaurant, the hotel, and their superlative staff, are able to advise and indulge guests’ every romantic whim.

The hotel provides additional romantic offerings including spa treatments at the May Fair Spa, movie dates in The May Fair theatre, the largest private theatre in London, or gazing at the 180° breathtaking view of London as seen from the hotel’s rooftop penthouse.

The new season of The Bachelorette airs Mondays at 8/7 Central on ABC.

www.themayfairhotel.co.uk

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'The Bachelorette's Charlie Grogan: Talking to Emily Maynard was like talking to the wall sometimes

By Elizabeth Kwiatkowski, 06/07/2012

The Bachelorette bachelor Charlie Grogan, a 32-year-old recruiter from Nashville, TN, was eliminated by Bachelorette Emily Maynard along with two other bachelors during Monday night's broadcast of the ABC reality dating series' eighth season.


Charlie and Michael Nance, a 26-year-old rehab counselor from Austin, TX, were ousted during the fourth episode's Rose Ceremony, while Nate Bakke, a 25-year-old accountant from Los Angeles, CA, was sent home during his two-on-one date with Emily and fellow bachelor John "Wolf" Wolfner.

During a Thursday conference call with reporters, Charlie talked to Reality TV World about his short-lived The Bachelorette experience -- including why he felt like he was unable to really open up to Emily and vice versa, which specific bachelor he would choose amongst all the rest to end up with Emily and why, and how he knew Emily prior to appearing on the show and why he believed she came across differently when cameras weren't around the first time they met.


Below is the first half of Charlie's call. Check back with Reality TV World soon for the concluding portion.

Reality TV World: Do you think if your team had won the sailboat race and you got to spend that extra time with Emily at night that maybe you would've gotten a rose and stuck around longer? In other words, do you think losing that sailboat race kind of sealed your fate in the competition?

Charlie Grogan: I'm not really sure, but I think I probably could've talked to her more about more personal things, because every time we did have conversations, it was never a good time and place to get into those things. I didn't really know a lot about her background, her stories.

I mean, obviously I can go online now and read about them, but going into The Bachelorette, I didn't really know too much about her story, because I wanted to learn about it from her.

I'd say the Bermuda atmosphere and surroundings would have been more of a fit environment for me to kind of pick her brain a little bit more and maybe same for her -- she could've picked my brain a little bit more and learned a little bit more about my story and what I'm going through. I think that definitely would've carried me on into the next, I guess, round.

But yeah, it is what it is and again, I never really had that one-on-one intimate-type of opportunity to really share those kinds of stories. It was always more group dates or at a lounge or at a bar. Again, there's a time and place to share those kinds of feelings, and I didn't really feel like those were it. I was hoping that maybe I would eventually get that opportunity to get that time, but I never did and it's alright.

Reality TV World: During the Muppet Show group date, you told Emily you were uncomfortable doing comedy in front of everyone because you had been undergoing speech therapy and everything following your accident. Would you mind elaborating on that a little more? How long had you been working on your speech prior to that moment and how much further did you feel like you had to go before you could feel comfortable speaking in front of an audience?

Charlie Grogan: Well, that's a good question. To this day, I still go to speech therapy. There are still a lot of things that I have to work on. There's a lot of words that I can't still pronounce. If there's anything more than three or four syllables in it, I have a hard time pronouncing it, so I have to kind of sound it out. So that was difficult.

What made me decide to go and approach her was the fact that me and John "Wolf" were kind of rehearsing what we had written down so far, and I was having a hard time really pronouncing the punch line when it came to the joke. And it was really stressing me out because I don't want to be the guy to ruin such an important event for Emily and for Ricki and for the show.

So I didn't want to be that guy to go onstage and kind of bite my tongue and the audience is kind of like, "Who is this guy and what is wrong with him?" Because they didn't know my story. Everyone that I've been around since my accident has known what happened to me and what I've gone through, so we kind of laugh about it when I like stumble on a word or can't really pronounce something.

It's kind of funny to us now and I'm willing to laugh about it, but I just wasn't ready because again, to be thrown into a 1200-people audience plus a million on national television, it would be my first time actually talking around a lot of people without -- it's messing up and not being made a fool of -- I think that was my insecurity the most there at the end. And then also, I got called onstage for the Miss Piggy thing. I pulled it off, but oof, that was tough.

Reality TV World: During Monday night's episode, there was a lot of discussion amongst the bachelors about age. Chris, who's 25, apparently thought Doug, who is 33, was a little condescending towards him -- as Doug was saying maybe Chris wasn't mature enough to date Emily and take on a daughter. You're 32, so what are your thoughts on that argument? Were you aware of the conflict between Doug and Chris while you were there and whose side are you on?

Charlie Grogan: Yeah well, I was actually there in the room when they were having that conversation at the hotel, but I could kind of lean either way. I was on Doug's side in regards to you have more experience by age, but then again at the same time, I agree with Chris because he's right.

He's very mature at his age. I know at 25, I was nowhere near close to his maturity level. Again I don't know him, I'm just basing that onset, which has only been close to a month. But yeah, the argument could go either way. It all depends on your experiences in life and how you take those experiences and how you mature -- no matter if you're 18 or 38.

An 18-year-old could go through a lot more stuff in his time of 18 years than a 28-year-old could've gone through in his time of being 28. So, again, it's just all about experiences. I know at 33, I was going through a lot in life and I think I'm very mature for my age. But I think I'm a lot more mature than my friends. I have a lot of friends who are my age and they haven't experienced anywhere close to what I have. So, it can go either way. I agree with both parties.

Reality TV World: Out of the remaining guys, who did you think might be the best man for Emily while you were on the show? Did any of the bachelors stand out in your mind for any reason?

Charlie Grogan: Yeah, I think just knowing them on and off and seeing how people act when cameras, lights and action was going on, I thought from Day 1, I thought Sean was a great guy. I don't know what his and Emily's one-on-one time was like, or what their conversations were like, but from my point of view, I thought Sean was a great guy.

If I could pick one, that would be the one, but I've got a lot in mind. I mean, Travis is a great guy, Wolf is a great guy -- I can't really find the word -- but if I was told to pick one out of the guys left, I think Sean is a pretty good dude.

Reality TV World: When we talked to Tony last week, he said he thought there were some guys in the house who claimed they were ready to step into a father role but probably weren't in reality. So would you agree or disagree with Tony, and if you agree, who did you think wasn't ready to be a dad?

Charlie Grogan: I get the feeling that there's a lot of guys there for other things and opportunities that can come out of being on a TV show. You know, for myself, I don't act, I don't sing, I don't dance, I don't model. So I was going on this for just the experience alone so that when I'm 60, and I talk to my kids or I'm a grandfather, I can be like, "I was on a TV show and it was great. The experience was wonderful."

But I think there were a lot of guys that were on the show for other intentions. I'm not that guy to name names. At the Men Tell All episode, whenever that airs, I might be a little bit more in position to call them out, but yeah right now, I think it's a little too early and I don't want to name names or hurt anyone. Who knows, her mind might change.

I wasn't there for the remainder of the taping, so it might've changed their life and they might've had a different outlook on everything like maybe their passion for her or the experience in their life. So I'm sorry I didn't really answer that question, but I can't.

Reality TV World: Besides you, Michael and Nate also didn't receive roses during Monday night's episode. Do you have any insight as to why Emily let them go, and what did you think of those two guys? What were your impressions of them?

Charlie Grogan: You know what? I don't really -- Nate was one of my roommates in the house. He was great, fun-loving -- again, he was 25. I mean, Nate being 25 and Chris being 25, again it's the maturity level. You can tell Chris was really more mature than Nate -- I mean, not to say Nate was immature -- but you can tell by talking with Chris and hanging out with Chris, you would've never guessed he was 25.

But with Nate, yeah you know, he was still a little wet behind the ears. Nate was great; He was awesome. But I don't know, maybe that's why Emily sent him home, because she maybe saw that kind of like not quite the maturity level she's looking for. Granted she's only 26, but she has a kid, she's gone through a lot. So her maturity level is even higher.

Mike, great dude, quiet. I'm not sure if he really had a lot of time to spend with her, so that's maybe been his downfall. But I became pretty close with Mike in the house and he's a great dude, so I don't really know why she would send him home. I don't know why she would send me home, so yeah.

Reality TV World: What were your impressions of Emily while you were on the show? Did she turn out to be everything you had anticipated or were you disappointed about anything at all?

Charlie Grogan: Again, it's so hard to tell because of the cameras and the lights and all the people sitting around. I mean, your comfort zone isn't really there. Because I met her way before the show. I met her years and years and years ago here in Nashville with mutual friends.

We have mutual friends that live here, and I'd have to say that she acted a lot different than she did while I was on the show. She has to have this persona that she has to keep. I don't know. At some times, I felt -- again, I think there just wasn't a spark between us -- but sometimes I felt the conversations weren't really flowing.

I mean, they were flowing on my end, but on hers, it was kind of just like I was just like talking to the wall. I don't know. Again, I don't know. Maybe it was just -- I don't know. I can't answer that. I'll feel comfortable talking to her, now if she feels comfortable talking to me, I can't really answer that.

I mean, again, every conversation we had was great and it ended perfectly. But again, I didn't think we got too much into the intimate side of me or the deep side of me, and that was sort of my downfall because I waited until the last minute to start bringing that out. So I have no idea.

Reality TV World: You made a comment that you actually met Emily before going on The Bachelorette. Do you mind elaborating on that a little bit? Did she remember you once she saw you on the show and how were you cast on the show? Was the fact Emily was its star the reason behind why you initially applied to be on The Bachelorette?

Charlie Grogan: No, actually, I got cast by a girlfriend of mine that I went to college with online. Actually, when they called me, I thought it was a prank call. I thought it was a bill collector. I didn't answer for like two or three days. I finally picked [the phone] up and was like, "Who is this? What do you want?"

But yeah, she remembered me. She had said the moment I stepped out of the limo -- she looked at me and was like, "Damn, I think I know this guy!" And that was really kind of a cute conversation we had together, because she didn't know how she remembers me, but she had seen me before and this and that.

And I was like, "Yeah, you know, we knew each other through mutual friends at a birthday party and we had a good time." She knew my face. She remembered me, but she didn't really know how it went. So again, that was a really cute conversation that we had together that wasn't shown. But it's understandable because the [editors] can only fit so much into an episode. She definitely remembers me.

Above is the first half of Charlie's call. Check back with Reality TV World soon for the concluding portion.

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June 08, 2012 ABC Television Network

PRESS RELEASE - ENTERTAINMENT - Bachelorette - JUNE 7th Interview with Charlie Grogan and Sean Lowe

TRANSCRIPT FROM THE JUNE 7THt "THE BACHELORETTE" TELECONFERENCE WITH BACHELOR SEAN LOWE
AND ELIMINATED BACHELOR CHARLIE GROGAN

Cathy Rehl: Welcome, everybody. Thank you for being here today. We're doing something a little unusual for us. We will have Charlie Grogan, that's G-R-O-G-A-N as in Nancy, on the phone with us first, who unfortunately was eliminated this past week. But we are - we will also have after him, Sean, who is - Sean Lowe, that's L-O-W-E - who is still on the show, but we thought would be able to preview some of the drama in Monday's episode, as well as give you a little preview of his own one-on-one date in London with Emily.

So, without any further ado, we will start our questions. Again, one question and a follow-up, please. We can begin now.

Operator: And ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypads. Your first question comes from Gina Scarpa, from RealityWanted.com.

Gina Scarpa: Hey, Charlie.

Charlie Grogan: Hey, Gina, how are you doing?

Gina Scarpa: I'm good, how are you?

Charlie Grogan: I'm doing great, thank you.

Gina Scarpa: So, my question for you is that when watching the show, it seems really obvious who Emily has gotten close to over the weeks. She didn't get to spend a lot of time with you, John, Michael, Alejandro, so many people. So I was wondering if you felt that way when you were there, and if that put a lot of pressure on you.

Charlie Grogan: You know what, not really, because I did spend some time with her on the group dates, and obviously they can't show everything that they record, but I did, I had my fair share of time with her, it was just, you know, those guys really pick and choose what they want to show, because obviously the time limit of each episode, but I mean, it's - I mean again, to answer your question, I felt like I spent enough time on the group dates to where I should maybe kind of still be hanging around, but I never really did have that opportunity to have that one-on-one intimate time with her, so maybe that was my downfall with getting eliminated.

Gina Scarpa: And then looking at your elimination this week, do you understand why she sent you home, and do you think that she was a good match for you?

Charlie Grogan: You know, it's hard to tell because I really don't know what was going through her mind. I know that she maybe had some favorites going into that evening. So again, that's a hard question. That's something that maybe she could probably answer for you.

But yes, I don't know. I felt comfortable going into that evening, because it's just the time that I did spend with her, and the conversations we did have. So yes, it was a shocker to me, getting sent home, because some of the guys that were left, I didn't feel were as suitable for her, than maybe I could have been. So it was a shock for me, absolutely.

Gina Scarpa: Well, thank you so much.

Charlie Grogan: Well, thank you.

Operator: Your next question comes from Jennifer Matarese from WABC-TV.

Jennifer Matarese: Hi, Charlie.

Charlie Grogan: Hi, Jennifer.

Jennifer Matarese: So I was wondering, you seemed really upset after you guys lost the boat competition, and what was going through your mind at that point, and do you think you like were over-reacting, or do you think, you know, maybe that was appropriate, because you did end up getting sent home?

Charlie Grogan: No, you know, I think all of us guys, me, Sean, Travis and Chris, I think we were all upset because we all have this competitive side to us. I played sports my whole life, and I had never really cried during a loss, you know, growing up, so I think I was more disappointed with myself, because I knew on paper we had the guys beat. And it was just kind of like a testosterone male thing. You know, I really don't remember being that upset on the ride home. I know it was late at night, and it was like a 45-minute drive back to the hotel. I know I was upset, but I just don't know if I can say I was that upset.

Jennifer Matarese: OK.

Charlie Grogan: If that makes any sense.

Jennifer Matarese: And I was wondering what your thoughts on, two of the more kind of like controversial guys, Kalon and Ryan, what your thoughts are about the two of them.

Charlie Grogan: Say that again, I'm sorry?

Jennifer Matarese: Oh, I was wondering what your thoughts are about Kalon and Ryan, because they're kind of seen as more controversial choices for Emily.

Charlie Grogan: Yes, it's - I mean, I get along with Ryan a lot off camera. We kind of you know, had some conversations back and forth that made me feel that he was a good guy. Again, I wasn't there when - you know, other things were happening, I just never was the guy to get involved with all the controversies in the house, because it was starting - a lot of things were starting to brew, because a lot of the guys were starting to have feelings for her. I just stayed out of it. You know, I was there for the experience, and you know, for the journey.

Kalon, I never really - I never really got along with him as much as the other guys. He just - he was very standoffish, he never really - wouldn't hang out with a lot of the guys off camera, and we were playing, you know, games or conversations, he never really was the guy to come get involved. I don't know if he just didn't feel that he fit in with us, but I can definitely tell that he has had a lot more going on than we all knew. So I'm learning a lot more about him, watching the show myself, than I did before. So your guess is as good as mine.

Jennifer Matarese: OK, thank you so much.

Charlie Grogan: No, thank you, Jennifer.

Operator: Your next question comes from Beth Kwiatkowski, from Reality TV World.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Hi, Charlie, how are you?

Charlie Grogan: Great, how are you?

Beth Kwiatkowski: Good, good. So, do you think if your team had won the sailboat race, and you got to spend that extra time with Emily at night, that maybe you would have gotten a rose and stuck around longer? Like in other words, do you think that race kind of sealed your fate?

Charlie Grogan: I'm not really sure, but I think I probably could have talked to her more about more personal things, because every time we did have conversations, you know, it was never like a time or place to really get into those things. I mean, I didn't really know a lot about her background, her story. I mean obviously I can go on line now and read about it. But going into "The Bachelorette," I didn't really know too much about her story, because I wanted to learn it from her.

And I think that the Bermuda surroundings and atmosphere would have been a more intimate environment for me to kind of pick her brain a little bit more, and maybe the same for her. She could have picked my brain a little bit more, and learned a little bit more about my story and what I've gone through. And I think that definitely would have carried me on into, you know, the next, I guess, round.

But yes, I mean, it is what it is. And again, I never really had that one-on-one intimate type of opportunity to really share, you know, those kinds of stories. It was always more group dates or a lounge or you know, maybe a bar, and again there's a time and place to share those kinds of feelings, and I just didn't really feel that those were it. And I was just hoping that maybe I would eventually get that opportunity to kind of get that time, but I never did. And, you know, it's all right.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Sure, absolutely. And during "The Muppet Show" group date, you told Emily you were uncomfortable doing comedy in front of everyone, because you had been undergoing speech therapy and everything following your accident.

Charlie Grogan: Right.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Do you mind elaborating on that a little more, like how long had you been working on your speech prior to that moment, and how much further did you feel like you had to go before you could feel comfortable speaking in front of an audience?

Charlie Grogan: Well, it's a good question. To this day, I still go to speech therapy. There's still a lot of things that I have to work on. There's a lot of words that I can't still pronounce. If there's anything more than three or four syllables in it, I have a hard time pronouncing it, I have to like kind of sound it out. So that was difficult.

And then what made me decide to go and approach her was the fact that me and Wolf were kind of rehearsing what we'd written down so far, and I was having a hard time really pronouncing, I guess, the punch lines, when it came to the joke. And you know, it was stressing me out, because I don't want to be the guy to ruin like such an important event for Emily and Ricki and for the show, so I didn't want to be that guy to go on stage and kind of bite my tongue, and the audience is kind of like, who is this guy and what's wrong with him, you know?

Because they don't know my story. I mean, everyone that's been around since my accident has known what happened to me and what I've gone through, so we kind of laugh about it, if I maybe fumble on a word, or I can't really pronounce something. It's kind of funny to us now, because I've learned to laugh about it.

But I just wasn't ready because again, it happened a year and a half ago, and to be thrown in front of a 500-people audience, plus the millions on, you know, national television, to be my first time to actually talk around a lot of people without - if messing up, not being like made a fool of - I think that was my insecurity the most, more than anything else.

And then also, I got called on stage for the Miss Piggy thing, and geez.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Yes.

Charlie Grogan: I pulled it off, but I - whew, that was a little tough.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Tough, huh? All right, well thank you very much, Charlie.

Charlie Grogan: Thank you.

Operator: Your next question comes from Paige Feigenbaum, from Entertainment Tonight.

Paige Feigenbaum: Good morning, Charlie.

Charlie Grogan: Hi, Paige.

Paige Feigenbaum: You know, you mentioned that you believe there were some men in the cast that deserved to go home instead of you. Can you give us some names?

Charlie Grogan: I really can't. I mean, again, I was the guy on the show that never really named names. I mean, I think when the Men Tell-All episode comes out, then you know, I'll be a little bit more adamant, to you know, kind of point fingers and say, "dude, come on, you know, you're a jackass." But you know, again, I just - I don't want to name names, I don't want to get - stir the pot.

But I think we can all have in mind who we like and who we don't like, and who we kind of find fake and who we don't find fake, and just times that by 100 when the camera's off, and you know, that's my answer. So again, I'm not going to be the guy to name names, because I never was like that to begin with, so -

Paige Feigenbaum: And you also said that you had some moments with Emily that didn't make the broadcast. Can you share one special moment that you had with her that we didn't get to see?

Charlie Grogan: Geez, well, I mean I kind of sat down and talked to her, even that night that I got eliminated, I sat down and talked with her, and I, you know, I mentioned to her that I appreciated this opportunity, and you know, I'm definitely in this for, you know, the long haul. You know, I'm a little scared, because you know, I miss home, you know, I miss my family; I miss my friends.

I mean, basically I packed up and left everything I had behind for, you know, this journey. So I'll be here for as long as she will allow me to be here, because eventually I'd like to, you know, form a friendship with her, and then hopefully that friendship could maybe turn into something else, and you know, kind of see what happens.

I was never the kind of guy who could just fall in love at first sight. I never have. I'm sure a lot of these guys on the show now are feeling that way. You know, again I can't get in their minds, but in my mind, it wasn't like love at first sight. It was like "wow, OK, she's attractive. OK, let me get to know her personality. OK, wow, she's cool. OK, now let me see if we can form as like friends, we can joke around and we can do this and that, great, perfect, wow," then this is, you know, let's see if a relationship can form out of this.

So I mean I was - I was kind of going in baby steps, obviously with how fast everything goes with the show, I may need to kind of skip a couple steps, but you know, it's - I live and learn. I've never seen the show before, so I kind of went into it with no expectations. I kind of went in with my head high and just a big smile, and I was going to enjoy the ride and see where it takes me, and would I go back and do it again? A hundred times, yes, absolutely. Would I do it differently? Probably.

Operator: Your next question comes from Catriona Wightman from "Digital Spy."

Catriona Wightman: Hi, Charlie, it's great to speak with you today.

Charlie Grogan: Hi, Catriona, I like your accent.

Catriona Wightman: Thank you. You just said, then, that you are not one to (inaudible) and that kind of thing, but at the end of the show, when Emily sent you home, you were quite upset. Can you talk through how you were feeling at that moment?

Charlie Grogan: Yes, I was upset for - I think I was more proud of myself, upset I'm going home, because of how much fun - of a journey it was, and I wanted to experience what else it had to offer. You know, I was - I was missing home, I was very proud of myself because you guys never knew what I went through from the day of my accident to where I am today, it's just an absolute miracle.

And I think it was just kind of myself kind of patting myself on the back, just like, you made it this far, like all within a year-and-a-half. I mean, you were basically in a hospital bed, dying, having to re-learn how to do things over again, but now, you know, you're in Bermuda and you're on a TV show, and you met all these great people, and it's like, I mean, who does this ever happen to?

So I just had a lot of emotions running through my body at one time, and to be honest, I was upset that I got sent home. Because again, I think I was a lot better of a person than a lot of those guys in the house, and it was upsetting, because I wanted to continue on with the journey, I wanted to see where it was going to lead me. Yes, it was - it was a bunch of different emotions all built up in one.

Catriona Wightman: OK, well that makes sense. So, if you could go back and do it again, is there anything that you would do differently? Would you maybe have sort of met with - spoken about more personal things earlier, in the bar or whatever?

Charlie Grogan: Yes, I think I would have maybe have laid it on a little bit more thicker. I wouldn't have been as, you know, as like, hey, let's be friends, kind of like pull your pigtails in the schoolyard, like run around like kind of, you know, like pulling laughs and jokes, but I would have taken it a little more serious, in regards to just wanting to open up more. I mean, I was - I think I was starting to open up towards me leaving, and I just, I would have done that maybe from the beginning.

I was more just trying to be myself and - let her know who I am as a person, but then I didn't realize like how much limited time we had to spend with her. So that was again, that was all new to me, and that was something I would do over. I would just kind of - the time I did spend, I would make sure it would be more effective than just, you know, (inaudible) and giggles and poking and laughing, and just, you know, trying to be friendly - like a friendly flirt.

Catriona Wightman: Absolutely. Thank you so much.

Charlie Grogan: Thank you.

Operator: Your next question comes from Lauren Wang from KITV.

Lauren Wang: Hi, Charlie, how are you?

Charlie Grogan: Hi, I'm good.

Lauren Wang: Good. So, what was the best part of being on the show?

Charlie Grogan: Gosh, it's - I think the experience and learning a lot about myself. I mean, I really learned so much about myself. I'm a lot different person now, I learned how to like express my feelings more, because I mean, every day, all the time, it's like how do you feel, what do you feel about this, how do you feel about that, what do you feel about this, how do you feel about this? And I never did that before. I never talked about my feelings to anybody. So it was very therapeutic for me.

Obviously, the Muppet date was a huge one for me, because that was a demon that I've been trying to overcome for years and years and years, and then finally with, you know, my speech impediment and then being thrown out there, and I finally did it, and it was like a huge lift off my shoulders, and I felt like I could do anything. I just felt rebirth, because I climbed that hill that I never thought I could ever climb. And for me to do it on such a grand stage that I did, I mean, I feel like, you know, I could do anything.

Lauren Wang: Good for you.

Charlie Grogan: I would definitely say it was my experience, and then you know, the people I've met. I mean, talking to you guys today, and the producers of the show, and just everybody that got in on the - on the show as well, the guys at the house. I mean, you know, I've met - I've made two great friends out of it, and you know, I'm just excited because of the benefits now, I'm heavily involved with the children's hospital, I'm getting requests all the time to go visit kids at the children's hospital, and I love it. It's amazing.

Lauren Wang: Well speaking of, who were the two great guys that you were closest to?

Charlie Grogan: I was - I was good buddies with Travis. We actually - he was the first guy I met in the hotel, getting into the limo, and he's from Mississippi, so he just reminded me of all of my buddies back home in Tennessee, and we just hit it off. I mean, he just has this outgoing, you know, fun-loving personality such as myself, and we just never had an awkward moment. And it was just great.

And then I would say Wolf. Wolf was the other guy, me and him, I mean I had like a really good man cry one night. I mean, I was like really just like, do I want to be here, you know, because I gave up a lot, you know, to come here, to come to this show. And you know - but the great thing about it is, I came back with so much more than I left with, so - but I mean, me and him, you know, we had like a really good guy-to-guy talk, and we just found out that, you know, we're kind of "brothers from like another mother," and we just - we just - it was like an alliance.

I mean - plus, I mean those two guys never really got involved with all the petty b.s. and all the drama and, you know, all that was about to unfold, and I was over it. Like I'm not - I'm not, you know, about this.

Lauren Wang: OK, thank you so much.

Charlie Grogan: Well, thank you.

Operator: Your next question comes from Caley Skinner from TV Guide Canada. Ms. Skinner, your line is open. You may proceed with your question. That question has been withdrawn. Your next question is a follow-up from Beth Kwiatkowski.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Hi, Charlie.

Charlie Grogan: Beth, hi.

Beth Kwiatkowski: So during Monday night's episode, there was a lot of discussion amongst the bachelors about age. Like Chris, who's 25, apparently thought Doug, who is 33, was a little condescending towards him, as Doug was saying maybe Chris wasn't mature enough to date Emily and take on a daughter and things like that.

Charlie Grogan: Right.

Beth Kwiatkowski: So with you being 32 and all, what are your thoughts on the argument? Would you - you know, would you agree with Doug? Chris? Were you aware of the conflict while you were on the show?

Charlie Grogan: Yes, I was - I was actually there in the room when they were having that conversation at the hotel, and it could kind of go either way. Because I was on Doug's side with regards to that you have more experience by age, but then at the same time, I agree with Chris, because, he's right. I mean, he's very mature at his age. I know at 25 I was nowhere near close to his maturity level.

Again, I don't know him outside of just being on sets, which has only been, you know, maybe close to a month, but you know, the argument could go either way. I mean, it all depends on your experience in life and how you take those experiences, is how you mature, no matter if you're 18 or if you're 38. I mean, an 18-year-old can go through a lot more stuff in his time of 18 years than, you know, a 28-year-old can go on his time of being 28.

So, again, it's all about experiences. And I know at 33, I've gone through a lot in life, and I think I'm very mature for my age. But I think I'm a lot more mature than my friends, because I have a lot of friends that are my age, and they haven't experienced anywhere close to what I have. So you know, it can go either way. I mean, I agree with both parties.

Beth Kwiatkowski:: OK. And I know you talked a little bit about which guys in the house you were closest with, but out of the remaining guys, who did you think might be the best man for Emily while you were on the show? Did any of the bachelors really stand out in your mind for any reason?

Charlie Grogan: Yes, I think just knowing them on and off, and just seeing how people act when you know, cameras, lights and action are on, how people act when they're not, I don't - me, I thought from day one, you know, I met - I thought Sean was a great guy.

I mean, he was - I don't know, again I don't know what him and Emily's one-on-one times were like, or what their conversations were like, but you know, from my point of view, I thought Sean was a great guy. If I had to pick one, I mean that would be the one. But I've got, you know, a lot in mind. I mean, Travis is a great guy, Wolf's a great guy. You know, I can't really be -

Beth Kwiatkowski:OK, all right, no problem.

Charlie Grogan: I can't find the word, but yes, I mean if I was to pick one when I left, I think Sean was a pretty good - a pretty good dude.

Beth Kwiatkowski: OK, great. And when we talked to Tony last week, he said he thought there were some guys in the house who claimed they were ready to step into a father role, but probably weren't in real life. So would you agree or disagree with Tony, and if you agree, who do you think wasn't ready to be a dad?

Charlie Grogan: I get the feeling that there were a lot of guys there for just - for other things, opportunities that maybe can come out of just being on a TV show. You know, like for myself, I don't - I don't act, I don't sing, I don't dance, you know, I don't model. So you know, I was going on there for just the experience alone. You know, so when I'm 60, I can just you know, talk to my kids like, your grandpa or your dad was on a TV show. It was great. The experience was wonderful.

But I think there was a lot of guys that were on the show for other intentions. Again, I'm not that guy to name names. Again, if the tell-all episode ever got filmed and aired, I might be sort of a little bit more in a position to maybe call them out, but you know right now, I think it's still too early, and I don't want to, you know, name names or throw anybody under the bus, because who knows, you know, it might - their minds might have changed.

I mean, again, I wasn't there for the remainder of the taping. It might have changed their life, and they might have had a different outlook on, you know, everything because of maybe, you know, their passion for her and, you know, the experience in life. So I don't know, I'm sorry, I wish I could answer that question, but I can't.

Beth Kwiatkowski: No, that's perfect. And besides you, Michael and Nate also didn't receive roses during Monday night's episode. Do you have any insight as to why Emily let them go, and what do you think of those two guys? Like, what were your impressions of them?

Charlie Grogan: You know what, I don't really - Nate was - Nate was one of my roommates in the house. He was great, fun-loving - again, he was 25. I mean, Nate being 25 and Chris being 25, again, the maturity level - I mean, you can tell Chris was a little bit more mature than Nate. I mean, not to say that Nate was immature, but just, you can tell by talking with Chris, and hanging out with Chris, you never would have guessed he was 25.

But with Nate, you could - oh, yes, you know, still a little wet, you know, behind the ears. And you know, Nate was great. He was awesome. But I don't know why - that's why Emily maybe sent him home, because she maybe saw that, you know, that kind of like not quite so, you know, the maturity level she's looking for. Granted, she's only 26, but she has a kid, she's gone through a lot. You know, her maturity level is going to be a lot higher.

Mike, great dude, quiet. I'm not really sure he really had a lot of time to spend with her, so that may be his downfall. But I became pretty close with Mike in the house, and you know, he's a great dude. I mean, I don't know why she would send him home. I don't know why she would send me home, but that's hers.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Gotcha. And my last question for you, Charlie, is what were your overall impressions of Emily while you were on the show? Like, did she turn out to be everything you had anticipated, did anything disappoint you at all?

Charlie Grogan: You know, again, it's like - it's so hard to tell, because of the cameras and life and all the people sitting around. I mean, your comfort - your comfort zone just isn't really there. Because I met her way before the show. I met her years and years and years ago, here in Nashville, with mutual friends. We have mutual friends who live here. And you know, I would have to say that she acted a lot different then than she did, obviously, on the show. You know, she has to have this persona that she has to keep.

I don't know. I mean, at some times I felt, again, maybe there just wasn't a spark between us, but sometimes it just - it felt like the conversations just weren't really flowing. I mean, they were flowing on my end, but on hers, it was kind of just like I was just like talking to the wall. And I don't know, again just maybe it was just - I don't know. I mean, I can't - I can't answer that. I mean, I feel comfortable talking to her.

Now, if she felt comfortable talking to me, I really can't answer that. I mean, at the end, every conversation we've had was great. It ended, you know, perfectly. Again, I don't think I really got too much into the intimate side of me or the true personal side of me, and that could have been my downfall, because I waited until the last minute to start bringing that out. So I have no idea.

Beth Kwiatkowski: OK, and you made a comment that you actually met Emily before going on the show. Do you mind elaborating on that a little bit, like did she remember you once she saw you on The Bachelorette, and I guess you know, how were you cast on the show? Did that go into your decision to apply?

Charlie Grogan: No, actually, I got - I got casted by a girlfriend of mine that I went to college with, on line. Actually, when ABC called me, I thought it was a prank call. I thought it was a bill collector, so I didn't answer for like two or three days, and I finally picked it up and I was like "who is this and what do you want?" But yes - no, she remembered me.

I mean, she said the moment I stepped out of the limo, she looked at me and she was like, "damn, I think I know this guy." And that was kind of a really cute conversation we had together, because she didn't know how she remembered me, but she knows she's seen me before, and, you know, this and that, and I was like yes, you know, I've met you at, you know, through mutual friends, at a birthday party, and you know, we had a good time. And she knew my face and she remembered me, but she just didn't really know how and when.

So yes, again, that was like really a cute conversation that we had together, that was never shown, but it's understandable because obviously, you know, you have to put so much into an episode.

Beth Kwiatkowski: Sure.

Charlie Grogan: She definitely remembered me.

Beth Kwiatkowski: OK, awesome. Thank you very much, Charlie.

Charlie Grogan: Yes, ma'am.

Operator: And I show no further questions at this time.

Cathy Rehl: Thank you, everybody, don't go anywhere. Charlie, thank you for your time today, and -

Charlie Grogan: My pleasure, guys. Thank you so much. I appreciate it, thank you.

Cathy Rehl: And, have a nice day, and we'll talk to you later.

Charlie Grogan: Yes, ma'am. Bye bye.

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